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Glenn McCarthy
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Nah, Rosecrayons backstabbed all of his friends.
I don't remember the requirements to be a CSA member, but it had to do with the various regional sailing associations, like your DRYA, and other sailing organizations got representation on it.
Frankly they were all like 70 year plus olds, and at the time I was in my 30's.
I don't remember the requirements to be a CSA member, but it had to do with the various regional sailing associations, like your DRYA, and other sailing organizations got representation on it.
Frankly they were all like 70 year plus olds, and at the time I was in my 30's.
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Glenn McCarthy
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But who was pulling Rosecrayons strings (he wasn't that bright)? There were a number in the background pushing for this, mainly more recent past presidents at the time.
But the real designer of what exists today comes down to one person. Dr. Barney Rubble.
Rosecrayons and Rubble were fellow Thistle sailors from Ohio.
As a Doctor, Barney wrote the design of the new organization to be god like, just like doctors. They can do no harm, they are smarter than the rest, they don't need oversight, they don't make mistakes, you know the types.
So when you see posts about how there's no way to run for election at US Sailing, and people are handpicked from the inside, and all the other examples, just understand it was by design by a Doctor.
BTW, Rubble completely ignored input into the design of the organization. I tried, as well as others, we were completely ignored.
But the real designer of what exists today comes down to one person. Dr. Barney Rubble.
Rosecrayons and Rubble were fellow Thistle sailors from Ohio.
As a Doctor, Barney wrote the design of the new organization to be god like, just like doctors. They can do no harm, they are smarter than the rest, they don't need oversight, they don't make mistakes, you know the types.
So when you see posts about how there's no way to run for election at US Sailing, and people are handpicked from the inside, and all the other examples, just understand it was by design by a Doctor.
BTW, Rubble completely ignored input into the design of the organization. I tried, as well as others, we were completely ignored.
Glenn McCarthy
Super Anarchist
Once the new organization was complete, the volunteers no longer had a vote, realized they were now useless and stopped going to the meetings where they used to hold esteemed voting positions. Like 350-400 sailors from across the U.S. would fly on their own dime twice a year to these meetings to make things happen....for sailors.
There were a couple of Prez's and as Jobco was incoming, I was one of many he interviewed to get thoughts on what needed to be done. I told him that his biggest failure would be to allow Dr. Barney Rubble to become Prez in the future.
Rubble was the next Prez after Jobco.
There were a couple of Prez's and as Jobco was incoming, I was one of many he interviewed to get thoughts on what needed to be done. I told him that his biggest failure would be to allow Dr. Barney Rubble to become Prez in the future.
Rubble was the next Prez after Jobco.
Glenn McCarthy
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The first meeting I attended back when it was for sailors, I went to the Offshore meeting, finding my way around.
This was at the time where Offshore One Designs were coming into vogue. However, they were discussing the Lloyd Phoenix Offshore Trophy (US Sailing's Offshore Championship). I'm not seated at the table, but on a chair on the perimeter of the room. The Phoenix only allowed rated or handicap champions from the U.S. regions to go.
I put up my hand, was acknowledged (really not knowing anyone in the room) and said, "The world is changing, I have been to the Lloyd Phoenix previously, but there are so many Offshore One Design classes, that they too should be allowed to compete in this championship." I sat down.
A few guys pipe up about a Deed of Gift, don't know if this can be done, etc.
Ron Ward from Annapolis Yacht Club speaks up and says, "There is no deed of gift, there is nothing keeping us from making this change right now, I propose we make this change." A quick vote, and it was done.
Ron was a great guy, but this shows how the organization was for sailors.
Now get out there and start practicing your radio control boat skills!
This was at the time where Offshore One Designs were coming into vogue. However, they were discussing the Lloyd Phoenix Offshore Trophy (US Sailing's Offshore Championship). I'm not seated at the table, but on a chair on the perimeter of the room. The Phoenix only allowed rated or handicap champions from the U.S. regions to go.
I put up my hand, was acknowledged (really not knowing anyone in the room) and said, "The world is changing, I have been to the Lloyd Phoenix previously, but there are so many Offshore One Design classes, that they too should be allowed to compete in this championship." I sat down.
A few guys pipe up about a Deed of Gift, don't know if this can be done, etc.
