Covid/2022

Fakenews

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Thanks. His spirits are remarkably good. He is getting better, but has a long road, ahead.
Glad to hear his condition is improving. several promising treatments out there..


for Boosted vaxed relatively healthy people the flu is the bigger threat. A friend just got done with a cruise with his parents (11 days). Much of the ship was sick with the flu he noticed a lot of people getting food delivered to the cabins. Why one would go on a cruise right now is beyond me but they didn’t get sick.
 
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he single group of adults most likely to be unvaccinated is Republicans: 37 percent of Republicans are still unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated, compared with 9 percent of Democrats.

Also here in Desatan land less R's wore masks
Dec 6, 2022 — TALLAHASSEE - More than 83,000 Florida residents have died of COVID-19 since the pandemic started in 2020, and that # is less due to Desatan rigging the numbers
 

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@Clove Hitch may have some insight on this. I have had 5 shots, thus far. All Moderna. Each and every time, I had side effects wash over me like a wave. Headache, body aches, chills, fever (first 4 times). It was like having the flu hit you like Mike Tyson, and then everything vaporizes within 18-30 hours.

I have had COVID twice (that I know of). Completely asymptomatic. Never felt a thing. Just popped a positive PCR test at work.

Can anyone help that make sense to me?
 

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@Clove Hitch may have some insight on this. I have had 5 shots, thus far. All Moderna. Each and every time, I had side effects wash over me like a wave. Headache, body aches, chills, fever (first 4 times). It was like having the flu hit you like Mike Tyson, and then everything vaporizes within 18-30 hours.

I have had COVID twice (that I know of). Completely asymptomatic. Never felt a thing. Just popped a positive PCR test at work.

Can anyone help that make sense to me?
You had virus genetic material where the swab rubbed your throat and nose.

That doesn't necessarily mean your were actually infected. Or your immune system was super quick at attacking the virus before it got a toe hold.

Either are pretty fucking good.
 

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You had virus genetic material where the swab rubbed your throat and nose.

That doesn't necessarily mean your were actually infected. Or your immune system was super quick at attacking the virus before it got a toe hold.

Either are pretty fucking good.
Twasn't a swab test. It was PCR. Blood test from the JHU study my wife and I participated in showed ridiculous levels of antibodies. Here's my level, compared to the "normal range".

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Twasn't a swab test. It was PCR. Blood test from the JHU study my wife and I participated in showed ridiculous levels of antibodies. Here's my level, compared to the "normal range".

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So an antibody test, not a PCR test?
They are different.


I'm not sure exactly which antibodies you possess. They could be a result of infection or they could be a result of the vaccines.

The first sentence is accurate, the final paragraph should probably be discussed with someone who knows a lot more than me...
 

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So an antibody test, not a PCR test?
They are different.


I'm not sure exactly which antibodies you possess. They could be a result of infection or they could be a result of the vaccines.

The first sentence is accurate, the final paragraph should probably be discussed with someone who knows a lot more than me...
Both "positives" were from PCR tests done at school.

The antibody test was from a study done with JHU Medicine. After the study ended in August, we sat down with the PI and he shared the level of anti-bodies I displayed were far above what they expect from vaccination.
 

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Both "positives" were from PCR tests done at school.

The antibody test was from a study done with JHU Medicine. After the study ended in August, we sat down with the PI and he shared the level of anti-bodies I displayed were far above what they expect from vaccination.
Seems the vaccines were effective and you have a good immune system.


Gotta love science!
 

Clove Hitch

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@Clove Hitch may have some insight on this. I have had 5 shots, thus far. All Moderna. Each and every time, I had side effects wash over me like a wave. Headache, body aches, chills, fever (first 4 times). It was like having the flu hit you like Mike Tyson, and then everything vaporizes within 18-30 hours.

I have had COVID twice (that I know of). Completely asymptomatic. Never felt a thing. Just popped a positive PCR test at work.

Can anyone help that make sense to me?
You can test positive with a PCR for 90 days after an infection. Long after you are no longer contagious or symptomatic. So it's possible you had it well before the PCR

One of the interesting things is that in the first year of the pandemic we thought that pcrs were the only good test and that rapid antigen tests were trash. Now we mostly rely on rapid antigen tests

With your reaction to the moderna I would get the Pfizer next time should you need another booster. Many medical professionals are recommending you mix up the boosters but I haven't read any hard research on that even though I have done it myself
 

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@Clove Hitch may have some insight on this. I have had 5 shots, thus far. All Moderna. Each and every time, I had side effects wash over me like a wave. Headache, body aches, chills, fever (first 4 times). It was like having the flu hit you like Mike Tyson, and then everything vaporizes within 18-30 hours.

I have had COVID twice (that I know of). Completely asymptomatic. Never felt a thing. Just popped a positive PCR test at work.

Can anyone help that make sense to me?

