Car suggestions?

[U20guy2]

Porsche Cayenne for you guys who need to sit on your testosterone instead of having it inside your body.

A bunch of blond stay at home moms primped out looking like they are going to the prom drive those around here picking up their kids. Nothing appealing about that thing if you get a Porsche buy a real one.

 

[Mojo31]

Porsche Cayenne for you guys who need to sit on your testosterone instead of having it inside your body.

A bunch of blond stay at home moms primped out looking like they are going to the prom drive those around here picking up their kids. Nothing appealing about that thing if you get a Porsche buy a real one.

Take one for a spirited drive. You'll sing a different tune.

 

[Innocent Bystander]

Legacty GT was discontinued they weren't selling enough of them. The 3.6R is however selling pretty well. Not a massive power house but a very nice engine putting down 250hp. Subaru now has Toyota DI technology so in a few years I would not be surprised we see some bigger HP numbers.

I almost pulled the trigger on a Legacy 3.6R last fall to replace a crushed Lexus RX (Hurricane Irene). No factory approved hitch/towing capability kept me from doing it as I need one tow vehicle in the family for up to 3500#. Wher swmbo gives up her lacrosse/swimming/dorm move mini van, it might be the replacement and the RX will stay around as the tow car.

3.6R is a seriously fun sedan while maintaining some suspension compliance for ride comfort. WRX would be more fun but not as user friendly as a daily driver.

A lot of AWD sedans come with run flat tires. Run away from those. I had them on a Sienna AWD and they are terrible.

Up till just a couple of years ago Subaru always rated the Legacy the same as the outback given they are identical in all aspects except the taller suspension set up on the outback. The hitch bar is exactly the same given the frame on both vehicles are identical.

Which case the legacy would be along the same lines as the outback on towing capacity. 2700lbs for the 2.5L engine and 3000lbs for the 3.6 which given my experience towing lots of trailers with both a legacy and now our outback those weights are very optimistic given the car cooling capacity is the limiting factor. From 2010 forward there is actually a little note in the owners manual stating this.

104+ degree outside temps and 5+ mile climbs the CVT max trailer towing weight is 1350lbs - the 3.6 with the 5spd AT is 1500lbs - and the manual transmission 2.5 is 2700lbs.

Your need for a 3500lb towing capacity exceeds anything Subaru has ever built

Oficially, Subaru doesn't recommend towing with the current Leagacy sedan. I asked. Adding an aftermarket (even a "repurposed" Outback hitch leaves you open for denial of any warranty items that could be traced to possible damage from towing.

As I said, Legacy 3.6R is a nice ride, just didn't meet one pass/fail criteria. I'll look at one again when/if my needs change.

 

[Dr Conrad Zimsky]

Thank you everyone. I had mentally written off Ford and Subaru and will take another look. The Bentley may well be inexpensive post-depreciation, but I think it'd make my Audi look cheap to run! The Lexus is just too small (I am almost 6'4").

I am considering the Mitsubishi RVR (Outlander Sport in the Excited States), which gets pretty great fuel economy, but don't really want an SUV (we have a full size Outlander).

 

[Tornado807]

Mini All4 Countryman:

 

[U20guy2]

Thank you everyone. I had mentally written off Ford and Subaru and will take another look. The Bentley may well be inexpensive post-depreciation, but I think it'd make my Audi look cheap to run! The Lexus is just too small (I am almost 6'4").

I am considering the Mitsubishi RVR (Outlander Sport in the Excited States), which gets pretty great fuel economy, but don't really want an SUV (we have a full size Outlander).

Good friend bought the Outback because it was the only car he fit in with a rear facing kids car seat in the back. He is 6ft 3 - the legacy is the same exact interior as the outback with a slight head room reduction in the rear seat over the wagon. Go check it out the interior is large lots of good seating space for tall folks etc.

 

[U20guy2]

Porsche Cayenne for you guys who need to sit on your testosterone instead of having it inside your body.

A bunch of blond stay at home moms primped out looking like they are going to the prom drive those around here picking up their kids. Nothing appealing about that thing if you get a Porsche buy a real one.

Take one for a spirited drive. You'll sing a different tune.

