Craigslist Finds

[BobBill]

I've been toying with the idea of a Star to play with but we have to ramp launch here so it makes a boat like that very difficult.

Once you get to know the rigging...it might scare you into a 110...

Seriously, as I have it, Star rigging is sophisticated (never had the pleasure but have been watching them since a pup around Belmont in Chi.

And stepping that mast...egad! Might be better to sail a much simpler Yngling keeler or even a Flying 15...off trailer or the hard, but then I am a lazy slut!

 

[Trovão]

Once you get to know the rigging...it might scare you into a 110...

Seriously, as I have it, Star rigging is sophisticated (never had the pleasure but have been watching them since a pup around Belmont in Chi.

And stepping that mast...egad! Might be better to sail a much simpler Yngling keeler or even a Flying 15...off trailer or the hard, but then I am a lazy slut!

mast? oh, you mean the aluminum spaghetti?

 

[hoofhearted]

Sunfish sail for sale  "tough as nails" :  

https://pensacola.craigslist.org/bpo/d/sunfish-sail-needs-attention/6690190133.html

 

[WCB]

Sunfish sail for sale  "tough as nails" :  

https://pensacola.craigslist.org/bpo/d/sunfish-sail-needs-attention/6690190133.html

You may have won this game...

 

[K9u20]

Megabyte in Florida

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283186687750

 

[WCB]

Here's a horde of boats here in Utah..yikes.  Sunfish, O'day Daysailer, catamarans...etc.

Horde!!

 

[Alan Crawford]

Here's a horde of boats here in Utah..yikes.  Sunfish, O'day Daysailer, catamarans...etc.

Horde!!

Probably come with a few extras such as a rattlesnake or two!

 

[WCB]

Rondar 505 in Reno Nevada on Ebay.  The opening bid is $10.  There are fees involved but it looks like you can call for a coupon to get reduced fees as well.

Rondar 505 in Reno

 

[WCB]

Sidewinder on Ebay for $610, no bids.

Sidewinder in the midwest

 

[VWAP]

Not a dinghy and overpriced

https://prescott.craigslist.org/boa/d/meter-sloop-sailboat-dragon/6691320414.html

 

[WCB]

That's a purdy boat...I wouldn't want to own a dragon but they are nice to look at.

I didn't advertise it here but I just tried to buy a Star from the midwest. It was one of those "once in a blue moon" boats where the seller wasn't a star sailor, they were part of a collegiate program where it had been donated.  The surveyor got it all wrong and said the boat was a 1991 when in fact it was a 2001 so it was way underpriced.  I put a bid in but lost it to yet another set of bad negotiating skills where the seller didn't counter me, they just took another bid that came in two or three days after mine.  It always boils my blood when people don't have the proper respect to negotiate the boat through with you and they pull stunts like this.  I'm still ticked a day later.  

 

[Schnurrp]

That's a purdy boat...I wouldn't want to own a dragon but they are nice to look at.

I didn't advertise it here but I just tried to buy a Star from the midwest. It was one of those "once in a blue moon" boats where the seller wasn't a star sailor, they were part of a collegiate program where it had been donated.  The surveyor got it all wrong and said the boat was a 1991 when in fact it was a 2001 so it was way underpriced.  I put a bid in but lost it to yet another set of bad negotiating skills where the seller didn't counter me, they just took another bid that came in two or three days after mine.  It always boils my blood when people don't have the proper respect to negotiate the boat through with you and they pull stunts like this.  I'm still ticked a day later.  

Yeah I hate that....except when I'm the "other bidder".

 

[Lifesave]

Just sold my 18 footer for the price of the rudder I hand carried back from AU. Forget the carbon bowsprit, three riggs and trailer. Always loved those that lowballed an already underpriced item. Glad you didn't get it. Hope you learned your lesson. You stated what you where willing to pay. Under what condition should he have countered? This is not a stunt or disrespect. You're the low bid loser. Get over it.

 

[WCB]

Just sold my 18 footer for the price of the rudder I hand carried back from AU. Forget the carbon bowsprit, three riggs and trailer. Always loved those that lowballed an already underpriced item. Glad you didn't get it. Hope you learned your lesson. You stated what you where willing to pay. Under what condition should he have countered? This is not a stunt or disrespect. You're the low bid loser. Get over it.

Except only I knew that.  The seller thought he was right on the money with a survey that backed up his asking price so no, you'd be wrong in this case.  If he said he had a 2001 and had to sell it fast, I would have been happy to discuss it as such. 

