Christmas Regatta

[jamem3]

Does anyone know what LR,AM and Ineos total race times were on day 2? Interested to compare there deltas

 

[Indio]

Looks like Course C today..

 

[Rushman]

Does anyone know what LR,AM and Ineos total race times were on day 2? Interested to compare there deltas

As LR, AM did a 4 lap race 3, times for each leg would be better. 

 

[Woolfy]

It is an "Event" or have you forgotten that?  If they wanted to present the best sailing course day in day out B, C, and D wouldn't feature ever due to the land and tide effects.  Now that would be boring wouldn't it?

 In any level of racing using or avoiding current along with wind strength and direction variations are an integral part of the skillset that should be tested in order to determine who is best. If I had my way as long as a true windward leeward course could be set, a course option up and down under the harbour bridge would be used. 

The best course to test a teams true abilities is one where there are multiple options as to the route taken, go left for more pressure or right to be in less adverse current? How do you position yourself at a gate to stay in sinc with wind shifts whilst containing or breaking away from the other boat? Etc etc.

Yeah sure these aren't things the nonsailing viewer would be able to understand, but a good presenter could explain these to them without boring the tits off those that do.

A course with no or consistant current and constant wind strength and direction would as you rightly imply be dull. Therefore as far as I'm concerned B,C and D are the best courses by a country mile, the fact that they also have great viewing platforms around them is a huge bonus. 

 

[Stingray~]

The 36th America’s Cup’s warm up event exposes technical issues for teams and race management and establishes an early pecking order ahead of January’s Prada Cup

https://www.sailingworld.com/story/racing/americas-cup-world-series-day-2-update/

 

[kenergy]

Really?

Don't you think it's possible that PB is engaging in a bit of creative sandbagging?

The only way they can have any semblance of a race is to let their opponents get ahead, and by falling off the foils at crucial  times they can achieve this.

It's shades of the "Burling doesn't know how to start "from the Bermuda.

Absolutely. 

If they win the start against INEOS then they may as well be training by themselves. They've got plenty of time for that. 

 

[asw456]

Does anyone want download links to full quality youtube downloads of Day 1 and 2? PM me if so

 

[167149]

He also is very arrogant.  Never gives the opponent really any credit, it was all mistakes they did or other "problems".  I really think he is the one with the biggest head of all the helmsman.

Colin Meads, Ritchey Mccaw and Ed Hillary were not a lot different to be honest...... it aint arrogance..... it's the way we are down here, as the Kiwi general said to the Pommy one in WW2 when commenting on a lack of saluting..... oh just wave and they'll wave back ok

 

[barfy]

I thought that was Jimmy in SF 2013

That was jimmy, bustling fronted him in bda. I could have worded that differently, I was using the quotes as an adjective.

 

[Sailbydate]

It is an "Event" or have you forgotten that?  If they wanted to present the best sailing course day in day out B, C, and D wouldn't feature ever due to the land and tide effects.  Now that would be boring wouldn't it?

Deed of Gift compliant do you think? (A bit of shit stirring, just for fun)

 

[Priscilla]

"The ever-clever Kiwis" I like that a lot

 

[Stingray~]

America's Cup: Tricky winds force makeshift course for Saturday

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/123766018/americas-cup-tricky-winds-force-makeshift-course-for-saturday

 

[Stingray~]

AMERICA’S CUP WORLD SERIES – SATURDAY SCHEDULE

Race 1: Luna Rossa v INEOS Team UK.

Race 2: Team New Zealand v American Magic

Race 3: American Magic v INEOS Team UK

Race 4: Team New Zealand v Luna Rossa

 

[trt131]

I agree, they can change them by unanimous agreement - but do you honestly believe that LR and Brexitannia will agree to changing the penalties to old-school 360s?

Old school penalties in Match Racing is not  a 360, its one tack and one gybe.

 

[Sailbydate]

America's Cup: Tricky winds force makeshift course for Saturday

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/123766018/americas-cup-tricky-winds-force-makeshift-course-for-saturday

Lots to think about. Might be something to do with those start box limitations too.

 

[Forourselves]

Not much chat about it, but it looked like the Race control data was way out, as Jimmy eluded to yesterday. First race, ETNZ didn't even go through the finish line, but they weren't penalised for it. ETNZ also looked like they crossed the boundary in the same race.

 

[porthos]

Not much chat about it, but it looked like the Race control data was way out, as Jimmy eluded to yesterday. First race, ETNZ didn't even go through the finish line, but they weren't penalised for it. ETNZ also looked like they crossed the boundary in the same race.

The Kiwis crossed the finish line. The graphic was off. 

 

[NZL3481]

Lots to think about. Might be something to do with those start box limitations too.

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That's one of Iain's best "you've got no fucking idea" looks I've seen in a while...

 

[Ex-yachtie]

Not much chat about it, but it looked like the Race control data was way out, as Jimmy eluded to yesterday. First race, ETNZ didn't even go through the finish line, but they weren't penalised for it. ETNZ also looked like they crossed the boundary in the same race.

The race committee were towing the pin end upwind as ETNZ were trying to enter. It’s little wonder the course data is off. 

 

[Sailbydate]

Not much chat about it, but it looked like the Race control data was way out, as Jimmy eluded to yesterday. First race, ETNZ didn't even go through the finish line, but they weren't penalised for it. ETNZ also looked like they crossed the boundary in the same race.

Couple of the skippers (Jimmy and Pete) commented on how tight the start box was for Day 2.