Coup Coup Catchyou!

[Mrleft8]

What weapons? Aside from bear spray, spears, bats, tactical batons, (apparently) more than several firearms.? No one was armed except the police....
Nancy Pelosi doesn't have the authority to call in the Nat. Guard. Only the POTUS has that perk.
But on one point you are correct. It wasn't 3 hours. It was 3 hours and 7 minutes..... Imagine that..... 7 minutes.....

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

 

[phillysailor]

Please provide a list of the arms brought into the Capitol by the demonstrators. Include your source.

Thx. You’re making this easy.To quote Newsweek:

Let's start with the gun charges.

In April, 72-year-old Lonnie Coffman of Falkville, Alabama, was sentenced to four years in prison for bringing loaded guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktail ingredients to Washington on Jan. 6.

The weapons were found in his truck—parked less than half a mile from the Capitol building—which he left to attend a rally at the National Mall. A statement by the Department of Justice said Coffman "also carried a loaded handgun and a loaded revolver as he walked around the area that day."

In March 2022, 49-year-old Texan Guy Reffitt, was convicted (among other charges) for being unlawfully present on Capitol grounds while possessing a firearm and transporting firearms during civil disorder.

A Department of Justice indictment from January 2021 also states that Christopher Alberts, Maryland, was found carrying a Taurus G2C semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds on January 6.

Off-duty Drug Enforcement Administration agent Mark Sami Ibrahim, 32, was also indicted by a grand jury for bringing a firearm within the United States Capitol and its grounds.

In an article for Newsweek, Nick Suplina and Justin Wagner of Everytown for Gun Safety said they had identified "12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 who were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses."

A U.S. Capitol Police intelligence division report also found posts on now defunct blog thedonald.win in the lead-up to Jan. 6, which, the report said, contained "several comments [that] promote confronting members of Congress and carrying firearms during the protest."

Further comments on the site included "Bring guns. It's now or never" and "Don't cuck out. This is do or die. Bring your guns."

But while there is clear evidence showing that firearms were indeed brought into the January 6 march, the underlying claim itself is somewhat of a red herring, because it implies that possession of firearms is somehow a condition for an insurrection.

American politics expert Professor Angelia Wilson of the University of Manchester, told Newsweek that insurrection is an act of violent resistance against a civil authority or government, that may involve any weapon or hand-to-hand combat.

"On January 6th, the act of using a crowd-control railing to hit those charged with defending the Capitol building is an act of insurrection," Wilson said.

"Had the protesters reached Vice President Pence, it would not have mattered if they used a gun or a noose, attacking the Vice-President is an act of insurrection.

"There is no doubt that protesters who violently attacked those defending the Capitol on January 6th were committing acts of insurrection."

On this count, there is also plenty of evidence that protesters were carrying other weapons and acted violently towards authorities.

Among the more than 800 people charged in connection with the Jan. 6 riot, more than 85 have been accused of using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
There were also the reports of pipe bombs found near the Capitol before January 6, though the investigation into who was behind them is still ongoing.



I showed you mine, show me yours. Please prove to us that firearms WERE NOT brought into the Capitol. Provide your source please.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

 

[Ishmael]

There were also the reports of pipe bombs found near the Capitol before January 6, though the investigation into who was behind them is still ongoing.

Curiously, that investigation - which is apparently fruitless - was carried out by Trump's chumps in DHS. Maybe they didn't even try, or maybe they gave MTG the pipe bombs to place. Why the fuck are those chumps still in their jobs?

 

[phillysailor]

It wasn't 3 hours, but I agree that Trump made a large mistake by not televising a "go home peacefully" message to the demonstrators sooner.

Not only was it more than 3 hours, but Trump egged on the riot while it was ongoing by Tweeting that he thought Pence lacked courage and let him down.


Rolling Stone in the article

Capitol Rioters ‘Surged’ Immediately After Trump Bashed Pence on Twitter: Jan. 6 Hearing​

reported that Sarah Matthews, Trump supporter and former aide to Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany testified

“The situation was already bad,” Matthews testified. “It felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that.”

She decided to resign after seeing the Tweet..