Ron Ward from Annapolis Yacht Club speaks up and says, "There is no deed of gift, there is nothing keeping us from making this change right now, I propose we make this change." A quick vote, and it was done.
Ron was a great guy, but this shows how the organization was for sailors.
Now get out there and start practicing your radio control boat skills!
MR.CLEAN
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A quick review of the latest amended bylaws indicates that this is one fucked up org.
General members have no right to change the bylaws. General members need 250 signatures to add a nomination for directorships. That's a hell of a high bar.
Questions for action:
1) How many votes were cast overall for the directors at the last AGM? Is 250 a reasonable number for this provision?
2) Do the provisions regarding voting and membership rights comply with NY charity law?
3) Do the provisions regarding voting and membership rights comply with the Stevens Act?
4) Do the provisions regarding voting and membership rights comply with USOPC and National Governing Bodies’ Council rules?
4) If the bylaws are defensible under relevant law and NGO regs, who's got a strategy to throw out the board?
5) Can 250 members be pulled together in a voting bloc?
6) Can the members vote by proxy?
7) Is there a bloc of candidates ready to do the multi-year work necessary to take over the board, if possible? Anyone under 70?
General members have no right to change the bylaws. General members need 250 signatures to add a nomination for directorships. That's a hell of a high bar.
Questions for action:
1) How many votes were cast overall for the directors at the last AGM? Is 250 a reasonable number for this provision?
2) Do the provisions regarding voting and membership rights comply with NY charity law?
3) Do the provisions regarding voting and membership rights comply with the Stevens Act?
4) Do the provisions regarding voting and membership rights comply with USOPC and National Governing Bodies’ Council rules?
4) If the bylaws are defensible under relevant law and NGO regs, who's got a strategy to throw out the board?
5) Can 250 members be pulled together in a voting bloc?
6) Can the members vote by proxy?
7) Is there a bloc of candidates ready to do the multi-year work necessary to take over the board, if possible? Anyone under 70?
RobbieB
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That would be a riot as long as someone didn't get killed in the process.
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Pretty impressive administration cost...
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Recent resignations have shaken the U.S. Olympic Sailing Program, and the ripple effect has seen the United States Sailing Foundation, a fundraising entity to support the program, also endure departures. Scuttlebutt editor Craig Leweck checked in with Paul Cayard, former Executive Director of U.S. Olympic Sailing, for his reaction:
What was the status of the US Olympic Sailing Program when you took over two years ago?
There was a $2.8M financial deficit, four coaches, an experienced staff, and no medal contenders.
Your goal when taking over the job was podium performance by Los Angeles 2028. As you got more into the job, how did that position evolve?
I always said the hill to the top would be steep and long. I was undeterred because I believe in our athletes, my staff, and the power of America. I feel that the USA has the talent to podium in five classes in LA 2028. We need to build the support structure to get the athletes and coaches to that level. Project Pinnacle is that strategy. At the same time, we need to continue to cultivate the Pipeline of talent behind them for sustainability. Project Pipeline is that strategy.
The US Olympic and Paralympic Committee requires US Sailing to manage the US Olympic Sailing Program. But unlike other Olympic sports, Sailing is significantly more diverse. How did the USOPC mandate impact your ability to operate?
Running an elite sports team, striving to be the best in the World, under the guidance of a member services organization with a volunteer Board of Directors, is not a recipe for success… for either organization.
When you were hired in March 2021, it was at time in which US Sailing viewed a successful Olympic team as an opportunity to inspire young sailors and motivate boaters to become members. In what ways did US Sailing support this mission?
The first point of the US Sailing Strategic Plan is “High Performance and Olympic Success”. Ironically, the US Sailing Association contributes nothing to its Olympic department. At times, there were large bureaucratic stones thrown into our road. The most recent example was, US Sailing charging its Olympic department an administrative fee of $976K for 2023, up from $555K in 2022. I found it hard to explain this to donors and sponsors who intended to support athletes.
You had previously been a member of the Olympic Sailing Committee. What was the purpose of that entity, and why does it no longer exist?
In past practice, US Sailing delegated its Olympic obligations to a committee, the Olympic Sailing Committee. While the OSC had a greater level of Olympic experience than the Board, it had no executive power. It was a flawed structure.
