Choate Boats from the past

[A3A]

The CF-33 was a Mull design 3/4 tonner the same vintage as the original Davidson Pendragon. Completely different design concepts. Bacchanal, Ghost and Hot Rum were masthead, but I recall the one Dick Deaver sailed that year was a frac? In any event, they were all pintails with narrow sterns and could give the crews whiplash from the speed with which they could spin out with a kite up! After a couple of years Baccanal and Hot Rum had much wider stern sections grafted on and made them much better boats.

 

[sledracr]

(CF-33) but I recall the one Dick Deaver sailed that year was a frac?

IIRC, Stargazer was an eye-openingly tall frac-rig.

 

[Hale Moana]

I do not know the Elanders. I was racing out of Dana Point. Did not know that any of the CF27's were measured for the IOR. All my racing was PHRF.

 

[12 metre]

I do not know the Elanders. I was racing out of Dana Point. Did not know that any of the CF27's were measured for the IOR. All my racing was PHRF.

IIRC they measured in around the Half Ton level in IOR. A bit shorter than most HT.
NW and BC PHRF for a CF-27 is 162 while the typical range for a HT of the mid 70's is 160-170.

 

[Hale Moana]

My boat rated 150.

 

[12 metre]

My boat rated 150.

And most likely any mid 70's Half Ton in your region would have around a 150 PHRF as well.

 

[tizak]

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[unShirley]

I posted this in another thread a few months ago, but it is relevant to this thread as well. I regularly crewed on Amante the first two years it was campaigned.

An active and well maintained old war horse

 

[Derivas]

Looking for Nutrunner, we are the original owners of Cannibal and would be interested in communicating if you’d like. Our email is [email protected]. We got that name in 1980 and have been Id’d by that ever since.

A little bit of history…
so you know, Cannibal’s name came from Ernesto Gann’s Twilight of the Gods, true story. On the loss of the Cannibal we thought that there should be another one. Thus the name. Plus, we chewed a lot of butts while racing in SoCal.

Happy sailing, we loved it!

 

[Great Red Shark]

 

[Somebody Else]

... If memory is right, ZigZag and the Hi Roler which became Jetstream were different Petersons 44's both built by Eichenlaub with aluminum hulls and plywood decks.

Hull banged out by Jim Betts?

Since I moved to the PNW, I get to see a lot of examples of his meticulous carbon fiber work.

 

[12 metre]

1980 Choate 48 advertised on CL. Maybe Arriba?
Says a King/Andrews/Choate design, but looks nothing like I would expect from King. : https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/boa/d/wilmington-1980-dennis-choate-48/7600491574.html

 

[Madmax]

Al Castillion (Chief) and his CF33 Hot Rum has won almost every SoCal West coast regatta in existence at one time or another, IOR, PHRF, Class, Overall. We even won SD-Manzanillio Race overall in 81! Hot Rum has been one of Dennis Choates ultra successful boats! Bruce Nelson was a young designer when he redesigned the aft facelift to the boat and got rid of the pintail @ 79.

 

[silent bob]

Al Castillion (Chief) and his CF33 Hot Rum has won almost every SoCal West coast regatta in existence at one time or another, IOR, PHRF, Class, Overall. We even won SD-Manzanillio Race overall in 81! Hot Rum has been one of Dennis Choates ultra successful boats! Bruce Nelson was a young designer when he redesigned the aft facelift to the boat and got rid of the pintail @ 79.

Unfortunately, we won't be sailing any more Castillion Classics out of RBYC. Rudy and the gang has been pretty good about getting Al out as much as they can. RP will be out there more, as soon as he can!

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[sledracr]

1980 Choate 48 advertised on CL. Maybe Arriba?
Says a King/Andrews/Choate design, but looks nothing like I would expect from King. :

Yeah, if it's described as King/Andrews/Choate, it's Arriba

The story (IIRC) is that there was an unfinished hull for a Bruce King design, Choate had Andrews design some mods (including, IIRC, splitting the hull at the centerline to broaden the aft sections) and, voila!

 

[silent bob]

Yeah, if it's described as King/Andrews/Choate, it's Arriba

The story (IIRC) is that there was an unfinished hull for a Bruce King design, Choate had Andrews design some mods (including, IIRC, splitting the hull at the centerline to broaden the aft sections) and, voila!

Back when Bruce King was an old man and Alan was a young man?! Dad had a Bruce King boat from the early '70;s. She was a bit Roley Poley! Fortunately, it had a very short boom, so we were never pinned down for long! It had the windows in the topsides, like Amante, so I got to see lots of fish!

 

[longy]

US citizen, BVI corp and BVI flag

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Not one of Dennis’s best efforts. Could have been due to the owner. I delivered the boat HI to LA for a Transpac, had some interesting failures. The rudder tube was aluminum tube, and had not been prepped properly before glassing it to hull. Leaving Oahu the post gland started leaking heavily, after crawling back there to inspect found the metal unstuck from the glass, and the tube was moving upwards. This completely destroyed the gland, and soon allowed the top of the rudder blade to hit the hull. As this progressed we could turn less & less until the rudder became frozen. We hammered/chipped a chunk of lead out of the interior IOR ballast and used it to slam the top of the rudder post, driving the rudde back down to regain steering. As the gland was leaking about a pint across each wave, as I was back there inspecting I took the manual bilge pump hose and jammed it into a bilge sectional that had no limbers, so was full of water. Banged on the cockpit floor & told the helm to find the handle and start pumping. With the aid of á failing flashlight I soon noticed the hose was not sucking, it was blowing. Wriggled back out, grabbed some tools & went to swap the hoses on the pump. Got that done, got the helm pumping (and actually working) somehow thought it might be a good thing to figure out where the discharge went so we could watch it to verify pump working. Following the discharge hose, it is hooked to the man overboard pole tube (old guys know this) and should be discharging out the transom. But with the boat heeled over, the pole exit was uphill - and also tied into this tube (on the down hill side) was the fuel tank vent! So we are about to pump the bilge into the fuel tank! I could see salt water in the vent tube starting to go down the hose - so grabbed my knife and cut the vent hose at the tank in a panic.
Also discovered that all the bolts for anything mounted aft of the wheel thru the cockpit floor had bolts at least twice as long as needed, so the extra length stuck down to make access really fun. Many bolts did not have enuff thread, so larger dia nuts were stacked up until thread was reached. Many more weird things on that delivery, but they got into personal stuff.

 

[sledracr]

Back when Bruce King was an old man

He's still around, enjoying (I'm told) his retirement from a nice place on the water in Maine..,.

 

[tizak]

"1980 Dennis Choate 48' Transpac winner - $20,000 (Wilmington)​

1980 48' Dennis Choate IOR Transpac 1979 winner sail boat."

Incredible boat - won Transpac the year before it was built!

 

[CriticalPath]

Not one of Dennis’s best efforts.

Musta been a Friday/Monday build!