olaf hart
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Wasting away in Martharitaville?
Coolboats to admire
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Veeger
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I've always kinda thought this one was good looking for a variety of reasons.
Veeger
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Whoa, whoa, whoa! Bob, we're getting a bit too close to my design criteria here now. Wait, I'll take a look at your first sketches......
kimbottles
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Cruisin Loser
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Anyone remember Methersgate, who used to post here? I think he was driven off by the DT Drivel, but he had a really cool channel cutter type, and was a good, good guy.
Sailbydate
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TheBSJ
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Nah, if it was graphics, then this would just be a quirky boat....
That's the real bits of timber you can see. It was built as part of the Cultural Olympiad for the London 2012 Games. Over 1200 different donations of timber were incorporated into the design as the build went along. Bits of a Jimi Hendrix guitar, HMS Ark Royal, Victory, the Mary Rose, Lively Lady, the Bank of England, plus loads of personal bits and pieces. You can see the hockey sticks and guitars quite easily.
Oh, and it's hit 18 knots downwind....
More here if you are interested - www.theboatproject.com
GeorgB
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The Tejst in the video linked by Veeger is a Swedish D-class sailing canoe built in a fairly modern way. For looks i prefer wooden canoes over glass. The PK520 is boatbuilder Erkki Ruokonens version of some old Finnish sailing canoe...
Here's another double-ender, the Knud Reimers designed Tumlare.
Here's another double-ender, the Knud Reimers designed Tumlare.
olaf hart
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Love the way "Tumalren to be found into" lists Australia and Tasmania as separate countries.
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Whinging Pom
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Someone described cruising in a Tumlaren as:
One in luxury
Two in hardship
Three in conflict
Four in bitter emnity.
You wear a boat like this, not sail in it!
One in luxury
Two in hardship
Three in conflict
Four in bitter emnity.
You wear a boat like this, not sail in it!
GeorgB
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I guess that's why Reimers also designed the Stortumlare which is a larger version of the boat. Adlard Coles won the transatlantic race in 1950 with one.
alesser
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There is a Tumlaren for sale up in Maine:
http://maine.craigslist.org/bod/3633428938.html
$5900
Who was it that called this design a "half tide rock"?
http://maine.craigslist.org/bod/3633428938.html
$5900
Who was it that called this design a "half tide rock"?
Bob Perry
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Semi:
I deleted my rude post from last night. re: channeling. Sorry about that.
I've been studying the work of the great designers since I was 14 years old. Can't imagine anyone has done any more of that than I have. So while I may not like the idea of needing to channel anyone the fact is that I probably do it as a reflex now, like blinking, I'm not even aware that I do it. But I'm sure I do. I bristle at the idea that I need to copy anyone and the thought of designimng "reproductions" of traditional boats is not appealing to me. I'd like to think my work is original while acknowledging the fact that I have not originated any single feature. Beethoven loved Bach but you don't hear Bach when you hear Beethoven. I don't. Maybe Paul does. My idea of a "traditional" Perry design is NIGHT RUNNER or the SLIVER.
I've been aware of the Tumlaren for longer than I can remember. It's one of those boats that just wedged itself into my brain and got stuck there. Like a barbed hook. The proportions are just so perfect. Who cares if it is not ergonomic by today's standards. It's testimony to why you can't do accurate reproductions today. Today's sailors want more and are happy to give up aesthetics in order to get it. Pity. Kim is an exception. I had to lean on Kim a bit to get some concessions to comfort. I felt I was making decisions that would benefit long term ownership of the boat and Kim's boys ownership down the road.
I deleted my rude post from last night. re: channeling. Sorry about that.
I've been studying the work of the great designers since I was 14 years old. Can't imagine anyone has done any more of that than I have. So while I may not like the idea of needing to channel anyone the fact is that I probably do it as a reflex now, like blinking, I'm not even aware that I do it. But I'm sure I do. I bristle at the idea that I need to copy anyone and the thought of designimng "reproductions" of traditional boats is not appealing to me. I'd like to think my work is original while acknowledging the fact that I have not originated any single feature. Beethoven loved Bach but you don't hear Bach when you hear Beethoven. I don't. Maybe Paul does. My idea of a "traditional" Perry design is NIGHT RUNNER or the SLIVER.
I've been aware of the Tumlaren for longer than I can remember. It's one of those boats that just wedged itself into my brain and got stuck there. Like a barbed hook. The proportions are just so perfect. Who cares if it is not ergonomic by today's standards. It's testimony to why you can't do accurate reproductions today. Today's sailors want more and are happy to give up aesthetics in order to get it. Pity. Kim is an exception. I had to lean on Kim a bit to get some concessions to comfort. I felt I was making decisions that would benefit long term ownership of the boat and Kim's boys ownership down the road.
kimbottles
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Thank goodness you did Bob! I owe you for that one.
I have decided you were right: the pure pleasure of sailing does need to come with some comfort.
Sailbydate
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Thanks for the link, TheBSJ. That's a pretty fascinating build story. A tribute to marquetry and the wonders of epoxy resin. A very unique looking boat.
Sailbydate
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Now that is a fine looking boat.There is a Tumlaren for sale up in Maine:
http://maine.craigsl...3633428938.html
$5900
Who was it that called this design a "half tide rock"?
I think some of the hyper-expensive, 40-ft daysailors look strange with only a low cuddy. It gives them a look you'd expect on a boat half as long.
A problem with the Tumlaren and Dragon and similar for my area is that they were designed for windy areas and don't have enough sail for WLIS. Luders designed the L16 for us.
Picture from http://www.l16.org/