And now the Olympic program is overseen by the US Sailing Board of Directors. How has that impacted the program?
I was warned not to make my efforts under the US Sailing umbrella. As a proud American sailor and two-time Olympian, I wanted the USA to be unified. For 21 months, we were granted autonomy, and we made significant progress. Unfortunately, just two years into a 7-year project, conflicting agendas impaired the Board’s vision, and the Olympic program has suffered significant damage.
What specific progress did the Olympic program make under your leadership?
Thanks to strong support from our donors, AmericaOne, Quantum Racing, Kilroy, Gill, Harken, Yeti, Seimens, and several other corporate sponsors, we made progress in these key areas:
• Project Pipeline: Increased support of this 2014 strategy helping U19 sailors achieve excellence led by AmericaOne and Quantum Racing. The USA won more than 20 medals at the Youth World Championships in the period from 2016 through 2022 including being top nation in 2017.
• Domestic platform: Created a circuit of six domestic Olympic regattas annually, the most recent of which brought 200 competitors from 30 nations to our waters.
• Repatriating the Olympic Trials. Regaining control of our Olympic selection trials, having a “winner” represent our country, and inspiring the next generation.
• Squad mentality: It’s not about being the best in America, it’s about being the best in the World. When our athletes buy into working together, they will push each other to new heights. Our iQ Squad is the poster child of squad mentality.
• Established a base in Marseille: Being one of nine nations with a base at the Olympic site is very valuable for our athletes.
• Becoming a Team: Olympic sailing has 10 disciplines. However, commonality exists: fitness, nutrition, meteorological knowledge, strategy and tactics, and services like food programs and physical therapy. Becoming one team in the broader sense adds power to each individual. Two all-team camps launched this concept for Team USA.
• Coaching: In 2021, US Sailing paid for full time coaching in four classes. In 2023, all 10 were covered plus increasing coaching for the Olympic Development Program thanks to Quantum Racing. Bringing coaches like Robert Scheidt to the team creates positive change on many fronts.
• An efficient organization: The Olympic Sailing Program rebuilt its operations staff. While increasing the budget by 60%, we also increased operational efficiency coming in under budget each year and creating a positive cash balance of $2.25M at year end 2022.
• Increased Funding: We built a support structure of donors and sponsors who believed in the mission and the vision of how we were going to get there. That vision and leadership garnered $18M in commitments. We also got a large boost ($7.5M) toward our $100M endowment thanks to Treecie and Ding Schoonmaker.
The USOPC requires one third of the US Sailing Board of Directors to be athletes of some distinction. How did this requirement impact the operation of the US Olympic Sailing Program?
Like all new rules, USOPC and each sport’s national governing body are gaining experience with this requirement. I believe the athletes voice must be heard. I also believe this requirement puts a new responsibility on the experienced Board members.
It had been said that concerning issues within the program had been brought forth from the athletes? What were the problems?
Change is difficult. There will always be complaints. Remaining mediocre was not an option for me. Since my departure, the number emails, texts and phone calls I have received from the athletes, expressing appreciation for what we were building, has been heartwarming. It was my honor and privilege to work with them on their journey to excellence.
Can a team leader make everyone happy?
It is hard to please everyone all the time. That said, a good leader leads with commitment, charisma, passion that is infectious and builds a winning culture. I certainly strive to do that in every program I have ever been involved with.
Following your resignation, the US Team’s high performance leadership group also resigned. What should we read into that?
Simply that they did not believe in the reorganization promulgated by the Board. This is the third time in three quads that the volunteer board has stepped in and changed the Olympic team strategy and leadership without any input from the professionals hired to build (and rebuild) the program. Obviously, the Olympic staff felt disrespected by this. Any reasonable person would take that as not being considered of value, and leave. Exemplifying their passion for the athletes, Luther Carpenter and Charlie McKee are traveling to Palma this week to coach their athletes on their own nickel!
The United States Sailing Foundation has also endured resignations following your departure, with Chairman Bill Ruh and Treasurer Johnny Lovell resigning. How is this connected to the changes occurring with the US Olympic Program?
Bill Koch, Tom Whidden, and several others followed as well. Like the Olympic staff resignations, these Foundation resignations are directly related to the changes made by the US Sailing Association Board. Bill Ruh was Chairman of the Foundation and along with myself, primarily responsible for raising $18M. Johnny Lovell is a 4-time Olympian and Silver medalist. He felt we were on the right path. Bill Koch and Tom Whidden need no introduction. We were all about winning!
