Canada bans 1,500 types of assault firearms YES!

[Liquid]

What an odd question!

The article references firearms "affected by the May 1, 2020, Order in Council (OIC)."

The list was posted back on page 1:

Since I view such lists as shopping lists, I was interested and looked at the guns to be taken.

Just as in civilized countries like Australia, just as in the US Congress, just as in New Jersey, battlefield .22's are "assault weapons" in Canada.

If you're going to try to argue they should not be, you're on your own. I tried and lost.

Ruger is a king of the 22. Only Rugers on the list are 556, same for S&W...

How many on the list are actual .22LR calibers???

 

[Zonker]

You seem like a reader who may have actually done this, so why the casual acceptance of Ishmael's lie about me?

I can't be bothered to follow the back and forth. I was commenting on some perfume, not guns. 

 

[Ishmael]

I had a female friend who wore that. It was well named.

It was extremely well named. After I got a waft of it on a female customer, I asked her what she was wearing, taking pains to explain I wanted to buy it for my wife. My wife got a bottle of it on the next occasion. It's been over a decade, and it's still my favourite.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Ruger is a king of the 22. Only Rugers on the list are 556, same for S&W...

How many on the list are actual .22LR calibers???

Common sense gun control is sometimes difficult to comprehend. For example, my wife's gun is a Ruger battlefield .22, slated to be banned in both the US Congress and in the FL legislature, but you can just buy one in Canada. So they're not battlefield .22's above a certain latitude or something.

If you read the thread, I discussed several of the .22 items on the Canadian shopping list. I'm not sure I got them all and don't feel like counting if you don't feel like reading, so... some is the answer to your question.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

I can't be bothered to follow the back and forth. I was commenting on some perfume, not guns. 

Ah, unaware, gotcha.

If you should ever develop a desire to discuss a political subject other than guns with me, despite Ishmael's lies, opportunities to do so can be found here and here and here and here and here and here and here just to start. But don't let a pile of facts get in the way of enjoying lying grabber gossip.

 

[Liquid]

 my wife's gun is a Ruger battlefield .22

Exactly which Ruger 22 does she have? They do not make a 'Ruger Battlefield 22'!

You have made this stupid label you call 'battlefield 22" - it's meaningless but to you!

There is NO such thing!!

FYI: When you make the shape of a gun with your hands, it's not a real gun and doesn't shoot battlefield 22 ammo, what ever the fuck that is.....

 

[Mike in Seattle]

Exactly which Ruger 22 does she have?

It has a terrifyngly scary (aftermarket) folding stock,

, and a pistol grip, 

(, if that's the one I'm remembering)

It shoots the same (dot) twenty two rimfire round as the others.

? Tom, a pic ? 

( with appropriate warnings for the children, of course )

You have made this stupid label you call 'battlefield 22"

NO.

team grabbers, in the legislation, call it that

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Exactly which Ruger 22 does she have? They do not make a 'Ruger Battlefield 22'!

You have made this stupid label you call 'battlefield 22" - it's meaningless but to you!

There is NO such thing!!

FYI: When you make the shape of a gun with your hands, it's not a real gun and doesn't shoot battlefield 22 ammo, what ever the fuck that is.....

It shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Just do as I did and read the assault weapons ban proposals in Congress. She has a 10-22 carbine which had an adjustable stock up until an unfortunate boating accident early last year. I'm not saying whether she replaced the lost stock or not, but hypothetically, if she did, that would be a battlefield .22.

Not sure what's stupid about that label. Assault weapons bans target weapons of war. Just read any press release. So if a .22 is subject to such a ban, it's a weapon of war. Or, battlefield .22.

I admit that I used to go around this forum calling .22's ordinary or "squirrel shooters" but I have been educated as to their military nature and now use a more acceptable term.

 

[Liquid]

blah blah.... .22's ordinary or "squirrel shooters" but I have been educated as to their military nature and now use a more acceptable term.

That's your origin story for Battlefield 22???? A term 'more acceptable' to you and that you have made up!?  It's still udder BS...

What military specs .22LR for killing humans? 

Why isn't the smallest, cheapest and most widely available round used in ALL military?????

Which would you rather be hit with:

A brick at 5 MPH

or

The same brick at 15 MPH

 

[Liquid]

Can you guess which hits* are from a .22LR vs a .223/5.56 (green tip) from the same distance (~100 yards)?

* Some are previously painted over plus different caliber hits closer in.

Hint: 8 from big boy rounds!

The smallest indents are from a .22LR among 9MM and .357 Mag...

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

That's your origin story for Battlefield 22???? A term 'more acceptable' to you and that you have made up!?  It's still udder BS...

Most here were upset when I called them squirrel shooters and have not objected now that I recognize that battlefield .22's are part of the ordinary military equipment.

What military specs .22LR for killing humans? 

I guess you missed this?

I never did understand why you think strawmen are so fun, but I learned something about battlefield .22's today.

On 3/25/2018 at 8:38 AM, badlatitude said:
Did you tell them that the Israeli Army uses them for sniper weapons? 

http://www.ruger1022.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/8.jpg

Operator armed with the Ruger 10/22 Suppressed sniper rifle during the Israeli-Palestinian clashes in the Occupied Territories, October 2000. Note that the sniper has a Sig Sauer handgun tacked in his vest.
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I guess badlat must have forgotten to include his source.

