Canada bans 1,500 types of assault firearms YES!

[Pertinacious Tom]

Except this clown who seems to worry so much about what other countries do with their gun laws....

I'm just following Keith's example. Polite Canadians are concerned about the fact that we don't yet have a confiscation program for battlefield .22's like you do, so bring up anecdotes.

I figured that was the polite thing to do, so I bring anecdotes here in return.

Maybe if Canadians stopped worrying so much about

if the US ever did better at reducing the numbers of guns in their society

Which is another way to say "enacted a ban/confiscation program like ours," I would stop worrying so much about your wanting to make our laws like yours. I don't think confiscating battlefield .22's from people like me will do anything about any of the anecdotes Keith brings up to advocate gun bans in America, nor do I think your confiscation program, once it finally gets going, will result in any reduction in crimes like the one I posted.

Those crimes are the excuse for gun control, but will not be affected by it. People like me will. I'll stop talking about your gun laws the day after you stop advocating that our grabbers take our battlefield .22's. I eagerly await that day.

 

[basketcase]

I'm just following Keith's example. Polite Canadians are concerned about the fact that we don't yet have a confiscation program for battlefield .22's like you do, so bring up anecdotes.

I figured that was the polite thing to do, so I bring anecdotes here in return.

Maybe if Canadians stopped worrying so much about

Which is another way to say "enacted a ban/confiscation program like ours," I would stop worrying so much about your wanting to make our laws like yours. I don't think confiscating battlefield .22's from people like me will do anything about any of the anecdotes Keith brings up to advocate gun bans in America, nor do I think your confiscation program, once it finally gets going, will result in any reduction in crimes like the one I posted.

Those crimes are the excuse for gun control, but will not be affected by it. People like me will. I'll stop talking about your gun laws the day after you stop advocating that our grabbers take our battlefield .22's. I eagerly await that day.

see.... the problem with that is all of your shit pours over into Canada, not the other way. I dont see fucking hockey fights in the streets of Santa Fe.

 

[Steam Flyer]

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see.... the problem with that is all of your shit pours over into Canada, not the other way. I dont see fucking hockey fights in the streets of Santa Fe.

Tom is worried that the lack of guns, and lack of desire to fondle and brandish them, will spill across the border and start infecting more USAneans.

- DSK

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61192975


"Gun deaths were the leading killer of US children in 2020"



"Guns overtook car crashes to become the leading cause of death for US children and teenagers in 2020, new research shows.



Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows that over 4,300 young Americans died of firearm-related injuries in 2020.



While suicides contributed to the toll, the data shows that homicides form the majority of gun-related deaths.



More than 390 million guns are owned by US civilians.

Yes, and all gun owners are responsible for killing children. That's one way you can tell we're irredeemable enemies to be destroyed.

Thanks for checking in. How's the plan to take battlefield .22's from the Canadian who are responsible for so many deaths in your country going?

 

[Keith]

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/tougher-gun-legislation-thwart-bc-gang-violence


"Tougher gun rules to thwart B.C. gang violence in works, says federal safety minister"


"Marco Mendicino met with VPD chief Adam Palmer to curb ghost-gun and 3D technology in firearm use"

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

So nothing happens until May. Come back and bother us then. 

Reporting as requested. I missed it, but in March it was decided that Canadian battlefield .22 owners have another year and a half to stop being so darn murderous.

Ottawa extends amnesty on 'assault-style' firearms, says taking program still in the works
 

The federal Liberal government is extending its amnesty on "assault-style" firearms until October 2023.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced in May 2020 he was banning more than 1,500 models of firearms, including battlefield .22's.

He also announced owners of these guns would have a two-year amnesty period to come into compliance with the prohibition.

The Liberal government revealed on Wednesday that the order, set to expire in April, would be extended until October 2023.

...

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

You really should put it in your signature.

Another thing to note about TT is his signature. He calls himself "it."

It was just another helpful effort to follow suggestions and fit in.

 

[Blue Crab]

 It was just another helpful effort to follow suggestions and fit in.