You remain passionate about raising the standard of the US Olympic Sailing Program, but there are people that contend the obstacles in the country are too great. How do you feel now?
I love the USA and what it stands for. My immigrant father found great opportunity in the USA. At the 1984 Olympics, I marched into the LA Colosseum with Evander Holifield, Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis, Mary Lou Retton, Edwin Moses, and 495 other great American Athletes. The Sailing Team won Gold and Silver in every class. The sport of Sailing has given me so much. I wanted to pay it forward. I will remain the biggest fan of our USA athletes. I know our athletes can get back to the top of the podium. Go USA!
Paul Cayard: Letting the dust settle >> Scuttlebutt Sailing News
Recent resignations have shaken the U.S. Olympic Sailing Program, and the ripple effect has seen the United States Sailing Foundation, a fundraising
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Paul Cayard: Letting the dust settle
Published on March 16th, 2023Recent resignations have shaken the U.S. Olympic Sailing Program, and the ripple effect has seen the United States Sailing Foundation, a fundraising entity to support the program, also endure departures. Scuttlebutt editor Craig Leweck checked in with Paul Cayard, former Executive Director of U.S. Olympic Sailing, for his reaction:
What was the status of the US Olympic Sailing Program when you took over two years ago?
There was a $2.8M financial deficit, four coaches, an experienced staff, and no medal contenders.
Your goal when taking over the job was podium performance by Los Angeles 2028. As you got more into the job, how did that position evolve?
I always said the hill to the top would be steep and long. I was undeterred because I believe in our athletes, my staff, and the power of America. I feel that the USA has the talent to podium in five classes in LA 2028. We need to build the support structure to get the athletes and coaches to that level. Project Pinnacle is that strategy. At the same time, we need to continue to cultivate the Pipeline of talent behind them for sustainability. Project Pipeline is that strategy.
The US Olympic and Paralympic Committee requires US Sailing to manage the US Olympic Sailing Program. But unlike other Olympic sports, Sailing is significantly more diverse. How did the USOPC mandate impact your ability to operate?
Running an elite sports team, striving to be the best in the World, under the guidance of a member services organization with a volunteer Board of Directors, is not a recipe for success… for either organization.
When you were hired in March 2021, it was at time in which US Sailing viewed a successful Olympic team as an opportunity to inspire young sailors and motivate boaters to become members. In what ways did US Sailing support this mission?
The first point of the US Sailing Strategic Plan is “High Performance and Olympic Success”. Ironically, the US Sailing Association contributes nothing to its Olympic department. At times, there were large bureaucratic stones thrown into our road. The most recent example was, US Sailing charging its Olympic department an administrative fee of $976K for 2023, up from $555K in 2022. I found it hard to explain this to donors and sponsors who intended to support athletes.
You had previously been a member of the Olympic Sailing Committee. What was the purpose of that entity, and why does it no longer exist?
In past practice, US Sailing delegated its Olympic obligations to a committee, the Olympic Sailing Committee. While the OSC had a greater level of Olympic experience than the Board, it had no executive power. It was a flawed structure.
And now the Olympic program is overseen by the US Sailing Board of Directors. How has that impacted the program?
I was warned not to make my efforts under the US Sailing umbrella. As a proud American sailor and two-time Olympian, I wanted the USA to be unified. For 21 months, we were granted autonomy, and we made significant progress. Unfortunately, just two years into a 7-year project, conflicting agendas impaired the Board’s vision, and the Olympic program has suffered significant damage.
What specific progress did the Olympic program make under your leadership?
Thanks to strong support from our donors, AmericaOne, Quantum Racing, Kilroy, Gill, Harken, Yeti, Seimens, and several other corporate sponsors, we made progress in these key areas:
• Project Pipeline: Increased support of this 2014 strategy helping U19 sailors achieve excellence led by AmericaOne and Quantum Racing. The USA won more than 20 medals at the Youth World Championships in the period from 2016 through 2022 including being top nation in 2017.
• Domestic platform: Created a circuit of six domestic Olympic regattas annually, the most recent of which brought 200 competitors from 30 nations to our waters.
