Corona Virus

Ex-yachtie

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So, Trump bans travel from Europe to the US (except for his lap dogs the UK).  A natural extension appears to be a restriction in travel from Europe to the UK (something many have been campaigning for, for a long time).

This appears to play havoc with the AC World Series.  Will any Cagliari and Portsmouth happen?

Can NYYC continue to meet the nationality requirements for all of their non-Americans?

Is this the excuse Stars + Stripes need?

 

Xlot

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To.me, the eye opener is the cancellation (? is it confirmed, or just not valid for the World Championship?) of the Melbourne F1 GP and the turmoil on following races

So, forget for one moment travel bans and lockdowns,: assuming Cagliari or Portsmouth were on, all it would take is one team member to test positive to scuttle the event!

The painful reality leaves just two alternatives: either we cancel the ACWS and all teams move now to fortunate Kiwiland, undergo a rigid quarantine and stay there until the Cup races - which at this point might as well be run with existing B1 boats

Or, as it’s being voiced for the Olympics, we simply cancel 2020 and we reconvene in Cagliari in April next year

 

The_Alchemist

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So, Trump bans travel from Europe to the US (except for his lap dogs the UK).  A natural extension appears to be a restriction in travel from Europe to the UK (something many have been campaigning for, for a long time).

This appears to play havoc with the AC World Series.  Will any Cagliari and Portsmouth happen?

Can NYYC continue to meet the nationality requirements for all of their non-Americans?

Is this the excuse Stars + Stripes need?
The travel ban is way too late.  The virus is already wide spread in the US and stopping a few more cases from entering will do nothing.  They need to slow down the spread to make sure it doesn't overwhelm the healthcare system.  The ineptitude of US federal leadership has made it much worse.

I just posted this in another thread:  The idea is that as much as 20% of the case may need medical treatment and if there are too many to treat then people will die because they will not have access to medical care.  Italy had a death rate of about 6.5% in some areas because they could not treat all of the cases.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/science/coronavirus-curve-mitigation-infection.html

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phill_nz

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italy has gone viral with the problem

but

it seems logical that countries that have a high percentage of older people will have a much higher death rate that those countries that have a lower average life span

 

NZL3481

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To.me, the eye opener is the cancellation (? is it confirmed, or just not valid for the World Championship?) of the Melbourne F1 GP and the turmoil on following races

So, forget for one moment travel bans and lockdowns,: assuming Cagliari or Portsmouth were on, all it would take is one team member to test positive to scuttle the event!

The painful reality leaves just two alternatives: either we cancel the ACWS and all teams move now to fortunate Kiwiland, undergo a rigid quarantine and stay there until the Cup races - which at this point might as well be run with existing B1 boats

Or, as it’s being voiced for the Olympics, we simply cancel 2020 and we reconvene in Cagliari in April next year
Many media outlets are reporting this morning (13 March) the Melbourne F1GP has been postponed after a McLaran team member tested positive.

 

SimonN

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Let's be clear on how China cracked it, if they really have. They imprisoned most of the population in the infected areas. People (everybody) were not allowed out of their homes. And they are not sure that they have fully got rid of the virus. Many expect it to kick off again.

The reality is that the ACWS is now dead. Expert prediction (not the press) suggest that the peak of the virus will be in August/September. It is not expected to stop being a global issue until some time next year. The big issue facing the AC is whether the Cup itself will go ahead as currently programmed.

There is an added problem. Has anybody attempted to buy carbon or honeycomb/nomex recently? There is a major global shortage. I know of an F1 team that cannot buy carbon at the moment. Nomex is in very short supply because the main French factory burnt down and there is none coming out of the other main source, China. If teams haven't bought their materials for building their second boats, they are stuffed.

 

chesirecat

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Let's be clear on how China cracked it, if they really have. They imprisoned most of the population in the infected areas. People (everybody) were not allowed out of their homes. And they are not sure that they have fully got rid of the virus. Many expect it to kick off again.

The reality is that the ACWS is now dead. Expert prediction (not the press) suggest that the peak of the virus will be in August/September. It is not expected to stop being a global issue until some time next year. The big issue facing the AC is whether the Cup itself will go ahead as currently programmed.

There is an added problem. Has anybody attempted to buy carbon or honeycomb/nomex recently? There is a major global shortage. I know of an F1 team that cannot buy carbon at the moment. Nomex is in very short supply because the main French factory burnt down and there is none coming out of the other main source, China. If teams haven't bought their materials for building their second boats, they are stuffed.
Not only that they are removing evidence that China is the source of the virus, 

Source

https://www.la-croix.com/Monde/Asie-et-Oceanie/Chine-reecrit-deja-lhistoire-coronavirus-Wuhan-2020-03-09-1201082887

 
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rh3000

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SARS Avian Corona wtf is going on in China.
Consequences of sailing as close to the wind with population densities and capital efficiencies in order to compete and succeed in a global context.

Evidently they are sailing closer than others, but UK gave us mad-cow / Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease too so.... *glass houses etc ;-)

Edit - *I know you ain't British ;-)

 
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Flippin Out

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Reports from TE on FB saying that Luna Rossa has suffered major damage during training today, big gaping hole in the bow !!!

Saying the bob stay broke, the bowsprit flew away taking the nose with it.

 
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So, assuming the numbers being reported by China are accurate, they've cracked it. Well done, China.

Source: DWTV

The speed that curves flattens does make you wonder whether we mightn't soon see the curve heading south so they can report there were actually fewer cases than they've already reported.  Perhaps added to by the Recovered curve climbing to near vertical and surpassing the total number of cases.  ;))) 

Saying that, by all accounts some fairly draconian provisions had to be made to even begin to arrest the spread of Covid-19 in China and the timing of any return to 'normal community life' will presumably need to reflect not only the virus' contagious nature, but its incubation periods and any proactive on-going disinfection programs necessary to limit the existence of the virus at large - not only among the populace.  Of course, that still leaves the re-writing of history regarding the origins of Covid-19 - and the fact that those origins may not even be known - or if they are, then perhaps never disclosed beyond the internal circle whose action or inaction gave rise to this.

Best guess - watch and wait and continue paying attention to best practice avoidance of infection - hands away from face, regular washing with soap, avoiding close contact with others as much as possible, and self isolating on any cold or flu-like symptoms.  Certainly not surfacing in public with any sort of cold or flu symptoms - unlike some who feared needing to self isolate so went to the supermarket to stock up on the way to their medical centre!  Think people.  Think.

 




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