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Mrleft8

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Well..... There was the Rosenbergs, and the guys from south of the Manson/Nixon line..... But yeah.... Ol' Benedict was never actually an American(USA) citizen, so....

 
Lark

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Mrleft8 said:
Well..... There was the Rosenbergs, and the guys from south of the Manson/Nixon line..... But yeah.... Ol' Benedict was never actually an American(USA) citizen, so....
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General Arnold was General Flynn’s roll model,   The secret the modern general learned is not to take a commission when switching allegiances.   

 
Steam Flyer

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Lark said:
General Arnold was General Flynn’s roll model,   The secret the modern general learned is not to take a commission when switching allegiances.   
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Nah, Arnold was easily ten times the general Flynn is. He actually fought and actually won battles. Not only that, he raised funds and recruited and trained soldiers himself. Ironically, the US would almost certainly not have won the 1774~1781 war without him.

Flynn is a marginally-competent snake. I'm sure he must be relatively smart and capable at -something- or the Army would never have promoted him so high, but he seems to have always been ultimately self-serving and dishonest.

- DSK

 
Sol Rosenberg

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Steam Flyer said:
Nah, Arnold was easily ten times the general Flynn is. He actually fought and actually won battles. Not only that, he raised funds and recruited and trained soldiers himself. Ironically, the US would almost certainly not have won the 1774~1781 war without him.

Flynn is a marginally-competent snake. I'm sure he must be relatively smart and capable at -something- or the Army would never have promoted him so high, but he seems to have always been ultimately self-serving and dishonest.

- DSK
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Not sure what happened to Flynn. Wasn't he fired by Obama?  That may have been a triggering incident. 

 
Mark K

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Sol Rosenberg said:
Not sure what happened to Flynn. Wasn't he fired by Obama?  That may have been a triggering incident. 
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Naw, he was fired because everybody at DIA was telling the President the guy was nuts, and had evidence. 

He got in with a stunning display of telling truth-to-power. His bosses (Petraeus and McChrystal) tried to guide the President's decision towards surging in Afghanistan by only presenting options which called for it. Obama sniffed out that rat and called for a long investigation into the viability. Lasted many moons. The pro-surgers did a pretty good job of making only other pro-surgers think tanks the ones that dared express strong opinions, but Flynn, their own boy, went maverick on them. Published a report that strongly indicated it wouldn't work. Obama went for the surge anyway but decided to reward the guy with a promotion which placed him outside of the combat chain of command. About the only fair thing to do considering what his future in the top ranks of of the US military was likely to be after that.  

   He always was nuts he just happened to be a good fit for that war. His mind accurately predicted Jihadi thinking, as it has a similar shallow, ruthless, black-and-white pattern of thought. I imagine he privately admired their purity of essence....so to speak.      

 
Sol Rosenberg

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Seems like an awful lot of people lost the records of their communications from Around 1/6/21. Just a coincidence right bullshitters? Tick took, motherfuckers. Have fun with the grand jury.

The RNC ‘election integrity’ official appearing in DOJ’s Jan. 6 subpoenas​

At least three witnesses in DOJ’s investigation of so-called alternate electors in the 2020 election have received subpoenas demanding communications to and from Joshua Findlay.
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The RNC ‘election integrity’ official appearing in DOJ’s Jan. 6 subpoenas

At least three witnesses in DOJ’s investigation of so-called alternate electors in the 2020 election have received subpoenas demanding communications to and from Joshua Findlay.
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An intriguing new detail on Trump's 'fake' electors​

In recent months, the various investigations into Jan. 6 have increasingly zeroed in on the “fake” electors for President Donald Trump. In states that Trump lost, the fake electors were people who claimed they were duly chosen — something he later tried to leverage to get Vice President Mike Pence to help overturn the election on that fateful day.

But both when they were designated on Dec. 14, 2020, and since, these fake electors have almost always been described as a contingency plan. Dec. 14 was the elector deadline, and the idea was supposedly that they needed to be in place just in case the election results were changed before Jan. 6. Perhaps Trump and Co. later “misuse[d]” the fake electors to try to overturn the election regardless, as Georgia’s fake electors suggested last week in court, but the fake electors themselves shouldn’t be held responsible for that if they had no knowledge of that plan.

New evidence, though, suggests that at least some involved might have understood the fake-elector plan differently — from very early in the process.

A New York Times report details a batch of new emails related to the fake-elector plot. Figuring prominently is a Phoenix-based lawyer who worked with the Trump campaign, Jack Wilenchik. Wilenchik corresponded with Trump campaign adviser Boris Epshteyn and others on Dec. 8, according to the Times report. In one email, he outright refers to the electors as “ ‘fake’ electors,” before later suggesting that a more palatable phrase would be “alternate” electors.

More:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/26/trump-fake-electors-arizona/
 
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Former Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad Wolf changed and delayed an intelligence report detailing Russian interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election, according to a new review by the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) top watchdog.

The decision to deviate from DHS standard review procedures "rais[ed] objectivity concerns," according to the report, and led to the perception that unorthodox interference by a top DHS official was intended to help Donald Trump's reelection bid.

The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) at DHS, through its Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A), released the redacted results of its investigation into Russian interference in the election — "DHS Actions Related to an I&A Intelligence Product Deviated from Standard Procedures" — on Tuesday.




