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Trump requested that at least 10,000 National Guard be present for Jan6 but Bowser rejected the offer.


Trump, National Guard and Jan. 6: The Truth​

• The Pentagon first offered National Guard troops to the Capitol Police on Jan. 2. A Department of Defense official contacted Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a discussion with then-Chief Steve Sund.
• On Sunday, Jan. 3, then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and chief of staff for the Department of Defense Kash Patel met with Trump on national security matters. Toward the end of the meeting, Trump brought up the number of protesters expected on Jan. 6 and discussed making sure it was a safe event by providing a National Guard presence.
Bowser responded: "To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to and consultation with MPD, if such plans are underway"


From a Deroy Murdock Opinion:

Trump's Pre-Jan. 6 Actions Demolish Dems' Coup Fantasy​

Now, The Washington Post reports, the Justice Department has launched a criminal probe regarding Trump’s role in the Jan. 6 chaos and, more broadly, his refusal to roll over and play dead amid widespread doubts about the integrity of the November 2020 general election.

Totally ignored is the thoroughly documented fact that Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops to keep Washington tranquil on Jan. 6.

 
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Surfer7 said:
Trump requested that at least 10,000 National Guard be present for Jan6 but Bowser rejected the offer.


Trump, National Guard and Jan. 6: The Truth​

• The Pentagon first offered National Guard troops to the Capitol Police on Jan. 2. A Department of Defense official contacted Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a discussion with then-Chief Steve Sund.
• On Sunday, Jan. 3, then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and chief of staff for the Department of Defense Kash Patel met with Trump on national security matters. Toward the end of the meeting, Trump brought up the number of protesters expected on Jan. 6 and discussed making sure it was a safe event by providing a National Guard presence.
Bowser responded: "To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to and consultation with MPD, if such plans are underway"


From a Deroy Murdock Opinion:

Trump's Pre-Jan. 6 Actions Demolish Dems' Coup Fantasy​

Now, The Washington Post reports, the Justice Department has launched a criminal probe regarding Trump’s role in the Jan. 6 chaos and, more broadly, his refusal to roll over and play dead amid widespread doubts about the integrity of the November 2020 general election.

Totally ignored is the thoroughly documented fact that Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops to keep Washington tranquil on Jan. 6.

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On his show June 9, Hannity brought on Patel, who has helped drivefalsehoods in the past and has shared social media posts related to the QAnon conspiracy theory.

In contrast to what Miller told Vanity Fair and lawmakers, Patel told Hannity that in the pre-Jan. 6 meeting between Miller and Trump, Trump officially authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops. Patel then claimed that they went to Pelosi and "she refused it all," but he spoke only in vague terms when Hannity pressed for more information.

When PolitiFact emailed Patel for evidence that Trump had formally authorized 20,000 troops and Pelosi had refused it, a spokesperson pointed to the Defense Department’s IG report and to the department’s timeline for security planning on Jan. 6, 2021.

Those documents, along with a bipartisan report from the Senate, indicate that members of the Capitol Police Board did have conversations in advance of the Jan. 6 attack about the possibility of seeking more National Guard support. The Pentagon communicated with the Capitol Police to see if they would require further assistance, the documents show, but no additional requests were made; the Senate report said the Capitol Police Board members "did not appear to be fully familiar with the statutory and regulatory requirements for requesting National Guard support."

The Capitol Police Board includes the Capitol Police chief and the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, who report respectively to the House speaker and the Senate majority leader.

But neither document makes any reference to a request or authorization of 20,000 National Guard troops, or to Pelosi blocking one.

Paul Irving, then the House Sergeant at Arms, testified in February 2021 that he did not speak with congressional leadership about potentially bringing in National Guard support until Jan. 6.

Plus, the Senate majority leader at the time was Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. — not Schumer.

"Had President Trump ordered 20,000 National Guard soldiers to the Capitol before Jan. 6, it would have happened," said Dwight Stirling, the founder and CEO of the Center for Law and Military Policy. "No one can prevent a presidential order from being followed with regard to where troops go or what they do. That it didn’t occur is evidence that no such order was issued."

Our ruling
Hannity said, "Donald Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol" before Jan. 6, 2021, but was "rejected" by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

There is no record of Trump formally authorizing 20,000 National Guard troops prior to the Jan. 6 attack. There is also no record of Pelosi rejecting such an authorization — and experts said she would not have had the authority to do so as House speaker.

We rate Hannity’s claim False.

www.politifact.com

PolitiFact - No evidence Pelosi ‘rejected’ Trump’s authorization for ‘20,000 National Guard’ before Jan. 6 attack

Twenty million Americans tuned in June 9 as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
 
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badlatitude said:
On his show June 9, Hannity brought on Patel, who has helped drivefalsehoods in the past and has shared social media posts related to the QAnon conspiracy theory.

In contrast to what Miller told Vanity Fair and lawmakers, Patel told Hannity that in the pre-Jan. 6 meeting between Miller and Trump, Trump officially authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops. Patel then claimed that they went to Pelosi and "she refused it all," but he spoke only in vague terms when Hannity pressed for more information.

When PolitiFact emailed Patel for evidence that Trump had formally authorized 20,000 troops and Pelosi had refused it, a spokesperson pointed to the Defense Department’s IG report and to the department’s timeline for security planning on Jan. 6, 2021.

