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[equivocator]

What Longy and gkny said, sheet is over-eased for the windy conditions, mainsail too. Driver also sailing too deep. Best to keep the pole under-squared and the sheet in a few feet to keep the spinnaker in front of the boat, so the windward luff curl of the spinnaker doesn't heel the boat to windward. Same with keeping the main in a bit in order to maintain heel to the leeward side. Bad ju-ju to lose it to windward like this. Key in this situation is to not ease the spin sheet when the boat heels to windward. Best save would be to ease the starboard spin sheet and collapse the sail, which is likely to get the boat back on its feet. I think the pole is under water. Hopefully, the foreguy is tight enough to keep the pole from being broken by the starboard shroud.

 

[DtM]

I think the bowman's approach is the best one.  I am just going to sit this one out, you are so smart in fantasy land you can fix it.

 

[fastyacht]

No sandbar . free water

It was in the pruple font.

 

[Dogfish4255]

You ought not ease the sheet that way . . . Mmmm.

I don't reckon the mast got no reason to stay pointed upright, once the spinnaker gone that way . . . Mmmm.

Tough to know if this was precipitated by the trimmer or the driver, but the trimmer DEFINITELY made it way worse.

 

[Pollination]

Chinese Jibe turn perfectly good boat into JUNK 

 

[Livia]

There’s much fun to be had searching this photo in detail for clues as to how the crew of the Swan 45 arrived at their predicament. But the poor bloke in the bow has had enough - he can’t bear to even look… Find any clues?

Most likely because the guy who should be standing up is crawling up the cockpit floor on his belly if you look close

 

[Teaky]

Maybe the sheet was way too eased and the chute way too far out to windward for the puff

Correct.  Eased too far ahead of the gust when they should have been sheeting in.  Then let go once the gust hit.  Trimmer error, unless the helmsperson dived down.

 

[DtM]

unless the helmsperson dived down.

He certainly dived !!  Onto the floor

 

[SF Woody Sailor]

Having been in this situation more than once the most obvious thing is that the sheet is eased about 15 feet too far. Sheet should have tweakers on at max beam and should never have been eased. Pole should be forward and foreguyed down hard to take the foot off the accelerator. It still requires a deft touch on the helm to time the gybe right, and a puff or wave at the wrong moment can throw the timing off. When you round down you oversheet the sheet and blow the guy not the other way around. 

If you would like to see a good example of how not to do it (and to lose the Nationals at the same time) watch this. It is blowing about 35ish and we are leading. The timing was thrown off by a sticky jaw. I am in the visor.

 

[Wright Way]

A reef in the main would have helped a lot 

 

[fastyacht]

1 hour ago, SF Woody Sailor said:

Having been in this situation more than once the most obvious thing is that the sheet is eased about 15 feet too far. Sheet should have tweakers on at max beam and should never have been eased. Pole should be forward and foreguyed down hard to take the foot off the accelerator. It still requires a deft touch on the helm to time the gybe right, and a puff or wave at the wrong moment can throw the timing off. When you round down you oversheet the sheet and blow the guy not the other way around. 

If you would like to see a good example of how not to do it (and to lose the Nationals at the same time) watch this. It is blowing about 35ish and we are leading. The timing was thrown off by a sticky jaw. I am in the visor.

None ofvus practice off nominal rnough.

 

[RobbieB]

Clearly they failed to keep the who-who pointed at the Christ-almighty and now they are doing a God-damnit...

There went my coffee...

 

[gn4478]

So, what would be the best move to recover from this cluster..?

 

[Mr. Squirrel]

So, what would be the best move to recover from this cluster..?

Samurai douse

MS

 

[gn4478]

Samurai douse

MS

Meaning chop the halyard?

 

[Mr. Squirrel]

Meaning chop the halyard?

Mostly kidding, but yes once they finish the wipeout they will need to drop the halyard and then pick up the rest of the pieces.

 

['Bacco]

Not saying this from experience or anything, but the pit person was probably sent downstairs to get the skipper a beer.

 

[NoMaintenance]

Bow man is forward, so they were most likely gybing. Looks like the jaws were tripped, gust hit, trimmer over-eased the sheet as the shit hit the fan, end of the pole got caught by the rushing water. Hey guys -- that vang thingy is kind of useful, might want to put someone on that after you change your pants. 

 

[Steam Flyer]

Bow man is forward, so they were most likely gybing. Looks like the jaws were tripped, gust hit, trimmer over-eased the sheet as the shit hit the fan, end of the pole got caught by the rushing water. Hey guys -- that vang thingy is kind of useful, might want to put someone on that after you change your pants. 

Note to trimmer.... don't do that, next time

FB- Doug

 

[shaggy]

16 hours ago, SF Woody Sailor said:

Having been in this situation more than once the most obvious thing is that the sheet is eased about 15 feet too far. Sheet should have tweakers on at max beam and should never have been eased. Pole should be forward and foreguyed down hard to take the foot off the accelerator. It still requires a deft touch on the helm to time the gybe right, and a puff or wave at the wrong moment can throw the timing off. When you round down you oversheet the sheet and blow the guy not the other way around. 

If you would like to see a good example of how not to do it (and to lose the Nationals at the same time) watch this. It is blowing about 35ish and we are leading. The timing was thrown off by a sticky jaw. I am in the visor.

Just a QQ cause you had 0 stearage..  With 9??  Guys on board, could you not have gotten a genny up??  It looked like everyone was kind of stunned for the first bit, and it took forever to get the chute out.  Looked like chaos, but I assume this happens all the time off St Fancy...  Hense the wifie's,  and the phones ready to go for the exulted ones to finish as winners....  Love to hear the convo w the skippers wife when they got into the car after...  Ummmm. so WTF happened???