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Crain's reported last year occupancy in the harbors combined is 76%. Belmont, Diversey, DuSable are sold out. Sorry for the facts, please go back to the regular programming......

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150729/BLOGS02/150729793/harbor-occupancy-finally-up-1-whole-percentage-point
You forgot that the article also says that this is the lowest occupancy rate in 15 years. My unofficial observations say this this number is probably lower from my visits to different harbors.

 

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Crain's reported last year occupancy in the harbors combined is 76%. Belmont, Diversey, DuSable are sold out. Sorry for the facts, please go back to the regular programming......http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150729/BLOGS02/150729793/harbor-occupancy-finally-up-1-whole-percentage-point
You forgot that the article also says that this is the lowest occupancy rate in 15 years. My unofficial observations say this this number is probably lower from my visits to different harbors.

76% is low - but the article headline said occupancy was up 1%...so how would that be "the lowest?"
 
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I saw recently that less than 60% of Chicago harbors' moorings are occupied. I guess that means that you can move to another marina if you don't like the parking at 31st St.
Its a bit higher- but not great. One of my friends back in Chicago (who is in the know) shared the real numbers.

- Harbor fill rate is ~74%

There are deals to be had at 31st street. When I was back there a month ago- I could not believe how nice that harbor is. Pool and great amenities. I just think 31st suffered from bad timing and the division (North vs. South) in Chicago. If you are open minded you would be surprised. I heard that they relocated the Sea Scouts to that harbor and are looking to build a base there long-term. Probably a good idea as many of the kids on the south side wouldn't get a shot at getting on a boat. The whole Goldman thing is a crap shot- they should stick to adaptive sailing and let the new Don Wilson group run community sailing. I'm sure the park district can do better- why they let Goldman take over the rainbow fleet is beyond many.

 
Crain's reported last year occupancy in the harbors combined is 76%. Belmont, Diversey, DuSable are sold out. Sorry for the facts, please go back to the regular programming......

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150729/BLOGS02/150729793/harbor-occupancy-finally-up-1-whole-percentage-point
You forgot that the article also says that this is the lowest occupancy rate in 15 years. My unofficial observations say this this number is probably lower from my visits to different harbors.
To be fair- So is Indiana- Hammond marina is a ghost town. Winthrop harbor is close to 60%. The only ones that seem to be doing well are Racine and Kenosha. Even Racine has vacancy as one of delivery trips back from the Mac last year- I was able to call day of and had my choice of quite a few spots.

Truth be told- boating and especially sailing have problems. Too white, too old. With all the frac/lease/ bnb/peer2peer stuff- many only see it getting worse. We've seen a dent in the buyer market in California.

 

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To be fair- So is Indiana- Hammond marina is a ghost town.
FWIW, NW Indiana reported May 2012, and presumably up slightly since? http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/northwest-indiana-marinas-gearing-up-for-boating-season/article_1552013c-d6cf-5846-9146-5fcbe3ce80db.html

Though I know some/most/all exaggerate their occupancy rates whenever possible, Chicago included.

The few times I've been to 31 St Harbor it's truly been a "ghost town." $102,000 per slip to build (shaking head...)

  • The Hammond Marina, with 916 slips available for rent, expects half of those to be occupied this season.
  • The Portage Public Marina has 194 of its 200 slips occupied with the rest left for transient boaters.
  • The East Chicago Marina is at 70 percent occupancy.
  • Marina Shores at Dune Harbor, Harbormaster Scott Praxl estimated about three-quarters of the marina's slips are rented.
  • The Washington Park Marina in Michigan City is at 90 percent occupancy.
 
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Crain's reported last year occupancy in the harbors combined is 76%. Belmont, Diversey, DuSable are sold out. Sorry for the facts, please go back to the regular programming......

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150729/BLOGS02/150729793/harbor-occupancy-finally-up-1-whole-percentage-point
You forgot that the article also says that this is the lowest occupancy rate in 15 years. My unofficial observations say this this number is probably lower from my visits to different harbors.
To be fair- So is Indiana- Hammond marina is a ghost town. Winthrop harbor is close to 60%. The only ones that seem to be doing well are Racine and Kenosha. Even Racine has vacancy as one of delivery trips back from the Mac last year- I was able to call day of and had my choice of quite a few spots.

Truth be told- boating and especially sailing have problems. Too white, too old. With all the frac/lease/ bnb/peer2peer stuff- many only see it getting worse. We've seen a dent in the buyer market in California.

"Too white, too old." Love that response, like it is a diversity issue that is hurting sailing. As far as too old all of the millenials can step up and start buying those boats to save sailing from "The Man". That is if they can move out of their parents basement first.

 
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To be fair- So is Indiana- Hammond marina is a ghost town.
FWIW, NW Indiana reported May 2012, and presumably up slightly since? http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/northwest-indiana-marinas-gearing-up-for-boating-season/article_1552013c-d6cf-5846-9146-5fcbe3ce80db.html

Though I know some/most/all exaggerate their occupancy rates whenever possible, Chicago included.

The few times I've been to 31 St Harbor it's truly been a "ghost town." $102,000 per slip to build (shaking head...)

  • The Hammond Marina, with 916 slips available for rent, expects half of those to be occupied this season.
  • The Portage Public Marina has 194 of its 200 slips occupied with the rest left for transient boaters.
  • The East Chicago Marina is at 70 percent occupancy.
  • Marina Shores at Dune Harbor, Harbormaster Scott Praxl estimated about three-quarters of the marina's slips are rented.
  • The Washington Park Marina in Michigan City is at 90 percent occupancy.
2012? Why acid wash jeans and mullet tops are still in style. I think the situation has worsened since 2012 no improved.

 

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Nothing like to good old days (15 years ago), but with almost 3 weeks to go, there are already more Chicago NOOD entries than last year. Sections will undoubtedly change, but a little encouraging - at least it's not down more this year?

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Nothing like to good old days (15 years ago), but with almost 3 weeks to go, there are already more Chicago NOOD entries than last year. Sections will undoubtedly change, but a little encouraging - at least it's not down more this year?
Looks like all of the growth is the J111 fleet which is having their NA's that weekend in Chicago. Also a few more J70's. Otherwise the T10 registration is down and other classes are also not growing.

 

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Momentus, No Quarter, Solution, Variance are all new 111 owners to the Southern Lake Michigan Fleet. That makes 12 of the 15 NA Registered SLM Boats with 7 are from Chicago.

Good growth for the Fleet,

 

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At the Bayview One Design the OD aspect is growing and the handicap fleet is fading.

The party is reliably good to great. The cost of food has gone up but Bell's beer and Mt. Gay are cheap.

 


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