Understood. I'd missed the suggestion. How's it working out for ye?

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Understood. I'd missed the suggestion. How's it working out for ye?

About like you'd expect!

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

With collateral damage in our country because of the sea of guns washing over the border. We have skin in this game too.

It's weird that with a couple of years to prepare, you had to delay confiscating battlefield .22's from those Canadians who are responsible for mass shootings until October.

Shouldn't that be just a big more urgent? I mean, these people don't mind mass killing and they have military weapons and you guys can't do anything about it? Show us the way!

 

[Rain Man]

Discussion on CBC radio this afternoon about what Canada's gun laws should be.  Usual ammosexuals piping up.  One guy whining because he can't get the large mags used in competition the US, and so he quit sport shooting.  Cry me a fucking river.  Mass shootings simply can not take place without large mags.

Completely misses the point. The sport of shooting was invented to sell guns to gullible people looking for a sedentary hobby.  The events were designed to sell large mags.  Are these people really that stupid?

Another guy complaining about the buybacks using taxpayer money.  Duh, way cheaper than paying for the carnage after a mass shooting. 

We need to ban handguns, except for police, and ban mags over a certain number of bullets.  Two would be fine with me.  If you are that shitty a hunter you can't get the job done in two shots you don't deserve the meat.

We also need more money for CBSA to stop the flow of illegal guns coming north across the border.

 

[Ishmael]

[No message]

 

[badlatitude]

It doesn't end there. Good on you Canada.

Canada Aims to Force Owners of 'Military-Style Assault Weapons' to Turn Them In

Source: New York Times

OTTAWA — Most owners of what Canada calls “military-style assault weapons” would be required to turn over their firearms to a government buyback program under legislation introduced on Monday, which would tighten the country’s already stringent control of firearms. The Canadian government also immediately imposed new regulations banning the sale, purchase, importation or transfer of handguns. “As a government, as a society, we have a responsibility to act to prevent more tragedies,” Mr. Trudeau told reporters on Monday. 

The proposed buyback law is the latest in a series of steps Mr. Trudeau has taken to restrict firearms since 22 people were killed in rural Nova Scotia by a gunman in 2020, in the deadliest rampage in the country’s history. The gunman was killed by police. The Canadian legislation comes as another mass shooting in the United States has reignited an often searing debate on gun violence. Last week a gunman used a military-style rifle to kill 19 children and two teachers in the town of Uvalde, Tex. 

Only 10 days earlier, a teenage gunman entranced by a white supremacist ideology opened fire at a supermarket in Buffalo, N.Y., shooting and killing 10 people and injuring three more, almost all of them Black. After 20 children and six adults were massacred in 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, there were widespread calls in the United States for stronger controls on powerful firearms. But in the intervening years almost nothing has happened, with many Republicans aligned with the gun lobby refusing to even allow a vote on any proposed legislation. 

Mr. Trudeau’s program echoes a semiautomatic weapons ban and buyback program launched by New Zealand in 2019, after a lone gunman stormed two mosques, killing 51 people and injuring dozens of others in Christchurch. After a mass shooting in 1996 in which a gunman killed 35 people in the town of Port Arthur, Australia, the government there collected more than 650,000 semiautomatic rifles and many shotguns after they were banned under new legislation. American lawmakers have failed to restore restrictions on military-style semiautomatic weapons that expired in 2004. But Mr. Trudeau’s proposal, which could apply to tens of thousands of firearms, is expected to pass.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/30/world/canada/canada-gun-buyback.html 

Beautiful voices, but a pretty homely group. I hope that is not representative.

 

[Ishmael]

Beautiful voices, but a pretty homely group. I hope that is not representative.

No, most of us are butt-ugly and can't sing.

 

[Tax Man]

It doesn't end there. Good on you Canada.

