Canada bans 1,500 types of assault firearms YES!

Foolish

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-gun-control-measures-ban-1.5552131

After last weeks mass shooting in Nova Scotia, Trudeau has lived up to his promise (and one of the key reasons why I voted for him) and banned assault rifles.  Starting immediately, gun owners will no longer be allowed to sell, transport, import or use these sorts of weapons in this country.  There is a 2 year amnesty period where the government will buy them from owners.  Of course the biggest challenge will be stopping Usanians from bringing them into the country.  I can see that along with checking your temperature for Covid 19, they will also swab your hands for gun powder. 

Interesting that this was passed by the Cabinet alone, without even going to parliament. (Although the budget for the buyback must pass parliament.)   And this happened just the day after gun wielding men stormed the state government in Michigan.  What a difference a border makes!

 

Foolish

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What type of gun did the shooter in NS use?  I asked that question a while ago and no one ever responded that I'm aware of.  
"The RCMP has confirmed that the Nova Scotia shooter used firearms obtained illegally in Canada and from U.S. sources to carry out his crimes. He was not licensed to own firearms.

Eyewitnesses have said he used a number of weapons during his attacks, including some sort of a long-barrelled rifle and a handgun. The RCMP has described at least one of his firearms as an "assault-style" weapon."

"The ban includes guns that have been used in past Canadian shootings, such as the Ruger Mini-14 which was used in the Ecole Polytechnique massacre in Montreal in 1989, the M14 semi-automatic which was used in the 2014 Moncton shooting, the Beretta CX4 Storm which was used in the Dawson College shooting and the CSA-VZ-58 which the gunman attempted to use in the Quebec Mosque shooting. "

I read somewhere this morning that his rifle is among the list of 1500 banned rifles.

 
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Foolish

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If it was so critical, why did he wait until now?
They were ready for it in early March, but something else got in the way. And you have to admit that it will be pretty tough for the right wing opposition to argue against it, just a week after Nova Scotia.  Timing is everything in politics.

 
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They were ready for it in early March, but something else got in the way. And you have to admit that it will be pretty tough for the right wing opposition to argue against it, just a week after Nova Scotia.  Timing is everything in politics.
Its too bad that rather than severely cracking down and going to a tight licensing registration system, they are going whole hog.

This should be a shot across the bow for the US.

 

Foolish

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Its too bad that rather than severely cracking down and going to a tight licensing registration system, they are going whole hog.
What we are trying to do is create a public mindset that these things are just unacceptable, completely.  I think that the mindset is just as important as the actual legislation. 

 

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"The RCMP has confirmed that the Nova Scotia shooter used firearms obtained illegally in Canada and from U.S. sources to carry out his crimes. He was not licensed to own firearms.

Eyewitnesses have said he used a number of weapons during his attacks, including some sort of a long-barrelled rifle and a handgun. The RCMP has described at least one of his firearms as an "assault-style" weapon."

"The ban includes guns that have been used in past Canadian shootings, such as the Ruger Mini-14 which was used in the Ecole Polytechnique massacre in Montreal in 1989, the M14 semi-automatic which was used in the 2014 Moncton shooting, the Beretta CX4 Storm which was used in the Dawson College shooting and the CSA-VZ-58 which the gunman attempted to use in the Quebec Mosque shooting. "

I read somewhere this morning that his rifle is among the list of 1500 banned rifles.
The article claims he "illegally" obtained the firearms. How much more "illegal" does it have to be? YCMTSU

 

Foolish

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From the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights website.  I'm so glad that we have no right to bear arms in Canada:

"In a historic, sweeping ban, Justin Trudeau and Bill Blair have decimated the firearms industry in Canada. A segment that contributed over $8B to the GDP, employs over 40, 000 Canadians in 4500 small businesses across the country.

A staggering 1500 models and variants of rifles were wiped off the market today, with plans to confiscate them from legal owners who have done nothing to warrant such a far-reaching attack. This will impact hundreds of thousands of Canadians who have followed every rule and regulation asked of them, and committed no crime. Legal owners have a two year amnesty to decide if they will forfeit their property for compensation or deactivate them in order to keep them.

The list can be found on the government of Canada’s site: Canada Gazette

Trudeau and Blair used the horrific tragedy in Nova Scotia, a crime committed by an unlicensed criminal with illicit firearms, to prop up his failed policy.

They also circumvented democracy by using an OIC rather than legislation that would have required a debate, study of the issue and votes by parliamentarians.

The CCFR’s Rod Giltaca & Tracey Wilson will be attending a technical briefing today on request by the Minister of Public Safety.

Stay tuned for our course of action in the coming days."

I have to admit that I'm very suspicious with their statement that the segment employs over 40,000 Canadians. 

 
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Bugsy

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I spent some time earlier this year in the US (there is a thread about it).  

For the Americans reading this thread, a helpful piece of advice is to stop thinking of Canadians as the same as Americans who just happen to live a bit farther north.  You are better to think that Canada has its own history and culture as different from the US as, say, Sweden, Denmark or Switzerland. 

With that in mind, Canadians are *horrified* at mass shootings.  We will take bold steps to prevent them.  We look in shock and confusion at the US and will do what we can to not have that level of gun violence.  So from that perspective, the recent move by our Prime Minister is probably pretty consistent with what most people want and will generally receive broad acceptance.  

 

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I spent some time earlier this year in the US (there is a thread about it).  

For the Americans reading this thread, a helpful piece of advice is to stop thinking of Canadians as the same as Americans who just happen to live a bit farther north.  You are better to think that Canada has its own history and culture as different from the US as, say, Sweden, Denmark or Switzerland. 

With that in mind, Canadians are *horrified* at mass shootings.  We will take bold steps to prevent them.  We look in shock and confusion at the US and will do what we can to not have that level of gun violence.  So from that perspective, the recent move by our Prime Minister is probably pretty consistent with what most people want and will generally receive broad acceptance.  
Fucking-A. Or fucking-eh, whichever.

 

bpm57

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They were ready for it in early March, but something else got in the way.
So much for public safety. But it isn't about public safety, it is just about control.

And you have to admit that it will be pretty tough for the right wing opposition to argue against it, just a week after Nova Scotia.  Timing is everything in politics.
What is there to argue against? Your parliament didn't pass anything.

Just a decree from on high.

We will take bold steps to prevent them.
I guess the next one will just result in no private firearm ownership, then? Do the door-to-door searches happen after that?

We already have an existing tight licensing and transportation system for firearms in Canada.
And yet your gov't leadership decided that a person with illegally obtained firearms will now set the rules for the law abiding. Imagine that.

" Firearms capable of discharging a projectile with a muzzle energy greater than 10,000 Joules (e.g. sniper rifles) "

Far to dangerous for your average civilian to own: https://revivaler.com/w-j-jeffery-600-nitro-express-rifle/

Not a "sniper rifle", but I'm sure your #metoo PM knows best.

 
So much for public safety. But it isn't about public safety, it is just about control.

What is there to argue against? Your parliament didn't pass anything.

Just a decree from on high.

I guess the next one will just result in no private firearm ownership, then? Do the door-to-door searches happen after that?

And yet your gov't leadership decided that a person with illegally obtained firearms will now set the rules for the law abiding. Imagine that.

" Firearms capable of discharging a projectile with a muzzle energy greater than 10,000 Joules (e.g. sniper rifles) "

Far to dangerous for your average civilian to own: https://revivaler.com/w-j-jeffery-600-nitro-express-rifle/

Not a "sniper rifle", but I'm sure your #metoo PM knows best.
Canadians don't share your exceptional Americana government paranoia.  

 
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