• Repatriating the Olympic Trials. Regaining control of our Olympic selection trials, having a “winner” represent our country, and inspiring the next generation.
• Squad mentality: It’s not about being the best in America, it’s about being the best in the World. When our athletes buy into working together, they will push each other to new heights. Our iQ Squad is the poster child of squad mentality.
• Established a base in Marseille: Being one of nine nations with a base at the Olympic site is very valuable for our athletes.
• Becoming a Team: Olympic sailing has 10 disciplines. However, commonality exists: fitness, nutrition, meteorological knowledge, strategy and tactics, and services like food programs and physical therapy. Becoming one team in the broader sense adds power to each individual. Two all-team camps launched this concept for Team USA.
• Coaching: In 2021, US Sailing paid for full time coaching in four classes. In 2023, all 10 were covered plus increasing coaching for the Olympic Development Program thanks to Quantum Racing. Bringing coaches like Robert Scheidt to the team creates positive change on many fronts.
• An efficient organization: The Olympic Sailing Program rebuilt its operations staff. While increasing the budget by 60%, we also increased operational efficiency coming in under budget each year and creating a positive cash balance of $2.25M at year end 2022.
• Increased Funding: We built a support structure of donors and sponsors who believed in the mission and the vision of how we were going to get there. That vision and leadership garnered $18M in commitments. We also got a large boost ($7.5M) toward our $100M endowment thanks to Treecie and Ding Schoonmaker.
The USOPC requires one third of the US Sailing Board of Directors to be athletes of some distinction. How did this requirement impact the operation of the US Olympic Sailing Program?
Like all new rules, USOPC and each sport’s national governing body are gaining experience with this requirement. I believe the athletes voice must be heard. I also believe this requirement puts a new responsibility on the experienced Board members.
It had been said that concerning issues within the program had been brought forth from the athletes? What were the problems?
Change is difficult. There will always be complaints. Remaining mediocre was not an option for me. Since my departure, the number emails, texts and phone calls I have received from the athletes, expressing appreciation for what we were building, has been heartwarming. It was my honor and privilege to work with them on their journey to excellence.
Can a team leader make everyone happy?
It is hard to please everyone all the time. That said, a good leader leads with commitment, charisma, passion that is infectious and builds a winning culture. I certainly strive to do that in every program I have ever been involved with.
Following your resignation, the US Team’s high performance leadership group also resigned. What should we read into that?
Simply that they did not believe in the reorganization promulgated by the Board. This is the third time in three quads that the volunteer board has stepped in and changed the Olympic team strategy and leadership without any input from the professionals hired to build (and rebuild) the program. Obviously, the Olympic staff felt disrespected by this. Any reasonable person would take that as not being considered of value, and leave. Exemplifying their passion for the athletes, Luther Carpenter and Charlie McKee are traveling to Palma this week to coach their athletes on their own nickel!
The United States Sailing Foundation has also endured resignations following your departure, with Chairman Bill Ruh and Treasurer Johnny Lovell resigning. How is this connected to the changes occurring with the US Olympic Program?
Bill Koch, Tom Whidden, and several others followed as well. Like the Olympic staff resignations, these Foundation resignations are directly related to the changes made by the US Sailing Association Board. Bill Ruh was Chairman of the Foundation and along with myself, primarily responsible for raising $18M. Johnny Lovell is a 4-time Olympian and Silver medalist. He felt we were on the right path. Bill Koch and Tom Whidden need no introduction. We were all about winning!
You remain passionate about raising the standard of the US Olympic Sailing Program, but there are people that contend the obstacles in the country are too great. How do you feel now?
I love the USA and what it stands for. My immigrant father found great opportunity in the USA. At the 1984 Olympics, I marched into the LA Colosseum with Evander Holifield, Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis, Mary Lou Retton, Edwin Moses, and 495 other great American Athletes. The Sailing Team won Gold and Silver in every class. The sport of Sailing has given me so much. I wanted to pay it forward. I will remain the biggest fan of our USA athletes. I know our athletes can get back to the top of the podium. Go USA!
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He should be happy. He is finally showing those guys the light!
Glenn McCarthy
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It all started when the USOC had some financial finagling (Britishly understated) by its Executive Director. They decided that their organization was too unwieldy with a 50+ person board of directors.
