COP27 climate summit

[Alan H]

But here on PA?... *crickets*

Which right there is a huge part of the problem. We go on and on and on and on and on and on and on about things which are important, but will fade out into the history books in 20 or 30 years. Trump, Trump, Trump until we all vomit. Meanwhile, the elephant in the room is not just going to go away and become "history" in a decade or two. But here, just like in more or less every other forum or discussion I'm aware of....

nothing.

 

[Alan H]

And if something DOES come up, it turns into a "piss on Greta Thunberg" thread.
There's a problem, you know? Maybe it should get some attention.

 

[epoxypete]

Would it have anything to do with the fact that after 27 years of listening to the same old shit in different wrappings combined with near on 40 years of failed catastrophic predictions, that people are sensing the emperor has no cloths?

 

[Alan H]

Ah epoxypete, "new member"...LOL.. riiiight. I'd respond but you know....
socks don't get no respect.

 

[3to1]

a 100,000++ page report could be written on this or it could just be said that our fkn' species needs to pull it's collective head out and do right by the planet, it's that simple.
it's beyond absurd and vulgar that things have gotten to where they are. countless consessions are way past due, but not enough shit is on enough people's doorsteps. yet.
like that little green monkey with the pointed ears in star wars said, 'there is no try, only do'.

 

[3to1]

Would it have anything to do with the fact that after 27 years of listening to the same old shit in different wrappings combined with near on 40 years of failed catastrophic predictions, that people are sensing the emperor has no cloths?

that's right, 'They're' conspiring against all you generic shitheads. very astute.

 

[sparau]

Would it have anything to do with the fact that after 27 years of listening to the same old shit in different wrappings combined with near on 40 years of failed catastrophic predictions, that people are sensing the emperor has no cloths?

Sir, the predictions 50 years ago are accurate today, perhaps you misunderstood what they meant or listen to talkback radio morons.
https://www.science.org/content/art...ate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
10 degrees C gave the world rainforests in the antarctic, a couple of degrees is a serious shift.

Oh, maybe that is incorrect, according to this article it was only 3-4 degrees C, are you living at least 20m above sea level?
https://www.sciencealert.com/there-...-last-time-there-was-this-much-co2-in-the-air

 

[animeproblem]

I wish I could be a little ray of sunshine here folks, but this so called civilization we have been living in only has little more than a decade left, the biosphere is on the verge of collapse, doubt it? May I direct your attention to, the Bering Sea crab fishery, if you will the canary in the coal mine.





See also: Guy Mc Pherson, personally I intend to watch & enjoy as much anime as possible until it all crashes down around my ears.

 

[3to1]

I realize talk is cheap, but nine posts here? what do you call that, resignation?

 

[animeproblem]

^Clearly in my case, afraid it's too late turn this around, I do however try to drive as little as possible, but I'm just one broken down old retired Ironworker.

 

[3to1]

^Clearly in my case, afraid it's too late turn this around, I do however try to drive as little as possible, but I'm just one broken down old retired Ironworker.

these problems require thousands of 'moon shots' and 'war-like economies'. without the urgent and sufficient global will, resignation is an understandable reaction.

 

[ShortForBob]

And if something DOES come up, it turns into a "piss on Greta Thunberg" thread.
There's a problem, you know? Maybe it should get some attention.

Hmm. If you look creatively at the titles, you'll find any number of threads re droughts in Europe, fires in California and Oz, rising sea levels, drowning islands, fracking etc. they just don't run to pages.
What's to discuss? It's happening.
Our overlords plan to think about it, sometime, after they've decided whether to build conventional subs or nuclear and whether Iran or China is the biggest threat to the whirled economy peas
The piss on little girls thread is upstairs I believe.

Anyway, should you choose to make a conversational contribution instead of whinging about lack of discourse, have at it.
You might be surprised.

Here you go.
4 days ago
By Esme Stallard
BBC News Climate and Science, Sharm el-Sheikh

The UN's climate change summit has opened in Egypt with a warning that our planet is "sending a distress signal".
Secretary-General Antonio Guterres was responding to a UN report released on Sunday saying the past eight years were on track to be the warmest on record.
More than 120 world leaders are due to arrive at the summit known as COP27, in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.
This will kick off two weeks of negotiations between countries on climate action.

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COP27 president, Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry, urged leaders to not let food and energy crises related to Russia's invasion of Ukraine get in the way of action on climate change.
"It is inherent on us all in Sharm el-Sheikh to demonstrate our recognition of the magnitude of the challenges we face and our steadfast resolve to overcome it."