And protestors at the Capitol testified that the president’s tweet encouraged them to storm the Capitol and find Mike Pence, with violence enxouraged By their president.

So you’ve got Trump supporters inside and outside the riot testifying that Trump actually encouraged the rioters during the insurrection, not just that he failed to act to fulfill his sworn oath to defend America and her Constitution.

Sorry to fuck with your mind, but you’ve had it coming. Ha ha, shithead 😂

But please, quote Tucker some more. He’s a self described entertainer, but you believe him more than sworn testimony and eyewitness accounts.

Why do you hate America?

 

[Stingray~]

Dumbass: "But your Honor, I believed the bank was trying to steal from me, and so I believed I had the right to try bomb and rob the bank."

Judge: "Bombing banks is illegal. It doesn't matter what you believed. [Gravel Drop] Guilty on all counts."

 

[Steam Flyer]

What weapons? Aside from bear spray, spears, bats, tactical batons, (apparently) more than several firearms.? No one was armed except the police....
Nancy Pelosi doesn't have the authority to call in the Nat. Guard. Only the POTUS has that perk.
But on one point you are correct. It wasn't 3 hours. It was 3 hours and 7 minutes..... Imagine that..... 7 minutes.....

per Cassidy Hutchinson (Mark Meadows chief assistant), Trump and Meadows and the entire security staff knew there were a lot of weapons in the crowd, because the crowd was being turned away at the gate with the magnetic weapon detectors.

Trump tried to order them to remove the detectors.

 

[Surfer7]

Actually that is not true. Trump knows quite well he lost the election, as per testimony (ie what you say when you have to tell the truth or suffer consequences) of Ivanka & Jared and several others on his staff.

It is true that I cannot see inside another person's head and know his thoughts. So I will modify my statement by saying 'I believe' that Trump thought the election was stolen. Also, no one else including his daughter and son-in-law can read another person's mind either, even under sworn oath.

I'm still waiting to hear the date of the Levin podcast where you made some libelous comments about him. I'll give you until tomorrow, 6am ET, to either provide the podcast date or retract your statements about him.

 

[Steam Flyer]

It is true that I cannot see inside another person's head and know his thoughts. So I will modify my statement by saying 'I believe' that Trump thought the election was stolen. Also, no one else including his daughter and son-in-law can read another person's mind either, even under sworn oath.

They testified about numerous statements Trump made... which they heard... in which he said he lost, or that Biden won.

....

I'm still waiting to hear the date of the Levin podcast where you made some libelous comments about him....

Really? You want to put Mark Levin in a courtroom where he will suffer legal consequences if he does not tell the truth?

OK, let's go. It'll be a hoot!

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Scroll pass the first 50 seconds or so to miss the part that you will find the most objectionable, bullshitters.

 

[Stingray~]

I will modify my statement by saying 'I believe' that Trump thought the election was stolen.

It doesn't matter if he believed it or not, the coup attempts were still all illegal.

The campaign to spread The Big Lie is equally problematic since if you are spewing things against all evidence of the truth then you are necessarily lying. Whether you believe in that lie or not.

 

[Ishmael]

It doesn't matter if he believed it or not, the coup attempts were still all illegal.

The campaign to spread The Big Lie is equally problematic since if you are spewing things against all evidence of the truth then you are necessarily lying. Whether you believe in that lie or not.

And if you claim to believe that lie against all evidence to the contrary, you have become untethered from reality.

 

[Mrleft8]

It is true that I cannot see inside another person's head and know his thoughts. So I will modify my statement by saying 'I believe' that Trump thought the election was stolen. Also, no one else including his daughter and son-in-law can read another person's mind either, even under sworn oath.

I'm still waiting to hear the date of the Levin podcast where you made some libelous comments about him. I'll give you until tomorrow, 6am ET, to either provide the podcast date or retract your statements about him.

I believe in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, and the perfect woman.

 

[Surfer7]

Really? ... Mark Levin ...

OK, let's go. It'll be a hoot!

Yes really. When a man says something like that about another man then he had better be able to prove it. Or are you just another one of Sol's BS'ers? It would be trivial for you to direct us all to the podcast. Man up or shut up and retract it:

 

[Steam Flyer]

Yes really. When a man says something like that about another man then he had better be able to prove it.....