I have the The 911 Turbo 4S was nice! The Cayman was a kick in the pants lots of fun too. The VW Tiguan or TowRAG is not a Porsche sorry.

 

[U20guy2]

Legacty GT was discontinued they weren't selling enough of them. The 3.6R is however selling pretty well. Not a massive power house but a very nice engine putting down 250hp. Subaru now has Toyota DI technology so in a few years I would not be surprised we see some bigger HP numbers.

I almost pulled the trigger on a Legacy 3.6R last fall to replace a crushed Lexus RX (Hurricane Irene). No factory approved hitch/towing capability kept me from doing it as I need one tow vehicle in the family for up to 3500#. Wher swmbo gives up her lacrosse/swimming/dorm move mini van, it might be the replacement and the RX will stay around as the tow car.

3.6R is a seriously fun sedan while maintaining some suspension compliance for ride comfort. WRX would be more fun but not as user friendly as a daily driver.

A lot of AWD sedans come with run flat tires. Run away from those. I had them on a Sienna AWD and they are terrible.

Up till just a couple of years ago Subaru always rated the Legacy the same as the outback given they are identical in all aspects except the taller suspension set up on the outback. The hitch bar is exactly the same given the frame on both vehicles are identical.

Which case the legacy would be along the same lines as the outback on towing capacity. 2700lbs for the 2.5L engine and 3000lbs for the 3.6 which given my experience towing lots of trailers with both a legacy and now our outback those weights are very optimistic given the car cooling capacity is the limiting factor. From 2010 forward there is actually a little note in the owners manual stating this.

104+ degree outside temps and 5+ mile climbs the CVT max trailer towing weight is 1350lbs - the 3.6 with the 5spd AT is 1500lbs - and the manual transmission 2.5 is 2700lbs.

Your need for a 3500lb towing capacity exceeds anything Subaru has ever built

Oficially, Subaru doesn't recommend towing with the current Leagacy sedan. I asked. Adding an aftermarket (even a "repurposed" Outback hitch leaves you open for denial of any warranty items that could be traced to possible damage from towing.

As I said, Legacy 3.6R is a nice ride, just didn't meet one pass/fail criteria. I'll look at one again when/if my needs change.

I got news for you any vehicle even one with a official tow rating can have warranty denied if the dealer suspects towing abuse caused the issue.

 

[Kaptainkriz]

Try looking at the Taurus AWD. I have a new 2 WD that I'm liking quite a bit.

 

[Dpneis]

Legacty GT was discontinued they weren't selling enough of them. The 3.6R is however selling pretty well. Not a massive power house but a very nice engine putting down 250hp. Subaru now has Toyota DI technology so in a few years I would not be surprised we see some bigger HP numbers.

I almost pulled the trigger on a Legacy 3.6R last fall to replace a crushed Lexus RX (Hurricane Irene). No factory approved hitch/towing capability kept me from doing it as I need one tow vehicle in the family for up to 3500#. Wher swmbo gives up her lacrosse/swimming/dorm move mini van, it might be the replacement and the RX will stay around as the tow car.

3.6R is a seriously fun sedan while maintaining some suspension compliance for ride comfort. WRX would be more fun but not as user friendly as a daily driver.

A lot of AWD sedans come with run flat tires. Run away from those. I had them on a Sienna AWD and they are terrible.

Up till just a couple of years ago Subaru always rated the Legacy the same as the outback given they are identical in all aspects except the taller suspension set up on the outback. The hitch bar is exactly the same given the frame on both vehicles are identical.

Which case the legacy would be along the same lines as the outback on towing capacity. 2700lbs for the 2.5L engine and 3000lbs for the 3.6 which given my experience towing lots of trailers with both a legacy and now our outback those weights are very optimistic given the car cooling capacity is the limiting factor. From 2010 forward there is actually a little note in the owners manual stating this.

104+ degree outside temps and 5+ mile climbs the CVT max trailer towing weight is 1350lbs - the 3.6 with the 5spd AT is 1500lbs - and the manual transmission 2.5 is 2700lbs.

