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BobBill
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@Steve Clark what do you think of this '91 Vanguard. Set up a friend to race this one at the Finn PCCs next weekend. He's pretty stoked.
Steve Clark
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Looks like a nice boat, mainsheet cleat is unusual, but individual taste is what it is.
There is plenty of original equipment, like the hiking straps! And all the cleats and blocks, so I’m thinking it has spent more time sitting than sailing. Deck collar has been upgraded and looks like whoever did it at least did a nice gel coat repair. Not easy with grey gel coat....
BobBill: our tests were done with ( I don’t remember how many) kg hanging from the mid length. 3/4-1/2-1/4 deflection fore and aft as well as side to side were taken. Interestingly, individual measures were consistent within their own dataset, but there were differences between each measures data sets. Even when using the same set up and equipment. We imported all the Needlespars into North America, and as Chip was racing Finns at the time, he measured every Finn mast we sold for 10 years.
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There is plenty of original equipment, like the hiking straps! And all the cleats and blocks, so I’m thinking it has spent more time sitting than sailing. Deck collar has been upgraded and looks like whoever did it at least did a nice gel coat repair. Not easy with grey gel coat....
BobBill: our tests were done with ( I don’t remember how many) kg hanging from the mid length. 3/4-1/2-1/4 deflection fore and aft as well as side to side were taken. Interestingly, individual measures were consistent within their own dataset, but there were differences between each measures data sets. Even when using the same set up and equipment. We imported all the Needlespars into North America, and as Chip was racing Finns at the time, he measured every Finn mast we sold for 10 years.
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Steve Clark
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On further review, I retract the deck collar comment. The deck collar adjustment was made after we stopped building Finns, so the deck mold was never modified. Standard Finn mainsheet cleats are one on each side tank and that weird upside down one on thwart. That was so you could pump 2:1. At the time you weren’t allowed to pump 1:1. So you would use that cleat to block half the mainsheet purchase like so: round mark and let the main way the hell out, put the next to last fall in the cleat and pump away.
I think this is unnecessary in the modern age of athletic sailing. ISAF was still mired in “ the sport of gentlemen” mindset in the 90’s and throwing people out of races for pumping. I guess they still do when it isn’t blowing hard enough.
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I think this is unnecessary in the modern age of athletic sailing. ISAF was still mired in “ the sport of gentlemen” mindset in the 90’s and throwing people out of races for pumping. I guess they still do when it isn’t blowing hard enough.
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BobBill
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I think, Finn and Meter contests are still gentlemanly...my personal O.
Mr. Clark, me also thinks a Finn has too many strings, and the mast-fussing unnecessarily complicated...to me, and have been known to be wrong, a stiff hull with even old wood spar that is well-managed will "do it" or win, adjustable or not!
That be a "strut" we see? Though Finns allowed chines...maybe that is OK Dinghies?...I get confused like sting pulling.
Simple isn't best in the beginning???
Still, WCB, aside from the cleats, (string-checks) that have always intimidated this old swab "Nica bateau!"
Please post eventual outcome! Interested in the what and whys.
Mr. Clark, me also thinks a Finn has too many strings, and the mast-fussing unnecessarily complicated...to me, and have been known to be wrong, a stiff hull with even old wood spar that is well-managed will "do it" or win, adjustable or not!
That be a "strut" we see? Though Finns allowed chines...maybe that is OK Dinghies?...I get confused like sting pulling.
Simple isn't best in the beginning???
Still, WCB, aside from the cleats, (string-checks) that have always intimidated this old swab "Nica bateau!"
Please post eventual outcome! Interested in the what and whys.
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Steve Clark
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from front to back:
Top rank vang cunningham, outhaul, inhaul. Don't have to be in that order. There is a hole plate on the front of the trunk with 082 bullet blocks on it. All controls have are tied to a bullet block under the foredeck and the control line is split to either side. you have to dick around to get the lengths right.
The lines pass through a holes in the mast collar and down to 4 blocks on the back if the mast step and are then tied the block on the spliter.
Inhaul is a Finn only thing. I'm not sure why it exists but it always has.
Lower rank is CB up and traveler.
Under the thwart is hiking strap length.
Layout was designed by Harken, so if there was a place to put a Harken block there is a Harken block. This was also in the stone age before Dynemma, so everything looks oversize because we used 3/16 and 1/4" tails on all the control systems. I'm sure a modern Finn looks less clunky.
You can see what I mean about clearance to drill the CB pivot hole.
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Steve Clark
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Also notice the nice feature of how the bailers are installed.
A molded plate is bonded to the inside of the hull to capture the flanges of the bailer. So there are no fasteners that need to be faired /puttied on the outside.
SHC
A molded plate is bonded to the inside of the hull to capture the flanges of the bailer. So there are no fasteners that need to be faired /puttied on the outside.
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Steve Clark
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I haven't thought about Finns since Barcelona. So I may be full of shit.
To do anything withj the centerboard pivot you are going to need something like this and some specially shortened drill bits.
You may have to shorten them yourself and its still going to suck.
SHC
To do anything withj the centerboard pivot you are going to need something like this and some specially shortened drill bits.
You may have to shorten them yourself and its still going to suck.
SHC
koolkat505
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But IF you are a true yuppie flyfisher, that bamboo rod is it, regardless how it casts.......
WCB
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AMF Apollo in Indiana on Crankyape auction site. $25 starting bid and no bids yet.
AMF Apollo in Indiana
AMF Apollo in Indiana
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Blaise
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Not a dinghy, but it is the first time I hear that one of the boats built with the 2010 limited run of 10 pairs of hulls hits the market. I drooled over a set when I still had my hobbie...
https://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/boa/d/hurst-2010-custom-hobie-18/7170390675.html
https://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/boa/d/hurst-2010-custom-hobie-18/7170390675.html
hoofhearted
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Another cat, rigged for wind....
https://frederick.craigslist.org/boa/d/walkersville-hobie-16/7195358282.html
https://frederick.craigslist.org/boa/d/walkersville-hobie-16/7195358282.html
1972 Javelin in what appears to be good shape (Rhode Island).
https://www.sailboatlistings.com/photographs/88232
https://www.sailboatlistings.com/photographs/88232
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