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Rum Runner
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You forgot that the article also says that this is the lowest occupancy rate in 15 years. My unofficial observations say this this number is probably lower from my visits to different harbors.
You forgot that the article also says that this is the lowest occupancy rate in 15 years. My unofficial observations say this this number is probably lower from my visits to different harbors.
76% is low - but the article headline said occupancy was up 1%...so how would that be "the lowest?"
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bowduude
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Its a bit higher- but not great. One of my friends back in Chicago (who is in the know) shared the real numbers.
- Harbor fill rate is ~74%
There are deals to be had at 31st street. When I was back there a month ago- I could not believe how nice that harbor is. Pool and great amenities. I just think 31st suffered from bad timing and the division (North vs. South) in Chicago. If you are open minded you would be surprised. I heard that they relocated the Sea Scouts to that harbor and are looking to build a base there long-term. Probably a good idea as many of the kids on the south side wouldn't get a shot at getting on a boat. The whole Goldman thing is a crap shot- they should stick to adaptive sailing and let the new Don Wilson group run community sailing. I'm sure the park district can do better- why they let Goldman take over the rainbow fleet is beyond many.
bowduude
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To be fair- So is Indiana- Hammond marina is a ghost town. Winthrop harbor is close to 60%. The only ones that seem to be doing well are Racine and Kenosha. Even Racine has vacancy as one of delivery trips back from the Mac last year- I was able to call day of and had my choice of quite a few spots.
Truth be told- boating and especially sailing have problems. Too white, too old. With all the frac/lease/ bnb/peer2peer stuff- many only see it getting worse. We've seen a dent in the buyer market in California.
Keysrock35
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What are these deals? I do not see a promotion on the harbor website, but maybe I don't know where to look.
FWIW, NW Indiana reported May 2012, and presumably up slightly since? http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/northwest-indiana-marinas-gearing-up-for-boating-season/article_1552013c-d6cf-5846-9146-5fcbe3ce80db.html
Though I know some/most/all exaggerate their occupancy rates whenever possible, Chicago included.
The few times I've been to 31 St Harbor it's truly been a "ghost town." $102,000 per slip to build (shaking head...)
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Holdmycourse!
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"Too white, too old." Love that response, like it is a diversity issue that is hurting sailing. As far as too old all of the millenials can step up and start buying those boats to save sailing from "The Man". That is if they can move out of their parents basement first.
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Keysrock35
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bite me, old man
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spring fever
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bowduude
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2012? Why acid wash jeans and mullet tops are still in style. I think the situation has worsened since 2012 no improved.
Nothing like to good old days (15 years ago), but with almost 3 weeks to go, there are already more Chicago NOOD entries than last year. Sections will undoubtedly change, but a little encouraging - at least it's not down more this year?
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Rum Runner
Rum Runner
Looks like all of the growth is the J111 fleet which is having their NA's that weekend in Chicago. Also a few more J70's. Otherwise the T10 registration is down and other classes are also not growing.
Rum Runner
Rum Runner
160 boats signed up for the one-design regatta in Detroit this weekend. Of course you get a weekend in Detroit for the price of entry there.