Those documents, along with a bipartisan report from the Senate, indicate that members of the Capitol Police Board did have conversations in advance of the Jan. 6 attack about the possibility of seeking more National Guard support. The Pentagon communicated with the Capitol Police to see if they would require further assistance, the documents show, but no additional requests were made; the Senate report said the Capitol Police Board members "did not appear to be fully familiar with the statutory and regulatory requirements for requesting National Guard support."

The Capitol Police Board includes the Capitol Police chief and the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, who report respectively to the House speaker and the Senate majority leader.

But neither document makes any reference to a request or authorization of 20,000 National Guard troops, or to Pelosi blocking one.

Paul Irving, then the House Sergeant at Arms, testified in February 2021 that he did not speak with congressional leadership about potentially bringing in National Guard support until Jan. 6.

Plus, the Senate majority leader at the time was Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. — not Schumer.

"Had President Trump ordered 20,000 National Guard soldiers to the Capitol before Jan. 6, it would have happened," said Dwight Stirling, the founder and CEO of the Center for Law and Military Policy. "No one can prevent a presidential order from being followed with regard to where troops go or what they do. That it didn’t occur is evidence that no such order was issued."

Our ruling
Hannity said, "Donald Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol" before Jan. 6, 2021, but was "rejected" by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

There is no record of Trump formally authorizing 20,000 National Guard troops prior to the Jan. 6 attack. There is also no record of Pelosi rejecting such an authorization — and experts said she would not have had the authority to do so as House speaker.

We rate Hannity’s claim False.

www.politifact.com

PolitiFact - No evidence Pelosi ‘rejected’ Trump’s authorization for ‘20,000 National Guard’ before Jan. 6 attack

Twenty million Americans tuned in June 9 as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
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Someone is lying. The Jan6 committee has not gone near the above issue because they do not want to know the truth about it.

Bowser should be subpoenaed along with the House Sergeant at Arms and the Capitol Police Chief and perhaps others for questioning as to why the offer to supply at least 10,000 National Guard was rejected many days in advance of Jan 6.. But, again, this will not happen under the Jan6 committee because that line of questioning and truth seeking is not what they want. They want instead to cover it up.
 
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And, to nobody's surprise, Trump is going to blame anyone/everyone else.

Donald Trump’s lawyers are preemptively preparing a legal defense against criminal charges from the Justice Department, as the former president’s lawyers are increasingly anxious that their client will be prosecuted for his role in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election.
Members of the ex-president’s legal team have already begun brainstorming strategy and potential defenses, according to three people familiar with the matter and written communications reviewed by Rolling Stone. Trump himself has been briefed on potential legal defenses on at least two occasions this summer, two of the sources say.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-lawyers-planning-for-charges-1390669/
 
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Surfer7 said:
Someone is lying. The Jan6 committee has not gone near the above issue because they do not want to know the truth about it.

Bowser should be subpoenaed along with the House Sergeant at Arms and the Capitol Police Chief and perhaps others for questioning as to why the offer to supply at least 10,000 National Guard was rejected many days in advance of Jan 6.. But, again, this will not happen under the Jan6 committee because that line of questioning and truth seeking is not what they want. They want instead to cover it up.
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A callup of 20,000 troops would have been the largest activation in US history. It would have been all over the news, it isn't all over the news because it never happened.
 
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So many conspiracy theories, so little time, tell you what Surf you monitor them for us and get back to us when one of your theories bears verifiable fruit, you know the sort of stuff uttered under oath in a court of law, until then its just bullshit.
 
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badlatitude said:
it isn't all over the news because it never happened.
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What's "all over the news or not" has little to do with reality.

Trump Russia collusion was "all over the news" for 4 years. Finally debunked.

Hunter Biden's laptop was debunked as non-existent and fake news prior to the 2020 elections and for nearly 1.5 years afterwards. Now we know it is fact.

Again, the sham Jan6 committee has never, and will never, ask questions about the availability of the National Guard (be it 10,000 or 20,000).
 
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Dear inSurferable7 - the GOP don't do the GOP - that ended with Nixon resigning. Trump is now facing criminal charges and his attorneys are preparing for that. There are exactly 2 Republicans who have stood up to TFG and Liz Cheney is being punished by her party for it. One thing TFG said that is absolutely true - he loves the uneducated.
 
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Shocking that there are Attorneys out there that will represent the POS!!

Not just because he is obviously guilty as sin, but because he doesn't pay his bills??
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republican donors pay the bills. 75% of them are over 65.

Indian ransomware call centers send a phone number out to their potential victims. The first question they have to answer is "Press 1 if you are over 65. Press 2 if you are under 65." All the under 65 calls are disconnected immediately.

I don't know whether the scammers taught the republicans or vice versa, but it's good to see them sharing M.O.s
 
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Surfer7 said:
If it was proven that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians to illegally steal the 2016 POTUS election then why wasn't Trump criminally charged?

No more responses from me with opinion BS like that.
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Charges of illegally stolen elections are coming from Republicans, not Democrats. Illegally stealing the election was not the allegation against Trump. Colluding with Russia was.

Read the fucking reports, not the commentary about them before you go spouting off.
 
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