That is interesting? We had five shots, all Modena except the last bivalent which was Pfizers. Neiher of us felt any ill effects from any of the shots. I don't understand the different tests mentioned. We have home tests where one swabs the nose and tests with a liquid reactant; what is a PCR test please? As far as we know we have yet to get Covid, even asymptomatic. We are of good health at 67 and 72.

EDIT - I am wondering when we will have an Omicron, or newer variant specific shot, but keep forgetting to ask our MD's?
 

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That is interesting? We had five shots, all Modena except the last bivalent which was Pfizers. Neiher of us felt any ill effects from any of the shots. I don't understand the different tests mentioned. We have home tests where one swabs the nose and tests with a liquid reactant; what is a PCR test please? As far as we know we have yet to get Covid, even asymptomatic. We are of good health at 67 and 72.
Any tests you do at home is a rapid antigen. A PCR takes equipment. By now there might be an at-home PCR test but I don't know of any

A rapid Antigen test is looking for actual chunks of the virus. The virus itself. A PCR is detecting scraps of viral genetic material. So when a virus is destroyed and it's bits are still in your body a PCR will detect that. It's super sensitive. That's why people test positive on a PCR for months after an infection.

In general but not always you need to be symptomatic for a rapid antigen test to detect the virus. But I have seen asymptomatic people test positive with my own eyes
 

Clove Hitch

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Both "positives" were from PCR tests done at school.

The antibody test was from a study done with JHU Medicine. After the study ended in August, we sat down with the PI and he shared the level of anti-bodies I displayed were far above what they expect from vaccination.
The big question was how long antibodies last after infection. Turned out- not as long as we'd hoped!. That's why they were measuring your antibodies.
 

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@Clove Hitch may have some insight on this. I have had 5 shots, thus far. All Moderna. Each and every time, I had side effects wash over me like a wave. Headache, body aches, chills, fever (first 4 times).
I had COVID in April '20 and it sucked for 3-4 days and moderated. I was vaccinated (Moderna) the day it was available for me (65 now). Tired and slept but that was all. Have had every shot since (all Moderna) and only reacted to number 2 (flu-like reaction). Boosters luckily were a big nothing. I try to give blood every 8 weeks (O-), and one of their tests showed the presence of antibodies, so unless this is the greatest conspiracy ever, the vaccines weren't saline. I tested positive early this year and was totally asymptomatic...either having had it or the vaccines protected me.

This is the new order and you either get on board with the science or face a greater risk of dying. Anyone who cannot infer that from the numbers probably shouldn't live. I will always weigh the benefits/risks, but will side with credible recommendations. We will face new risks in the future, and I hope every non-vaxxer has learned their lesson.
 
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Clove Hitch

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That is interesting? We had five shots, all Modena except the last bivalent which was Pfizers. Neiher of us felt any ill effects from any of the shots. I don't understand the different tests mentioned. We have home tests where one swabs the nose and tests with a liquid reactant; what is a PCR test please? As far as we know we have yet to get Covid, even asymptomatic. We are of good health at 67 and 72.

EDIT - I am wondering when we will have an Omicron, or newer variant specific shot, but keep forgetting to ask our MD's?
We have had them for a couple months!
 

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You can test positive with a PCR for 90 days after an infection. Long after you are no longer contagious or symptomatic. So it's possible you had it well before the PCR

One of the interesting things is that in the first year of the pandemic we thought that pcrs were the only good test and that rapid antigen tests were trash. Now we mostly rely on rapid antigen tests

With your reaction to the moderna I would get the Pfizer next time should you need another booster. Many medical professionals are recommending you mix up the boosters but I haven't read any hard research on that even though I have done it myself
Yeah. My first positive PCR was last January, upon return from Winter Break. Mind you, we'd been testing at home since the prior Thanksgiving (what with the kids coming home from college and worry about bringing something to my Mother-in-Law). All rapids were negative. PI at Hopkins wondered if I had it in October, early November (again, asymptomatic) and it just showed as positive within that 90 day window. I wasn't allowed to test at school for 90 after the positive, as who knows how long it'd show positive.

Work provided the first 2 shots, and I got what they gave - Moderna. Tried to get Pfizer for one of the boosters, and nothing around me had them (weird).

My wife was in the Astra-Zeneca study and had that vaccine (she thought she had the placebo) in November and December, 2020. Then, she got the Moderna for 2 boosters. She also did the JHU study (C4ward), and her antibody levels were 1/4 of mine.

I find all oif this stuff fascinating.
 

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@Clove Hitch may have some insight on this. I have had 5 shots, thus far. All Moderna. Each and every time, I had side effects wash over me like a wave. Headache, body aches, chills, fever (first 4 times). It was like having the flu hit you like Mike Tyson, and then everything vaporizes within 18-30 hours.

I have had COVID twice (that I know of). Completely asymptomatic. Never felt a thing. Just popped a positive PCR test at work.

Can anyone help that make sense to me?
The vaccine is working for you. I know that sounds strange, but the vaccine revs up your immune system, that’s what the symptoms are. Then, it’s adequately prepped for the actual virus and deals with it easily.
 
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