Canada Aims to Force Owners of 'Military-Style Assault Weapons' to Turn Them In

Source: New York Times

OTTAWA — Most owners of what Canada calls “military-style assault weapons” would be required to turn over their firearms to a government buyback program under legislation introduced on Monday, which would tighten the country’s already stringent control of firearms. The Canadian government also immediately imposed new regulations banning the sale, purchase, importation or transfer of handguns. “As a government, as a society, we have a responsibility to act to prevent more tragedies,” Mr. Trudeau told reporters on Monday. 

The proposed buyback law is the latest in a series of steps Mr. Trudeau has taken to restrict firearms since 22 people were killed in rural Nova Scotia by a gunman in 2020, in the deadliest rampage in the country’s history. The gunman was killed by police. The Canadian legislation comes as another mass shooting in the United States has reignited an often searing debate on gun violence. Last week a gunman used a military-style rifle to kill 19 children and two teachers in the town of Uvalde, Tex. 

Only 10 days earlier, a teenage gunman entranced by a white supremacist ideology opened fire at a supermarket in Buffalo, N.Y., shooting and killing 10 people and injuring three more, almost all of them Black. After 20 children and six adults were massacred in 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, there were widespread calls in the United States for stronger controls on powerful firearms. But in the intervening years almost nothing has happened, with many Republicans aligned with the gun lobby refusing to even allow a vote on any proposed legislation. 

Mr. Trudeau’s program echoes a semiautomatic weapons ban and buyback program launched by New Zealand in 2019, after a lone gunman stormed two mosques, killing 51 people and injuring dozens of others in Christchurch. After a mass shooting in 1996 in which a gunman killed 35 people in the town of Port Arthur, Australia, the government there collected more than 650,000 semiautomatic rifles and many shotguns after they were banned under new legislation. American lawmakers have failed to restore restrictions on military-style semiautomatic weapons that expired in 2004. But Mr. Trudeau’s proposal, which could apply to tens of thousands of firearms, is expected to pass.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/30/world/canada/canada-gun-buyback.html 

Beautiful voices, but a pretty homely group. I hope that is not representative.

They are not banning all semi-automatics like New Zealand did, just the ones that are "military style".  Functionally identical rifles with a wood stock will still be legal.  Imagine if you permitted or banned people just based on how they look?

It looks like he is DOING SOMETHING and none of the law abiding citizens being turned into instant criminals would vote Liberal anyway.  Easy political win.

This will do nothing to stop the drive by shootings, school yard executions and the new sport in town - car jacking that are all done with illegal handguns but solving problems is much harder than pretending to solve them.

 

[Mike in Seattle]

Sheesh, Tax Man,, that sounds exactly like the kinds of things that Burning Man, Tom, myself, and a few others have been saying for YEARS.

Expect some of team Grabbers to attack you.

They are not banning all semi-automatics like New Zealand did, just the ones that are "military style". 

That list will expand . They always do, (to include 10/22) .

Did you notice that Jer Berdan even imported "Crying Woman"  from NZL?

 It would be more accurate if it said "machine gun" four times.

, and one more thing, for all of team Grabbers.

 

[Rain Man]

People seem to forget that the US constitution does not apply in Canada. So, if we decide to ban certain categories of weapons, you can wring your hands all you want but no constitutional right will be abridged.

Love the "freedom trucker" theme on that last post.  Gun ownership does not equal freedom.

 

[Keith]

Never forget, even American drunks are packing firearms.....

Its a dangerous country.

 

[Ishmael]

Sheesh, Tax Man,, that sounds exactly like the kinds of things that Burning Man, Tom, myself, and a few others have been saying for YEARS.

Expect some of team Grabbers to attack you.

That list will expand . They always do, (to include 10/22) .

Did you notice that Jer Berdan even imported "Crying Woman"  from NZL?



 It would be more accurate if it said "machine gun" four times.

, and one more thing, for all of team Grabbers.

You gun nutz are fucked in the head.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

You gun nutz are fucked in the head.

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Mostly suicides and our suicide rate is similar to yours.

Which can only lead one to conclude that the USA has generally better mental health but the firearms drag our suicide rate up to be like yours. Or maybe gun laws don't have a damn thing to do with suicide rates, as the many countries with strict gun laws and high suicide rates show.