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NZW

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       Looks like fun. How often do you get to go out in conditions like that?

               Oh, you need to move to Auckland. The last couple of years have been mentally windy. 

Or there's Cook Strait.  It's sometimes windy and usually cool there.  Here's 45+ knots breeze, on the same day the Volvo ocean race restart from Auckland was delayed (too windy), boatspeed average 25 (up to 30) in a 40 footer. Only 2 sails (shoulda tried harder?).  Not much horrifying, heaps of cool... 




 

bucc5062

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For video...really hit the wow factor.  For good sailing example, not even close.

Hey, I was young, was prone to fly a hull on the cat, push the old pocket cruiser, but the day I threw two gennies (150,170) on a double forestay with a full main and tried to run downwind in 25-30....I stopped that shit.  From one moment to the next I went from flying at the top of a wave to rolling 90 degrees and putting 2 feet of water in the boat.  That wasn't exciting, it was stupid.

Between the lack of main trim, the not dropping of a gennaker with a ratsnest of line, then watching as some released the sail so it had to get hauled in from the back....there needs to be some basic seamanship revisited or learned.

I learned that keeping the boat flatter was faster (and more exciting, less scary) upwind.  I learned that if you don't know how to trim a big sail in heavy breeze, it should not be up, and I learned that if you take stupid risks, the percentage of stupid things happening increases along with the potential for injury or death.  Perhaps the next video might see this bunch of young bucks in a similar breeze, but sailing smarter and as exciting.

 

coonrat

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So cool. I really miss that quick wet stuff. I'm too old for that now and I don't like getting bashed into the boards anymore.

As for teathers you use them to walk outboard of the gunnels. If your shipmates will comeback for you, you don't need a teather so much. If they intend to continue to enjoy the sail without you well . . . you might wanna tie off.

At any rate you have two hands; One for you, one for the boat.

 

HFC Hunter

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Good seamanship in those kiwi vids: washboards in, hatch shut, weight back, sensible sail choice to deliver a fabulous ride, whole crew dialled in to the task, shit-eating grins on! 

Meanwhile in the SAAC boards there's concerns that etnz might make foiling monohull dull. Really? Yeah, no!

 

random

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The Kiwi vids make the OP look more than a bit tame bro. 

And WTF are the 3.8m waves quoted in the OP?  Looked <2m to me.

 
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knuckles

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Looks like a good time, and I bet the guys learned something about line management and rethought the best approach to take down a kite in that type of breeze.

 

joku

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Looks like a good time, and I bet the guys learned something about line management and rethought the best approach to take down a kite in that type of breeze.
Indeed we did learn a bit about keeping slack sheets tied up. The problem started when while broaching slack line needs to be opened, and then it was no-one's responsibility to secure it again. For jib (during takedown), it was a conscious decision to let it be and save the kite, and clean up the mess afterwards.

Kite takedown failed when tack line got opened by accident. Until that point everything went according to the plan, and after that it was not pretty.

 

joku

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And WTF are the 3.8m waves quoted in the OP?  Looked <2m to me.
I have no idea where you took that 3.8m. In any case, I took that readings mentioned on the video and in description from nearby local meteorological institute's observation data.

I also have no idea how you are going to measure waves from wide-angle videos without any good reference points, especially for longer waves.

 

HFC Hunter

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Indeed we did learn a bit about keeping slack sheets tied up. The problem started when while broaching slack line needs to be opened, and then it was no-one's responsibility to secure it again. For jib (during takedown), it was a conscious decision to let it be and save the kite, and clean up the mess afterwards.

Kite takedown failed when tack line got opened by accident. Until that point everything went according to the plan, and after that it was not pretty.
I love seeing the boatspeed on the video whilst you're pulling in that soggy kite...

Speed shrimping! :)

 



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