 

[BobBill]

I think I know the feeling. I rejuved a rig, took it to Denver on a deal, weather and events trumped my end of it, no boat, no deal...learned hard one, for nothing but labors, and the only stones I can toss are at me!

 

[Alan Crawford]

A 1979 Star in the Seattle area for $900

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/d/1979-star-21/6733981197.html

 

[Steve Clark]

I have had to sell boats for less than the cost of the paint job. It’s discouraging when you realize that people think you have devalued materials by spending hours turning them into a boat.

SHC

 

[Steam Flyer]

I have had to sell boats for less than the cost of the paint job. It’s discouraging when you realize that people think you have devalued materials by spending hours turning them into a boat.

SHC

You can think of it as your contribution to fighting inflation, maybe? Just tryna hold a positive vibe......

I've repeated to myself a couple of times, selling a boat for much less than I wanted to, the fatuous old line "At least it's going to a good home."

FB- Doug

 

[BobBill]

I have to disagree with Clark, who has spent much time selling boats. 

Big boat, small boat; labor of love.

Simple, "it's" not the moola (boat), "it's" sailing, so one must be prepared to part equally, having sailed, IMO.

 

[mikegt4]

Sometimes these CL finds can turn out to be a gem. Going through this thread from the beginning I ran across a post (p.9 #882) about a boat that I bought last year.

The lake that I sail on has only one launch ramp area and it is very shallow, I measured it at only 42" deep at the end of the dock/pier which reaches 30' out from the waters edge. No problem for the boats that I have owned over the years (Y-flyer, Buccaneer, MC scow, E scow) but I had been casually looking for a cabin boat (read very stable) suitable for introducing my young great grand kids to sailing. I just couldn't bring myself to go with the usual swing keel Cat22 or Macgregor type boat and suffer from their low performance levels. I happen to see the CL ad which piqued my interest with the claim of performance and a very shallow draft of 11" for trailering/launching and a cheap $1500 asking price for the boat, galvanized factory trailer and 6hp OB. A search reveled a top notch design pedigree (Bruce Farr) and proven performance in the world down under but little info stateside. After a month the ad was still up so I contacted the owner to look at the boat. Long story short he just wanted for it to be gone,  most likely influenced by an upcoming expensive winter storage contract. He said that his GF didn't like it and wanted a larger cruising boat, the 5 gal. plastic  pail he had been using for a head probably had something to do with that.

PO's can be interesting people, he had thrown money at the boat buying top tier equipment but installation was often poorly done. He was the kind of guy that had little patience for doing the job right. When I got to the yacht club where he stored the boat he had a pile of equipment on the ground next to the boat ready to go into the nearby dumpster. All the cushions (original and by their condition spent most of their life in POs houses), about 5 sails, Schaeffer roller furling gear, extra (original) boom and many other pieces of gear. He was surprised that I insisted in taking it all with me. When I got home I unloaded 11 sails from the cabin 2 of which were only a season old and in the paperwork I found the $3600 receipt for them. I spent the winter sealing leaks (everything he bolted on had no sealant), fixing the high $ wire spliced with wire nuts, replacing HD/Lowes steel fasteners and fixing all the misaligned standing rigging. By spring I was replacing 1/2"  line running through blocks with a 3/8" max line cheek spacing. Some of them were so tight that I barely got them out. I made up a gin pole and temporary side stays to made raising the 31' mast a one person job even for this old man.

It was all worth it as the boat did not disappoint. She is very fast (PHRF in the 160's), lite on the tiller and well balanced. Over the summer I have worked out most of the PO's "improvements" and despite having more strings to pull than a gaff rigged schooner I can singlehand her fairly well. She is cosmetically challenged, I still have yet to address a lot of gel coat crazing, oxidation and other minor damage from years of hard racing and his anti fouling paint job peeled off the bottom when  I pressure washed the boat during the fall pull out. Most people take the time to sand a little before applying new paint.

Interestingly enough I found a PDF of the original sales brochure online and there was my boat in several of the photos. A NZ magazine review stated that 2 of the first 10 boats built went to the US, my boat is #008. I have only heard of one other Farr 740 in the states and it was listed for sale in the Latitude 38 classifieds over the summer, located in the SF bay area. The photo showed her bearing #8374 on the sails, 2 of my 11 sails bear the same # so I assume that one of my POs bought them used from that boat at some point.

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/farr-740-sport

http://www.farrdesign.com/101.html