Now, we were all "told" that the USOC had told US Sailing that they needed to downsize their Board of Directors. Did I ever see this letter? Nope, sure would like to see it.
It started the ball rolling thru Baxter and Muldoon.
The "cover story" everyone was given was this MUST happen, the USOC said so.
Now, we were all "told" that the USOC had told US Sailing that they needed to downsize their Board of Directors. Did I ever see this letter? Nope, sure would like to see it.
It started the ball rolling thru Baxter and Muldoon.
The "cover story" everyone was given was this MUST happen, the USOC said so.
Glenn McCarthy
Super Anarchist
The 50+ person Board actually worked. It really tamed any Prez who wanted to be a King. Sure a little dysfunction happened a few times.
But not like the total dysfunction that exists with this small "efficient and nimble" board!
John Burnham was the Editor of Sailing World in those days, seemed like a pretty reasonable guy. He wrote an Editorial about how he was in favor of the change.
I've tried tracking down an email address for him a few times to see what he thinks of his decision now!
But not like the total dysfunction that exists with this small "efficient and nimble" board!
John Burnham was the Editor of Sailing World in those days, seemed like a pretty reasonable guy. He wrote an Editorial about how he was in favor of the change.
I've tried tracking down an email address for him a few times to see what he thinks of his decision now!
Tcatman
Super Anarchist
What a collection of bozo's.!.... US Sailing always took 10 percent of any money YOU personally raised for your olympic sailing program... Administration fees.... I think they called it because they own the rings... ... Its been this way for over 30 years. It pisses everyone off and has for ever. bottom line .. Cayard just found a pretense to quit.
"• Repatriating the Olympic Trials. Regaining control of our Olympic selection trials, having a “winner” represent our country, and inspiring the next generation." What the hell does this mean... Why does a US Trials regatta to sort out 3 funded teams of the the US sailing program make any sense?
"Domestic platform: Created a circuit of six domestic Olympic regattas annually, the most recent of which brought 200 competitors from 30 nations to our waters."
I must have missed these big events... They have barely been able to run the Miami OCR's and get some media attention... How do you think 6 domestic events in 49ners or N17's is gonna improve performance? IS this is a field of dreams strategy??? build it and they will come??? The international circuit follows the weather.... Cayard. "OK I have a plan... lets fight mother nature, and the movement of the planet and run events for the elite world sailor to spend big bucks and kick butt on the mid fleet US team..." What argument can you even float that makes sense of why would the international elite waste their money on Paul's 6 US regattas?
"Bringing coaches like Robert Scheidt to the team creates positive change on many fronts."
WTF.... when does being a great sailor translate to being a great coach? This is typical US bullshit of name dropping a rock star so that clueless fans nod their heads... Ooooh... Robert Scheidt.... I know him... good move Paul!!!... Maybe Scheidt is a great coach...but more likely... his reputation as a sailor is far greater then his skill as a coach... . Cayard proffers... Robert Scheidt... i give you Michael Jordan .... (being the GOAT means Jack shit when it comes to running a team... (rumor is that he is supposedly selling his share of the Hornets after 10 years of zilch as leader.... now if you want to talk about marketing shoes.... you got me.)
I will give cayard credit... he managed to bullshit more people into giving this misbegotten mess more resources then other people. Everybody got paid...
I will give the remaining US Sailing Bozo's credit for getting rid of Cayard... everybody got paid
Cue up Sting a Ship of fools.
"• Repatriating the Olympic Trials. Regaining control of our Olympic selection trials, having a “winner” represent our country, and inspiring the next generation." What the hell does this mean... Why does a US Trials regatta to sort out 3 funded teams of the the US sailing program make any sense?
"Domestic platform: Created a circuit of six domestic Olympic regattas annually, the most recent of which brought 200 competitors from 30 nations to our waters."
I must have missed these big events... They have barely been able to run the Miami OCR's and get some media attention... How do you think 6 domestic events in 49ners or N17's is gonna improve performance? IS this is a field of dreams strategy??? build it and they will come??? The international circuit follows the weather.... Cayard. "OK I have a plan... lets fight mother nature, and the movement of the planet and run events for the elite world sailor to spend big bucks and kick butt on the mid fleet US team..." What argument can you even float that makes sense of why would the international elite waste their money on Paul's 6 US regattas?
