Coolboats to admire

Dervish

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Gone from “Chlorox bottles“ [Sonsr, Viper 640, Melges 24] to a pseudo-classic. But they get a lot of compliments for looks/coolness. Previous owner. PHRF rating of one million.
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Kris Cringle

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This might be a cockpit sole. Those corner blocks could be where drains will go.

You know these old boats. I've always admired this K Aagie Nielsen 42' sloop, presently getting a cockpit rebuild.

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The shapely corner blocks are a new design addition to a 60-year-old sailboat.

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Kris Cringle

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You know these old boats. I've always admired this K Aagie Nielsen 42' sloop, presently getting a cockpit rebuild.

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The shapely corner blocks are a new design addition to a 60-year-old sailboat.

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I wasn't aware of a 'grub' in this type of work. Building my cockpit a few years ago, I friend who is a wooden boat expert (a living archive) explained the term.

I knew I needed a transition between the raw sole/deck, and the 3/4" marine fir/glass and painted cockpit well.

Just one of many useful terms on my wood-to-fiberglass 1961 boat that has been forgotten.

Funny that some of these techniques have made a comeback in the new era of composite wood boat building.

Here's a grub close up in Ipe:

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accnick

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You know these old boats. I've always admired this K Aagie Nielsen 42' sloop, presently getting a cockpit rebuild.

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The shapely corner blocks are a new design addition to a 60-year-old sailboat.

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I did something similar, but not so fancy, with the corners for the cockpit drains when I built the cockpit of my last boat. It did not have a grub, however, as its basic structure was glassed-over ply.

One purpose of the grub is to raise the joint above the level of the deck to reduce the chance of leaking. As you know better than most, it's hard to keep a horizontal joint between right angle surfaces watertight.

My last boat had a fiberglass hull, but everything else was built like a wooden boat, including the decks and deck structures. I screwed and glued a heavy sill around the perimeter of the openings in the sub-deck for the deckhouses. The deckhouse sides were ply screwed and glued to those, then glassed over, and the joint between the subdeck and the house side glassed over before the teak decks were laid on top of the glassed-over ply sub-deck.

The deckbeams were laminated mahogany.

It was a tedious job, but it has proven to be completely watertight for more than 25 years.

I paid my dues rebuilding old boats. Building new is a lot easier. Sort of like houses in that regard.
 

Diarmuid

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I did something similar, but not so fancy, with the corners for the cockpit drains when I built the cockpit of my last boat. It did not have a grub, however, as its basic structure was glassed-over ply.

One purpose of the grub is to raise the joint above the level of the deck to reduce the chance of leaking. As you know better than most, it's hard to keep a horizontal joint between right angle surfaces watertight.
Hadn't heard that term before. :) Guessing it relates to the Germanic/Dutch/Danish/Swedish root graef, meaning to dig out or cut into. Grub huts were cut into the ground. The word grave is the most obvious use. That made its way into Norman French, then back into English as a crafting term: engraving, gravure, photograph.... And so many of our nautical terms are Dutch & Danish.

It also looks like it would provide excellent racking resistance at the corners.

ETA: Root word for 'groove', also. b/p+v/f sounds are pretty interchangeable, and vowels went all over the place.
 
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