The need for action was laid bare in the latest report from the UN's World Meteorological Organization.
Mr Guterres sent a video message to the conference in which he called the the State of the Global Climate Report 2022 a "chronicle of climate chaos".
In it, scientists estimate that global temperatures have now risen by 1.15C since pre-industrial times and said the latest eight years were on track to be the warmest on record.
The report also warned of the other wide-ranging impacts of climate change, including the acceleration of sea level rise, record glacier mass losses and record breaking heatwaves.
Mr Guterres said that in light of these findings, COP27 must be the place for urgent and credible climate action.
COP27 will really begin in earnest on Monday with a World Leaders' Summit, when heads of state and government leaders deliver five-minute addresses outlining what they want from the meeting.

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is expected to urge world leaders to move "further and faster" in transitioning to renewable energy.
He will also tell leaders not to "backslide" on commitments made at last year's COP26 summit in Glasgow.
World leaders will speak on Monday and Tuesday, and once they depart, conference delegates get down to the business of negotiation.
At last year's summit in Glasgow a number of pledges were agreed:

• to "phase down" the use of coal - one of the most polluting fossil fuels
• to stop deforestation by 2030
• to cut methane emissions by 30% by 2030
• to submit new climate action plans to the UN

Developing nations - which are at the forefront of climate change - are demanding that previous commitments to finance are upheld.

• Are countries on track to meet the climate goals from Glasgow?
• Who are the leaders and laggards on climate action?

But they also want there to be discussion on "loss and damage" finance - money to help them cope with the losses they are already facing from climate change rather than just to prepare for future impacts. Following intense negotiations, the issue is on the official agenda of COP27.

IMAGE SOURCE,ANADOLU AGENCY
Image caption,
Developing countries are seeking money to recover from ongoing climate disasters. Flooding after tropical Storm Nalgae in Philippines
As well as all the formal negotiations there will be hundreds of events over the two weeks with exhibitions, workshops and cultural performances from youth, business groups, indigenous societies, academia, artists and fashion communities from all over the world.
Protests - which are normally a vibrant feature of COP summits - are likely to be subdued.
Egypt's President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi, in power since 2014, has overseen a widespread crackdown on dissent. Rights groups estimate the country has had as many as 60,000 political prisoners, many detained without trial.
Mr Shoukry has said that space would be set aside in Sharm el-Sheikh for protests to take place. However, Egyptian activists have told the BBC that many local groups had been unable to register for the conference.

 

[ShortForBob]

now what's happened in the last three days?

Hmm lets see.
Security bods tell attendees not to down load Egyp's app because

Pakistan at COP27 demands climate aid, says 'dystopia' already here

Pakistan will not be satisfied unless U.N. climate summit negotiators unlock emergency cash for the country to rebuild after this year's devastating floods, its climate minister said Thursday.

www.reuters.com

and

Pakistan wants climate aid

Pakistan at COP27 demands climate aid, says 'dystopia' already here

Pakistan will not be satisfied unless U.N. climate summit negotiators unlock emergency cash for the country to rebuild after this year's devastating floods, its climate minister said Thursday.

www.reuters.com

have i missed anything @Alan H ?

 

[ShortForBob]

Here you go @Alan H . Knock yourself out.
The official webiste news page

COP27 Official

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[Jules]

Would it have anything to do with the fact that after 27 years of listening to the same old shit in different wrappings combined with near on 40 years of failed catastrophic predictions, that people are sensing the emperor has no cloths?

Or maybe the fact that fossil fuel lobbyists have come in droves to the summit. And next year UAE is hosting. What does that say about the direction things are going?

636 fossil fuel lobbyists granted access to COP27 | Global Witness

New analysis reveals that even more fossil fuel lobbyists are attending COP27 talks than in Glasgow last year

www.globalwitness.org

 

[Mid]

What does that say about the direction things are going?

 

[Jules]

No. It's the other god

 

[Mid]

don't know quite where to start on that one , hope you don't believe it .

Fossil fuels are dead , just going to take a decade to cease wriggling and the longer an individual hangs on to them the greater the pain of separation will be .

 

[Dog 2.0]

don't know quite where to start on that one , hope you don't believe it .

Fossil fuels are dead , just going to take a decade to cease wriggling and the longer an individual hangs on to them the greater the pain of separation will be .

What will replace them? The only viable alternative we have is nukes.

 

[Mid]

nukes are way down the list of alternatives .

what your problem will be is accepting that your current method of living will change .