COP27 climate summit

[Voyageur]

 

[Goodvibes]

True.

Which 'international criminal law'?

Many of them can and will.

Slowly, this is happening through regulation and market forces like ESG. It will not happen through "international criminal law", whatever that is.

Who wrote that, Greta fucking Thunberg when she was 11?

International Law does not apply to America, it is 'Outside the Environment'. American Lawyers do not spend time on what is bullshit to them. Nazi War criminals knew about it though.

International criminal law (ICL)​

International criminal law (ICL) codifies a body of law that defines international crimes such as genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and the crime of aggression, as well as the procedures to be applied before international courts and tribunals. These crimes often take place in the course of conflict, and hence relate directly to humanitarian crisis. In contrast to much international law, ICL does not focus on the conduct of States – it establishes individual criminal responsibility. One of the main sources of ICL is the Rome Statute creating the International Criminal Court (ICC).

 

[MR.CLEAN]

International Law does not apply to America, it is 'Outside the Environment'. American Lawyers do not spend time on what is bullshit to them. Nazi War criminals knew about it though.

International criminal law (ICL)​

International criminal law (ICL) codifies a body of law that defines international crimes such as genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and the crime of aggression, as well as the procedures to be applied before international courts and tribunals. These crimes often take place in the course of conflict, and hence relate directly to humanitarian crisis. In contrast to much international law, ICL does not focus on the conduct of States – it establishes individual criminal responsibility. One of the main sources of ICL is the Rome Statute creating the International Criminal Court (ICC).

Exactly. In other words, it is inapplicable to the situation under discussion. Pearl clutching bullshit for dumb people who want to be OUTRAGED

 

[Goodvibes]

Exactly. In other words, it is inapplicable to the situation under discussion. Pearl clutching bullshit for dumb people who want to be OUTRAGED

Please contact The Massachusetts high court. I'm sure they are not interested in wasting their time and would appreciate your assistance.

In the meantime, back on planet Earth ...
Climate crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ll-be-a-watershed-year-for-climate-litigation

Why 2023 will be a watershed year for climate litigation​

 

[giegs]

Please contact The Massachusetts high court. I'm sure they are not interested in wasting their time and would appreciate your assistance.

In the meantime, back on planet Earth ...
Climate crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ll-be-a-watershed-year-for-climate-litigation

Why 2023 will be a watershed year for climate litigation​

More detail on the Mass case. It makes sense in the context of US law, but calling them "climate crimes" isn't quite it. Unless I'm missing something, it's not nearly as abstract as recent cases on things like acknowledging a river's right to exist in NZ. If someone involved has the juice to to sift through the market ramifications of Exxon's malfeasance and identity parties directly harmed by it, it could be a stepping stone for greater things. I'd be surprised if it amounts to anything more than a cost of doing business fine.

 

[Sisyphus]

Many things effect the earths cycles,
Talk about thousand years ago. this effected the climate,( before man came along)

And at least some of the mechanisms that led to warming and retreating ice then now favor expanding ice, but those mechanisms are being more than offset by anthropogenic forcing, at least according to some science-speaking folks.

Arctic glaciers and ice caps through the Holocene:a circumpolar synthesis of lake-based reconstructions

<p><strong class="journal-contentHeaderColor">Abstract.</strong> The recent retreat of nearly all glaciers and ice caps (GICs) located in Arctic regions is one of the most clear and visible signs of ongoing climate change. This paper synthesizes published records of Holocene GIC fluctuations...

cp.copernicus.org

 

[Gissie]

Who wrote that, Greta fucking Thunberg when she was 11?

More like Random when he was 62...

 

[Not for nothing]

And at least some of the mechanisms that led to warming and retreating ice then now favor expanding ice, but those mechanisms are being more than offset by anthropogenic forcing, at least according to some science-speaking folks.

Arctic glaciers and ice caps through the Holocene:a circumpolar synthesis of lake-based reconstructions

<p><strong class="journal-contentHeaderColor">Abstract.</strong> The recent retreat of nearly all glaciers and ice caps (GICs) located in Arctic regions is one of the most clear and visible signs of ongoing climate change. This paper synthesizes published records of Holocene GIC fluctuations...

cp.copernicus.org

Large glacier near Seattle has ‘completely disappeared,’ says researcher who has tracked it for years​

Large glacier near Seattle has 'completely disappeared,' says researcher who has tracked it for years | CNN

Nestled between the snowy ranges of Mount Rainier and Glacier Peak, a significant glacier in Washington state has disappeared after standing tall, full of snowpack for thousands of years. In this swath of mountain range in the Washington Cascades, the climate crisis has slowly chipped away at...

www.cnn.com

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

More like Random when he was 62...