"We found that DHS did not adequately follow its internal processes and comply with applicable [intelligence community] policy standards and requirements when editing and disseminating an I&A intelligence product regarding Russian interference with the 2020 U.S. Presidential election," the DHS OIG report states, in part.

"The acting secretary participated in the review process multiple times despite lacking any formal role in reviewing the product, resulting in the delay of its dissemination on at least one occasion," the DHS inspector general report continued. "The delays and deviation from I & A standard process and requirements put [them] at risk of creating a perception of politicization."


Analysts in DHS' Cyber Mission Center (CYMC) began drafting the original intelligence product titled, "Russia Likely to Denigrate Health of US Candidates to Influence 2020 Electoral Dynamics" in April 2020, to warn state and local governments of a noticeable uptick in Russian state media efforts to question then-candidate President Joe Biden's mental health after Super Tuesday.

The DHS analyst who first raised the concern "believed foreign efforts questioning a candidate's health were worth exploring because they could impact voters' willingness to vote for that candidate and began drafting the product," the OIG report read. "In its initial form, the product was approximately two pages in length and included information relating to one 'current Democratic presidential candidate' and to Russian activities to influence the 2020 U.S. Presidential election."

At a July 8, 2020, meeting, Acting Secretary Chad Wolf — who is referenced to by his title but never named in Tuesday's OIG report — determined that the intelligence document should be "held" because it "made the President look bad," according to a whistleblower complaint.

The whistleblower, Brian Murphy, who was then principal deputy under secretary at I&A, also alleged that Wolf ordered him to shift the focus of future assessments to interference efforts by China and Iran, and that instructions to do so had come from White House national security adviser Robert O'Brien. Murphy declined to comply, he said in the complaint, because "doing so would put the country in substantial and specific danger."


"Russian disinformation was something [DHS leadership] didn't want to report on," Murphy previously told CBS News, in an October 2021 interview. "It mattered. It had a material impact on life and safety of how the events unfolded during 2018 and forward."

"Wolf told me that the plan with respect to the administration was to downplay Russian disinformation, that was supporting the Democrats… and instead, upscale the threat from China," Murphy continued. "That's where the real manipulation by the politicals came into effect. The same thing with Iran. I'm not dismissing China and Iran as threats, particularly in the disinformation space, but they differ on scale and their objectives. The Russians are the best at it. There's no one that even comes close."

Murphy was later reassigned amid reporting that his office compiled "intelligence reports" about journalists and protesters in Portland.

Tuesday's report found that, after months of delay, analysts inserted a "tone box" – a highlighted section of text – detailing efforts by Chinese and Iranian influence actors to amplify unsubstantiated narratives questioning the mental health of former President Donald Trump.

When watchdog investigators probed the CYMC manager on why the additional material – outside the scope of the initial report – was added, the DHS officials contradicted themselves.

"He told us it was a feature intended to draw a contrast between the actions of Russia and those of Iran and China, but also described the tone box as a 'blunting feature' meant to balance the product. When asked whether intelligence products require balancing, he said the addition of the tone box was not politicization, yet also said it showed I & A's political savviness, as the state and local customers of their products tended to be political," the OIG report reads.

The analytic ombudsman from I & A flagged serious concerns with the September version of the intelligence product, noting in his review that "problems with the piece undermine the original message and give the perception of a lack of objectivity or an attempt at political influence."


That assessment also suggested the addition of Iran and China "[seem] to almost avoid the main message that is made explicit in the key judgment — that Russian influence actors are targeting the Democratic candidates in 2020… The tone box on Iran/China seemingly unrelated to the main message are all areas that could be seen as 'being political,' whether intentional or not," the assessment read.

DHS' top watchdog determined that DHS deviated from its own internal requirements for editing and disseminating the report to state and local partners.

"Since January 2021, the [Office of Intelligence and Analysis] has renewed its commitment to continually assess the policies, guidelines and processes that govern the review and dissemination of its finished intelligence products, including to identity and implement and necessary improvements," wrote John Cohen, senior official performing the duties of the under secretary for the office, to Joseph Cuffari, DHS inspector general, in a memo responding to the report.

Cohen has since left his role, which is currently being filled by Melissa Smislova. President Biden's nominee to lead the office, Kenneth Wainstein, is awaiting Senate confirmation.

"This troubling report raises concerns over the prior Administration's inappropriate interference in the review and clearance process for an intelligence product," a DHS spokesperson said in a statement to CBS News. "Under the Biden-Harris Administration and the leadership of Secretary Mayorkas, the Department of Homeland Security is focused on ensuring the safety and security of communities across our country, while conducting our work with integrity and in ways that protect privacy, civil rights, and civil liberties. Since January 2021, DHS has renewed its commitment to providing accurate, timely, and actionable information and intelligence, free from politicization and bias, to the public and our partners across every level of government, in the private sector, and local communities."

Describing its methodology, the DHS watchdog wrote that Wolf requested an interview in writing rather than orally or in-person. According to the report, DHS Senior Official Performing the Duties of the Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli "did not provide any responses despite agreeing to do so."

Wolf resigned his post in January 2021, after the Government Accountability Office and several federal judges deemed that he had served illegally, a judgment that he disputes.
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