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How would you register a boat purchased from from someone in a state that neither titles nor registers sailing dinghies?

This will not apply to all States, North Carolina is simple to register Craft and Trailer.
Using the HID Number or declaring the Vessel "Hand Made" should work in most cases.
With the Trailer, take it to a Truck Scale (Certified Scale) and weigh it alone, get the Certified receipt - should be enough. It's all about the Clerk Calculating Taxes so that the Tags can be issued.

I repatriated a Canadian FD to Florida. It was purchased in the Fall of 2020,
The St. Johns County FL. Clerk laid it out quite clearly what that they would require.
Title to Boat and Trailer, Bill of Sale, Copy of Payment Check (Proof of Payment).

The Title (in this case we were able to locate the Original Title (U.S.) which was transferred to the Canadian). He did not register the Boat, and the Original Boat's Title's 'Transfer of Ownership' area was filled out (assigned to him) signed and Dated. Had it not, we could have filled it out with My info and that would be that.

Being so, He had to register the Boat with his Provence's Authority [BC Can.], He also could of Ordered a Title but since he had already gotten a Bill of Sale executed and my Bank Cashiers Check as Proof of Payment, the Canadian Clerk allowed him to Cancel the Registration at the same time.

That's a bit confusing but basically, He Registered the Boat (Paid the Canadian Taxes) and then then Registration was Canceled to show that He no longer owned the Boat and it was Sold to Me. Thus we had a 'Paper Trail' that was need for the Florida Clerk and U.S. Customs (About $350 CAN).

There were two more issues that need to be address.
The Lindsay FD was manufactured without a HID (Hull Identification Number), Remember that these Boats were Olympic Racing Boats handmade by Mark Lindsay/Larry Tuttle and didn't need to put HID placards on. (if he did they would be on the right corner of the Stern - If you do find one, I would appreciated a photo), Not a big Problem if you explain to the Clerk that these Boats are "Racing Boats" like a NASCAR Racing Car, there are no Production VINs and each and are "Hand Made". But having the Original Title that proved that this was an American Made Boat and showed that the Manufacture and First Buyer indeed registered and transfer Ownership correctly was bennifical.

The Trailer was in a similar situation, In my case this Trailer was a "Hand Made" (modified to fit the Boat), there was no Manufactures Tag - Serial Number. The Florida Clerk required that the Trailer be weighed (Alone) on a Certified Scale. This is so they can figure the Road Tax and Issue a Tag/Plate.

I understand that some Trailers are registered in North Carolina because they don't require a Manufactures Serial Tag, so they can get a Title (Check out the State Rules around you).

Taxes and Paper Trail takes some Foot Work, if you have a Cooperative Seller and Buyer this can be done with time.

In my case, the Covid Embargo stalled the picking up the Boat and bringing it back home for 1.5 years - It's was worth it.

As far as the Boat on Craigslist - I emailed him but did not receive a reply. They probably want to do a Canadian-to-Canadian Sale.

IMHO: Not to be Mean, but If you love your Class and it is so limited in number (such as the American FD Class), please consider the trouble it creates when selling these Boats out of the Country, because if it a hassle getting them Repatriated.
Again, no offense to the Canadians, it's just how it is these Days - Isn't It.
 
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Foredeck Shuffle

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Laser near Concord. Unsure about the price as $4.9K is a lot for a Laser that appears that old. Likely priced at more than it cost when it was new. Seems like this is an early 90's hull due to the way it is painted up to the hull/deck joint? Says like new only sailed once, which is odd as it has a modern traveler and the bridle for the centerboard. Could be a reasonable find if the price can be negotiated down.


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Foredeck Shuffle

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Nigh indestructible from appearances. Gaff and stay rigged, catboat, scow like cathedral hull bow, aluminum foils with aluminum trunk and tiller, aluminum railed, 12' beast. $575 OBO.


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Foredeck Shuffle

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A club or business appears to be selling 7 Topaz Rangers, $5,500/each.


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Foredeck Shuffle

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You'll never get into a Lightning cheaper than this. $1,900 and wood but if this is the boat I think it is, it was always well kept. I think I raced with the owner back in the 00's. Cannot find the photos I have from a NC Kerr Lake Borderline Regatta I did with him back then. It was always kept mint. Photo's still look nice.


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Foredeck Shuffle

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If sailing is just a hobby for you but your real love is refinishing wood then your interests have converged into one opportunity. Only $5000 for this mahogany beauty.


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Foredeck Shuffle

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Old Laser with Sailz foiling kit in MD, $2950. A new Sailz kit is around $2300 before taxes and shipping to the US is included. I reached out to see if the kit could be split from the Laser. I suspect the C8 rig might be the right way to make the Laser foil without it having to blow 12kts+ and only on a reach? Maybe the C6?


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Steam Flyer

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You'll never get into a Lightning cheaper than this. $1,900 and wood but if this is the boat I think it is, it was always well kept. I think I raced with the owner back in the 00's. Cannot find the photos I have from a NC Kerr Lake Borderline Regatta I did with him back then. It was always kept mint. Photo's still look nice.


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Is that TABASCO? Been a long time, I can't remember the sail number.
 

eliboat

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Odd boat for these parts! Shame there is no competition. The bags aft seem like an impediment. Do Merlin rockets have tanks, or are bags the norm?
 

Steam Flyer

Sophisticated Yet Humble
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Odd boat for these parts! Shame there is no competition. The bags aft seem like an impediment. Do Merlin rockets have tanks, or are bags the norm?

From what i've seen in magazines, I think bags are the norm. Merlin-Rockets are an old development class that merged two very similar ones, the Merlin and the Rocket. They're really pretty and not slow, but they're also on the smallish side for full-grown corn-fed American adults.

I've only seen one Merlin-Rocket in the US, that was owned by a Brit who had brought it with him when he came to work for one of the big pharmaceutical conglomerates in central NC. It was rigged very cleverly with twin spinnaker poles, it was like a mobile sculpture of wood and carbon and shiny Harken fittings.

This would be the PERFECT boat for the Texas Centerboard Circuit (if that's still a thing).
 

eliboat

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From what i've seen in magazines, I think bags are the norm. Merlin-Rockets are an old development class that merged two very similar ones, the Merlin and the Rocket. They're really pretty and not slow, but they're also on the smallish side for full-grown corn-fed American adults.

I've only seen one Merlin-Rocket in the US, that was owned by a Brit who had brought it with him when he came to work for one of the big pharmaceutical conglomerates in central NC. It was rigged very cleverly with twin spinnaker poles, it was like a mobile sculpture of wood and carbon and shiny Harken fittings.

This would be the PERFECT boat for the Texas Centerboard Circuit (if that's still a thing).
Thanks. Well aware of what Merlin rockets are and where they’re sailed, just curious about the bag setup. Seems weird.
 


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