Anyway, I guess the search for an acceptable term for the weapons subject to bans continues. If it's defined as a "weapon of war" in press releases and defended in court because all "assault weapons" are "the like" of an M-16, what do you call such a .22? How do you distinguish it from those .22's that are not to be banned?

 

[Liquid]

Most here were upset when I called them squirrel shooters and have not objected now that I recognize that battlefield .22's are part of the ordinary military equipment.

I guess you missed this?

Anyway, I guess the search for an acceptable term for the weapons subject to bans continues. If it's defined as a "weapon of war" in press releases and defended in court because all "assault weapons" are "the like" of an M-16, what do you call such a .22? How do you distinguish it from those .22's that are not to be banned?

Battlefield .22s are the most prolific and lethal weapons known to man. Shit, you've got a 20 year old picture proving it!

Why anyone warrior/sniper would choose something like a battlefield .308 over a .22 is just crazy talk.... 

Gotta run, I'm going to the range with the kid to shoot battlefield paint balls! This weekend we're going to shoot some sporting clays with our battlefield 12 gauges! Might even do some indoor shooting with our battlefield 9MMs... we may even break out the battlefield .357 Magnum revolver. Probably drive my battlefield Chevy pickup too!

 

[Ishmael]

Battlefield .22s are the most prolific and lethal weapons known to man. Shit, you've got a 20 year old picture proving it!

Why anyone warrior/sniper would choose something like a battlefield .308 over a .22 is just crazy talk.... 

Gotta run, I'm going to the range with the kid to shoot battlefield paint balls! This weekend we're going to shoot some sporting clays with our battlefield 12 gauges! Might even do some indoor shooting with our battlefield 9MMs... we may even break out the battlefield .357 Magnum revolver. Probably drive my battlefield Chevy pickup too!

Don't forget to drink some battlefield beer afterwards.

 

[Ishmael]

That's what I drink on my battlefield C&C!

I can hardly wait to climb on mine.

 

[Liquid]

Don't forget to drink some battlefield beer afterwards.

Maybe also consume some battlefield weed!

 

[Ishmael]

Maybe also consume some battlefield weed!

And top it off with a nice battlefield single malt scotch.

And some battlefield mud.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Battlefield .22s are the most prolific and lethal weapons known to man. Shit, you've got a 20 year old picture proving it!

Why anyone warrior/sniper would choose something like a battlefield .308 over a .22 is just crazy talk.... 

I didn't say they're more lethal than an M-16, I'm just aware of the TeamD party line that they're "the like" of one and should therefore be banned. Not sure what the grabber party in Canada is, but they obviously join Aussie grabbers in feeling the same way, or the answer to your earlier question about how many battlefield .22's they want to confiscate would not have been "some."

I guess you don't want to come up with a different name to distinguish those .22's that are to be taken from those that are OK to own, so I'll just continue to use battlefield .22's the describe the ones subject to bans.

Even if you manage teach me stuff I already know about ballistics, that won't change one simple fact: battlefield .22's are "assault weapons" around the world and there's no way in hell grabbers are going to back off from that, or any other, gun control position. You might not like it or agree, but battlefield .22's are a fact of political life and will continue to be.

 

[Liquid]

And top it off with a nice battlefield single malt scotch.



And some battlefield mud.

Check out those sweet battlefield kilts and battlefield bagpipes!

I didn't say they're more lethal than an M-16, I'm just aware of the TeamD party line that they're "the like" of one and should therefore be banned. Not sure what the grabber party in Canada is, but they obviously join Aussie grabbers in feeling the same way, or the answer to your earlier question about how many battlefield .22's they want to confiscate would not have been "some."

I guess you don't want to come up with a different name to distinguish those .22's that are to be taken from those that are OK to own, so I'll just continue to use battlefield .22's the describe the ones subject to bans.

Even if you manage teach me stuff I already know about ballistics, that won't change one simple fact: battlefield .22's are "assault weapons" around the world and there's no way in hell grabbers are going to back off from that, or any other, gun control position. You might not like it or agree, but battlefield .22's are a fact of political life and will continue to be.

I think you are battlefield confusing the battlefield weapon with real battlefield ammo...

So, I'm going to battlefield fuck off now

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

I think you are battlefield confusing the battlefield weapon with real battlefield ammo...

I didn't write the rules in Canada that classify battlefield .22's as weapons of war.

I didn't write the assault weapons bans in Congress that do the same.

I didn't write the assault weapons ban in the FL legislature that does the same.

If grabbers would stop classifying battlefield .22's as weapons of war, I'd stop talking about it.

They never will, nor will I.

 

[Mike in Seattle]

Gotta run, I'm going to the range with the kid to shoot battlefield paint balls! This weekend we're going to shoot some sporting clays with our battlefield 12 gauges! Might even do some indoor shooting with our battlefield 9MMs... we may even break out the battlefield .357 Magnum revolver.

NO!

You WON"T.

If you had bothered to read the legislation that Tom has posted, (many times)

Your 12 guage is WAR ammo,

Your 9mm is WAR ammo

Your .357 mag is INCREDIBLY DESTRUCTIVE,,

, and the preferred caliber of criminals and insurrectionists.

If you had bothered to read the legislation,,,

Turn your guns in to be melted down into Peace Bricks.

Seattle to melt buyback guns into peace bricks | KBOI (idahonews.com)