You want me to PROVE that Mark Levin says things in which he expresses hatred of Nancy Pelosi?

Do you think he likes Nancy Pelosi?

{edit to add} I am not a bit surprised that you have all his podcasts on speed-dial. Go back and read my actual post, dumbass.

 

[SloopJonB]

Don't you love it when the Foxxy Brigade runs with something past the point it is not only proven to be an utter lie, but even FoxxyInc is starting to give up on it

Ron White was more right than he ever imagined.

 

[Surfer7]

Go back and read my actual post

Your memory is short. I'll help you. Here is what you posted:

"For example, on a long drive a couple of days ago, flipping radio channels at random, I listened to Mark Levin for about 15~20 minutes... he was going on and on and on about Nancy Pelosi, with a guest ... They alternated this with commenting about how it would be better for the country if she was dragged out and hanged or beaten to death or raped (this provoked giggles from his guest)."

 

[Surfer7]

Thx. You’re making this easy.To quote Newsweek:

Let's start with the gun charges.

In April, 72-year-old Lonnie Coffman of Falkville, Alabama, was sentenced to four years in prison for bringing loaded guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktail ingredients to Washington on Jan. 6.

The weapons were found in his truck—parked less than half a mile from the Capitol building—which he left to attend a rally at the National Mall. A statement by the Department of Justice said Coffman "also carried a loaded handgun and a loaded revolver as he walked around the area that day."

In March 2022, 49-year-old Texan Guy Reffitt, was convicted (among other charges) for being unlawfully present on Capitol grounds while possessing a firearm and transporting firearms during civil disorder.

A Department of Justice indictment from January 2021 also states that Christopher Alberts, Maryland, was found carrying a Taurus G2C semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds on January 6.

Off-duty Drug Enforcement Administration agent Mark Sami Ibrahim, 32, was also indicted by a grand jury for bringing a firearm within the United States Capitol and its grounds.

In an article for Newsweek, Nick Suplina and Justin Wagner of Everytown for Gun Safety said they had identified "12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 who were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses."

A U.S. Capitol Police intelligence division report also found posts on now defunct blog thedonald.win in the lead-up to Jan. 6, which, the report said, contained "several comments [that] promote confronting members of Congress and carrying firearms during the protest."

Further comments on the site included "Bring guns. It's now or never" and "Don't cuck out. This is do or die. Bring your guns."

But while there is clear evidence showing that firearms were indeed brought into the January 6 march, the underlying claim itself is somewhat of a red herring, because it implies that possession of firearms is somehow a condition for an insurrection.

American politics expert Professor Angelia Wilson of the University of Manchester, told Newsweek that insurrection is an act of violent resistance against a civil authority or government, that may involve any weapon or hand-to-hand combat.

"On January 6th, the act of using a crowd-control railing to hit those charged with defending the Capitol building is an act of insurrection," Wilson said.

"Had the protesters reached Vice President Pence, it would not have mattered if they used a gun or a noose, attacking the Vice-President is an act of insurrection.

"There is no doubt that protesters who violently attacked those defending the Capitol on January 6th were committing acts of insurrection."

On this count, there is also plenty of evidence that protesters were carrying other weapons and acted violently towards authorities.

Among the more than 800 people charged in connection with the Jan. 6 riot, more than 85 have been accused of using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
There were also the reports of pipe bombs found near the Capitol before January 6, though the investigation into who was behind them is still ongoing.



I showed you mine, show me yours. Please prove to us that firearms WERE NOT brought into the Capitol. Provide your source please.

NOTHING you show are proof of guns brought into the Capitol by the protesters.

 

[Steam Flyer]

NOTHING you show are proof of guns brought into the Capitol by the protesters.

And nothing ever will prove it, to you. And you'll be proud of that, I bet.

OTOH there is the facts, then there's bullshit.

Mark Levin has not ever gone into a courtroom and testified as to the truth of the things he says, and I predict he never will. His buddy Cucker Tarlson sort of tried it, but the best he could do was to back off and claim he's an entertainer and that nobody with half a brain would believe his lies.