Intellectually, cognitive ability and actual education, I reckon Greta at 11 would have the edge on Randumb at any age...

FKT

 

[sparau]

 

[sparau]

A lot of things work on a small scale but not on a larger one.

What is the backing store for your grid when the renewable power is insufficient for demand?

From my POV I think the intermittent renewables are way insufficient unless & until they have a reliable backing store of at least 24 hours on full load. At present this is a fantasy unless you either have hydro power, nuclear or fossil fuel plants.

Happy to be corrected but I'd want to see examples on a realistic (say 1 million population centre) basis. And with a decent mix of residential, light industrial and commercial.

FKT

South Australia?
https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/sa-off-grid-renewables/

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

An old favourite of mine has re-surfaced. Maybe now this tech's time has come.

Invented in Australia, this battery never degrades and can last 'forever'. So why haven't we heard of it?

A type of battery invented by an Australian professor in the 1980s is being touted as the next big technology for grid energy storage. Here's how it works.

www.abc.net.au

I've been keeping an eye on it for over 20 years and thought it had been long forgotten as a research success/practical failure. But maybe not.

Things like this, if successful & scaleable, directly address one of my big concerns WRT intermittent renewable energy sources. As I keep saying, you need a reliable and substantial backing store. Crack that and the entire energy supply system changes to more heavily favour the intermittent renewables.

FKT

 

[BeSafe]

A lot of things work on a small scale but not on a larger one.

FKT

Truth. Scale - both in cost and logistics - is always the final barrier. Ironically, fossil works fine at small scale and even medium scale. That's why the world adopted it. Its at large scale that the pollution aspects start to become truly challenging.

Vanadium Flow batteries have been around for a long time and are well known - lots of smart people have worked on them. There are some intrinsic technical challenges without obvious solutions but their ultimate challenge is cost - Vanadium is cheap as long as there isn't a wide spread adoption of vanadium flow batteries. So how much money do you want throw at solving the final technical challenges knowing the cost barrier is always going to be sitting there? Unfortunately, that's true in most storage technology and is one of the big reasons why a truly sustainable answer is far more likely to be a collection of technologies and not just one.

Pumped Hydro is largely considered the cheapest possible storage but comes with environmental and regulatory impact and finding suitable geography isn't trivial. All of the chemical storage approaches are kinda middling - they're more expensive but are easier to site.

Cost though isn't a fixed boundary - it floats around. As the general cost of energy goes up, the competitive advantages of any given technology change.

 

[Dog 2.0]

Climate crimes must be brought to justice​

Climate denial has increased the risk of catastrophic global change. Should international criminal law be used against those who promote this dangerous trend? Economic and political leaders can no longer pretend it is business as usual. Whether they actively induce environmental harm or just ignore the existential threat against the survival of the human species, states and corporations must be held accountable for their actions or inaction regarding climate change.

What is "climate denial"?

 

[3to1]

What is "climate denial"?

slippery little turd 'just asking questions'. smh...

 

[Bagheera]

What is "climate denial"?

You are the definition of it.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Please contact The Massachusetts high court. I'm sure they are not interested in wasting their time and would appreciate your assistance.

1) That's a state law case.
2) That's a civil case.
3) That's an action for false and misleading advertising and maybe civil fraud.

There's nothing international or criminal about it. Use the right words.

 

[Goodvibes]

1) That's a state law case.
2) That's a civil case.
3) That's an action for false and misleading advertising and maybe civil fraud.

There's nothing international or criminal about it. Use the right words.

Please contact The Massachusetts high court. I'm sure that they will appreciate it.

Nice weasel words, didn't work.

 

[d'ranger]

Storage isn't that huge of a challenge and using a variety makes sense - for instance gravity batteries utilizing abandoned wells and mines. It takes a village. Personally I would prefer a neighborhood approach to every home both for generation and storage. We have a trifuel generator that plugs into the house but being the only house on the block with power isn't ideal at all. Of course where I live anything other than individual gets the 'socialism' scare. It's why we can't have nice things.

 

[3to1]

how's the Congo doing with all that cobalt mining?