COP27 climate summit

Bagheera

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As an FYI, here's some of the mechanisms with how the greenhouse effect works.. yea, it's complicated. And yea, I think watching species migrations are a pretty important indicator. Humans adapt, many species can't.
Generally, I agree with this statement but there is an however.
Creatures other than humans can adopt too, fairly easily even. The problem is the time frame that they have to do the adaptation in is now way to short. Normal climate change is an extremely slow process that takes thousands of years. Now we're doing it in 50-60. Most critters can't adapt that fast.
 

Dog 2.0

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There is a cause and there are symptoms. Temperature is a symptom and since most of the energy is absorbed by the ocean and not in the air above it, that is where you need to look for the temperature changes, not in the air.
The cause is in the atmosphere, but that is not where you see the symptoms.
A broken spine can leave your legs paralyzed, the symptoms are in the legs but the cause is in the spine.
Bullshit ... You need to read up on AGW theory which holds that green house gasses in the atmosphere allow short wave radiation to pass but block long wave radiation from escaping. The troposphere is the first thing to warm.
 

phill_nz

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ohhh dog .. you have gone and ruined everything
we had for decades a perfectly serviceable insult by using the term dipstick
everyone knew what it was and what it meant
now we have to change all that because henceforth it has to be known as a dogstick
that was your doing .. yours and yours alone
have you no compassion or respect for tradition ?
 

sparau

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Bullshit ... You need to read up on AGW theory which holds that green house gasses in the atmosphere allow short wave radiation to pass but block long wave radiation from escaping. The troposphere is the first thing to warm.
Honestly, BeSafe beat me to it, watch this, really well explained.
As an FYI, here's some of the mechanisms with how the greenhouse effect works.. yea, it's complicated.

 

Dog 2.0

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ohhh dog .. you have gone and ruined everything
we had for decades a perfectly serviceable insult by using the term dipstick
everyone knew what it was and what it meant
now we have to change all that because henceforth it has to be known as a dogstick
that was your doing .. yours and yours alone
have you no compassion or respect for tradition ?
Nothing
 

Dog 2.0

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There are well over 60.000 peer reviewed studies done on this subject. 99.94% of these studies came to a different conclusion than you do.
Are you suggesting that there are 60,000 studies out there that conclude that the climate models based on AGW theory have predicted global warming accurately? That's bullshit. Even the IPCC acknowledges that the models run hot.
 

sparau

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Are you suggesting that there are 60,000 studies out there that conclude that the climate models based on AGW theory have predicted global warming accurately? That's bullshit. Even the IPCC acknowledges that the models run hot.
No, they suggested to ignore a few models and not just average them all.
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/...are-getting-future-warming-projections-right/

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Bus Driver

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There has been a slight decline in arctic ice. But polar bear populations are very healthy. Every year the ice melts, and the polar bears know how to deal with it. Then it freezes again, and again, they deal with it. They wouldn't be able to even notice the ice decline that we have experienced.
Does this remind anyone else of the old "Tides goes in, tide goes out"?

 



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