"Bringing coaches like Robert Scheidt to the team creates positive change on many fronts."
WTF.... when does being a great sailor translate to being a great coach? This is typical US bullshit of name dropping a rock star so that clueless fans nod their heads... Ooooh... Robert Scheidt.... I know him... good move Paul!!!... Maybe Scheidt is a great coach...but more likely... his reputation as a sailor is far greater then his skill as a coach... . Cayard proffers... Robert Scheidt... i give you Michael Jordan .... (being the GOAT means Jack shit when it comes to running a team... (rumor is that he is supposedly selling his share of the Hornets after 10 years of zilch as leader.... now if you want to talk about marketing shoes.... you got me.)
I will give cayard credit... he managed to bullshit more people into giving this misbegotten mess more resources then other people. Everybody got paid...
I will give the remaining US Sailing Bozo's credit for getting rid of Cayard... everybody got paid
Cue up Sting a Ship of fools.
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Nonsense. Cayard's career and record of fundraising speaks for itself-- and the most relevant aspect of that the fundraising, had been going really well. That's 80% of the job right there.
FFS, if this was a Paul Cayard problem, his resignation would have solved things, and you wouldnt have seen a flood of people go with him. Conversely, this is a systemic problem / Dick Jepson problem and you see, the Cayard resignation didn't solve anything it led to everyone else wanting to have no part of the organization without him at the helm!
FFS, if this was a Paul Cayard problem, his resignation would have solved things, and you wouldnt have seen a flood of people go with him. Conversely, this is a systemic problem / Dick Jepson problem and you see, the Cayard resignation didn't solve anything it led to everyone else wanting to have no part of the organization without him at the helm!
MR.CLEAN
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Does it? Please show me where in his resume he successfully ran an organization larger than a Volvo 60. Artemis was one of the most noteworthy failures in AC history. Pirates squandered a huge budget to barely hold on to second place with 2x the budget of anyone else. Feel free to list the rest of his major organizational successes since EF Language - Star regattas and RC44 titles do not count.
Cayard has shown himself to be a great sailor, a good coach, and a good dad. He's good at running small teams in exclusive series, and is clearly very good at interacting with Middle Eastern petroxecutives, Russian oligarchs and American billionaires. I have looked at a lot of executive resumés in my life, and Cayard's doesn't look like that of a national team principal.
If the head of the org only spends 20% of his time making sure the org operates successfully, that's a problem.
Hiring Cayard as the head of the team was bad management by the Board. His resignation exposed how bad that management is.
That sort of ploy is often used at the individual club level: when members are informed that some new restriction is required, or some existing service must be eliminated, because the club’s insurer has demanded it. 99.99% of the time, that rationale is complete and utter bullshit (underwriters very seldom demand changes in how individual insureds run their respective businesses).
It’s shocking that elected representatives and staff members blatantly lie about such things ... but it is a very effective strategy for obtaining approval, and unfortunately they almost never get called on it.
Yes, that is terrible governance.
Perhaps a case could be made that a nominee should have to show at least some modest pre-election support for his or her candidacy: thus demonstrating that he or she is not a complete asshole who can’t work with others and has no friends. But a much smaller number - say, 10 signatures - would be quite sufficient for that purpose.
Setting the requirement at 250 signatures is an unjustifiable - and almost insurmountable - hurdle. Clearly, its only purpose is to exclude people who aren’t part of the ‘in crowd’.
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
What was the status of the US Olympic Sailing Program when you took over two years ago?
There was a $2.8M financial deficit, four coaches, an experienced staff, and no medal contenders.
No medal contenders. Is that not a remarkably crass comment for the ex-Olympic Team Director to say in public, even if true? Presumably these no-hopers are still pursuing their 2024 dream and hoping to raise some $$. Why the necessity to actively shit upon them?
There was a $2.8M financial deficit, four coaches, an experienced staff, and no medal contenders.
No medal contenders. Is that not a remarkably crass comment for the ex-Olympic Team Director to say in public, even if true? Presumably these no-hopers are still pursuing their 2024 dream and hoping to raise some $$. Why the necessity to actively shit upon them?
BrightAyes
Anarchist
You slamming the Paul for being truthful?
