Car Carrying Ship on Fire
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floating dutchman
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That's not a helicopter landing place, it's just a helicopter pickup station. Fairly common on ships.
floating dutchman
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Passenger RORO's have a drencher system. big ass sprinkler system divided onto zones and big ass pump to drive them. No power no drencher. Fire in a vehicle deck full of cars and no drencher system and it's time for the lifeboats.
I'd guess that these ships would have a similar system.
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Rotnest Express
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Apart from any heat damage as the ships fire sprinklers are obviously sea water the manufacturers warranty will be be voided on the cars onboard.Any salvageable cars will be sold as parallel imports into other markets by a third party who will buy them from the insurance company(ies).
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If you buy an electric VW, Porsche or Audi, don't keep it in a garage attached to your house.
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Chris in Santa Cruz CA
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I was thinking the basket master had to be salty and holding a suitable blunt object.
Panicking humans are very dangerous!
jerseyguy
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Back in 2019 another car transport ship sunk. This one was carrying 4 Porsche GT2rs modelsbound for Brazil. The car was out of production. Porsche restarted the production to build those 4 cars for the buyers. At $300k apiece I guess you do those things.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/19/porsche-911-gt2-rs-back-in-production-ship-sinks/
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/19/porsche-911-gt2-rs-back-in-production-ship-sinks/
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Jkdubz808
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Do you all want me to chime in here, or do you guys want to keep theorizing?
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Jkdubz808
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Alright I will see if I can shed some light:
Firefighting systems:
The cargo decks on those ships have heat and smoke senors, and a sprinkler system which uses salt water from the ships fire pumps that supply it. The ventilation on those decks are massive, but when a fire breaks out first thing you want to do is cut off the oxygen to the space. Those decks are huge so that won't smother the fire right away obviously, but that also means no more oxygen will be fed to it. Now the fire pumps require power obviously, I am struggling to figure out thus far how a fire on the cargo deck could lead to a full out blackout of the vessel as they are designed to compartmentalize areas of the vessel for such situations in order to keep critical components like the fire pumps running. But as I was not onboard and don't know all the facts commenting about possibilities is useless.
Training:
The IMO has set standards worldwide for firefighting training for the crews. At a minimum the unlicensed crew should all have advanced firefighting training, the officers all are trained as fire team leaders. These standards are certified by both international and flag state standards, and they are not exactly lax. However, that bveing said in an actual emergency people may not follow their training (think Costa Concordia...), which may very well have been the case here. But once again, until the facts are known speculation doesn't get us anywhere.
Firefighting systems:
The cargo decks on those ships have heat and smoke senors, and a sprinkler system which uses salt water from the ships fire pumps that supply it. The ventilation on those decks are massive, but when a fire breaks out first thing you want to do is cut off the oxygen to the space. Those decks are huge so that won't smother the fire right away obviously, but that also means no more oxygen will be fed to it. Now the fire pumps require power obviously, I am struggling to figure out thus far how a fire on the cargo deck could lead to a full out blackout of the vessel as they are designed to compartmentalize areas of the vessel for such situations in order to keep critical components like the fire pumps running. But as I was not onboard and don't know all the facts commenting about possibilities is useless.
Training:
The IMO has set standards worldwide for firefighting training for the crews. At a minimum the unlicensed crew should all have advanced firefighting training, the officers all are trained as fire team leaders. These standards are certified by both international and flag state standards, and they are not exactly lax. However, that bveing said in an actual emergency people may not follow their training (think Costa Concordia...), which may very well have been the case here. But once again, until the facts are known speculation doesn't get us anywhere.
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Steam Flyer
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More like because of guys like you, with the attitude "FUCK YOU I'm doing the least possible that I possibly can and still keep this job, I don't give a fuck if the ship sinks from under me."Because of your attitude....
It's been difficult for me to grasp that so many people who appear to be sailors have this kind of attitude; but it's a great big world. If you all weren't fucking things up for me, I wouldn't care. You can shit in your own bed all you want.
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bmiller
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A car carrying a ship? No wonder it caught on fire.
Marcjsmith
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especial salt water. shocking.
but i'm sure all the cars have some liquid fuel inside the plastic tanks. probably not a full tank, but water and liquid fuel doesn't mix well either...
Works well for me. I told my wife that her Lambo that I ordered for her for her birthday was on onboard. since its likely up in flames, better luck next year for her....
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