Your need for a 3500lb towing capacity exceeds anything Subaru has ever built

Oficially, Subaru doesn't recommend towing with the current Leagacy sedan. I asked. Adding an aftermarket (even a "repurposed" Outback hitch leaves you open for denial of any warranty items that could be traced to possible damage from towing.

As I said, Legacy 3.6R is a nice ride, just didn't meet one pass/fail criteria. I'll look at one again when/if my needs change.

I got news for you any vehicle even one with a official tow rating can have warranty denied if the dealer suspects towing abuse caused the issue.

So long as you instal a hitch specifically for your vehicle they can not deny a claim, just because it is there. Actually it is against the law to do so. How ever if they determine the damage was a DIRECT result of "abuse" yeah, you will pay. Odds are what you would fuck up first wouldn't be covered anyway. The dishonest answer to any question regarding it is, "oh yeah i use it for my bike rack."

Or simply, don't go overboard with it, if the foreign version of your car is rated for 2,000 pounds, don't try to pull 3500 through the mountains without adding at least a transmission cooler and trailer brakes. Just bite the bullet and rent a truck (Home Depot), especially if you are just taking the lead mine to the marina once in the spring and back in the fall. In town for a few hours is way cheaper to occasionally rent than own a commuter vehicle that gets 20 mpg less all year.

The real danger in my mind isn't so much pulling, but emergency stopping. Wheel base vs unbraked weight > car engine/transmission vs weight alone. For the most part the numbers provided in the US are bullshit, especially evident when the Canadian/Euro version is rated for significantly more.

 

[Tornado_ALIVE]

Why not go 4WD, even a dual cab ute. Also have another look at VW.

I just bought a VW Amarok and am very impressed with it. Being a dual cab ute, I have space for 5 in comfort, a tray in the back for moving freight or throwing the dog in the back without the inside of the car getting hairy. Will be putting a canopy on it later. The Rok will fit 5 large adults in comfort with a similar room as a Landcruiser inside. On road, they handle like no other 1 ton ute I have driven and performs more like a road car. Off road, if you want to hit the tracks, they are one of the most capable 4x4 utes on the market. The 2 ltr TDI bi-turbo engine has impressive performance for its size and fuel economy at 132kw and 420nm torque. Peak torque kicks in at 1500rpm, through to 2500rpm. With such a low torque band over such a large range, it pulls very well. Fuel economy @ 30mpg. If you have a chance to check one out I would recommend it.

 

[Shibby]

http://www.landrover.com/gl/en/lr/defender/explore/station-wagon/

 

[Shibby]

 

[bljones]

It's time for a new car. I am almost willing to buy a 2010 Infiniti G367x... AWD is a must, and I want it to be fun to drive.

Since a 2010 Rising Sun Cadillac was on the list, I am assuming that used is okay.Subaru WRX

Slightly wider track over earlier cars for better handling, 265 hp, better front fascia styling than the 2012.

 

[Dr Conrad Zimsky]

It's time for a new car. I am almost willing to buy a 2010 Infiniti G367x... AWD is a must, and I want it to be fun to drive.

Since a 2010 Rising Sun Cadillac was on the list, I am assuming that used is okay.Subaru WRX

Slightly wider track over earlier cars for better handling, 265 hp, better front fascia styling than the 2012.

Great minds! In spite of the 80s Subaru that I hated, I am now looking at a 2010 STI.

 

[seaquesta]

+ 1 for the Subaru Outback. I had a 3.0 flat six for a few years. Great car and the perfect "boat stuff" hauler.

 

[jacquesl]

Rental Infiniti G37 was impressive. Have had several Subies also nice but more affordable.

 

[Point Break]

What's yer budget?

 

[Jayavarman]

Its kind of a soccer mom vehicle but with 270 hp, AWD, 28 mpg, 7 passanger capacy, and decent towing capacity - its very utilitarian: http://www.toyota.com/sem/highlander.html

Its not an off road vehcile, nor is it a chick magnet, but it is very efficient. Used models are available for reasonable prices and Toyota's have better than average longevity.

I have over a 130,000 miles on my Prius and until I get my Tesla S ( or Tesla X) will continue to drive it happily.

-Jaya

 

[Dr Conrad Zimsky]

What's yer budget?

CDN $30ish