Bus Driver
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Yeah. When I described my experiences with the first 2 shots, the PI in the study said I had an "enthusiastic response", and that is a good thing.
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Steam Flyer
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I dunno if it makes any sense, but what we think of as symptoms of cold/flu are actually due to the body's immune system throttling up. Your temperature rises because pathogens reproduce slower at higher temps while T-cells and other fighters both reproduce faster and it's easier for them to kill pathogens. The lungs and respiratory tissues produce lots of mucus to flush out pathogens and also clear dead cells lining the airway. I forget the reason for headaches and joints aching but that's the immune system doing that too.
So what's happening is that you get the vaccine, and your immune system goes "RED ALERT!! BATTLE STATIONS!!" and it hurts. Then the disease itself comes along and your body says, meh, this is easy.
And the trumpalos keep right on insisting that "the vaccines don't work."
billy backstay
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So by that logic, if we felt no ill effects from any of the 5 shots we might not be fully protected??
Blue Crab
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My Moderna response was too enthusiastic for my tastes. The first two had me down for two + straight days ... and then on the third day I "felt" the fever dissipate. Really, over a few minutes I went from sweaty fever to feeling human again. This last booster, the bivalent, and 5th one, so far, kicked my butt for about 12 hours.
For me, it was listen to TFG or Fauci. Easy peasy. Most of my buds, all tough old birds, chose not to be vaccinated. Several got sick, none in my circle died tho we all knew folks who kicked ... all oldsters. Too dumb to be scared.
I’m no Dr, but some of what I’ve read states all people are different in their reaction, but that the vaccine is highly effective.
Interesting experiences. My first two shots were Pfizer, and I didn't feel them going in, no symptoms at all. My second two were Moderna, and they both hurt like hell going in, my arm was sore for a few days after each one. My last shot was the Pfizer bivalent, and it was like the first two. As far as I know, I have never had Covid.
Leeroy Jenkins
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I was 3X Pfizer with no side effects whatsoever. The Moderna bivalent kicked my ass.
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Good.
This country is arguably overcrowded, especially with fat stupid people.
What we need is a plague with a high fatality rate, kill off huge numbers of the people who have been convinced that avoiding the plague is for libtards.
This country is arguably overcrowded, especially with fat stupid people.
What we need is a plague with a high fatality rate, kill off huge numbers of the people who have been convinced that avoiding the plague is for libtards.
Not for nothing
Super Anarchist
will Desatan allow the R's to wear masks or will all the R's die
Steam Flyer
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I feel bad for them, and would like to welcome them back to humanity, but I'm increasingly adamant about not letting them drag me and my family into their shit-pit
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That should be easy with a 50% death rate for the unvaccinated.
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I should add that this is not a call to arms. However, if the Houston case expands then I would tighten up as we did at the beginning of covid and I would call my doctor for advice on vaccines. At present, I do know there is no MRNa development for this at the moment, but there are other choices available if it comes to that.
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Even mayonnaise would work for the right believer.
Dervish
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From Wall Street Journal:
WASHINGTON—The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.
The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.
The new report highlights how different parts of the intelligence community have arrived at disparate judgments about the pandemic’s origin. The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.
The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.
www.wsj.com
WASHINGTON—The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.
The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.
The new report highlights how different parts of the intelligence community have arrived at disparate judgments about the pandemic’s origin. The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.
The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.
WSJ News Exclusive | Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, Energy Department Now Says
The Energy Department joins the FBI in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.
www.wsj.com
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
From Wall Street Journal:
WASHINGTON—The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.
The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.
The new report highlights how different parts of the intelligence community have arrived at disparate judgments about the pandemic’s origin. The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.
The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.
WSJ News Exclusive | Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, Energy Department Now Says
The Energy Department joins the FBI in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.
Unfortunately paywalled. I'd like to hear/read further details.
this was a big big topic on this mornings' talk-talk news. All the pro-Republican talking heads were ballyhooing that they were RIGHT ALL ALONG, they knew it was those sneaky-ass Chinks from the beginning.
My question is, what is known now and how was it learned, that was not known last year when the greater concensus of informed opinion was the covid virus came into humans from the wild?
One important point that got shouted down by the pro-Republican is that saying the virus got transmitted to humans via a lab leak is not the same thing as saying that the virus is artificial in origin.
Olsonist
Disgusting Liberal Elitist
“The Energy Department made its judgment with “low confidence,” according to people who have read the classified report.”
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
Yeah, I have not been able to find any news facts upon which investigators base this switch. Still looking. But this would be a really really bad time to have Dog2 proven correct about repeating bullshit over and over and over until it's accepted as "truth."
