Crazy Congress and their unending Investigations

phillysailor

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I love when folks tell you they are going to tell you something. Not right now. In the future.

“Stay tuned. I’m going to tell you what you want to hear.”

Gets people to post it.
In this case, it’s “Stay tuned. I’m going to tell you what Elon Musk wants you to hear.”

I’m not convinced he has the intent or capacity to be truthful.
 

Dog 2.0

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In this case, it’s “Stay tuned. I’m going to tell you what Elon Musk wants you to hear.”

I’m not convinced he has the intent or capacity to be truthful.
Did your finely tuned truth detector alert you when Biden, the MSM and 51 former intelligence officials told us the laptop was Russian disinformation?
 

phillysailor

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Did your finely tuned truth detector alert you when Biden, the MSM and 51 former intelligence officials told us the laptop was Russian disinformation?
Rudy dropped this newish item with, what, 10 days left before the election? IMO he wanted to repeat the Comey 2016 election meddling by not giving investigators, the press, let alone the public enough time to evaluate the material.

Even now, years later, there is no consensus on how to view data on the laptop.

The intelligence regarding Russian interference with our election was real, and social media was the medium of influence. I understand Rudy and Russian goals mesh with yours, but there is no justifiable rationale for their methods to be allowed to alter the results of an election.

Winning at any cost may be the GOP's plan, but it doesn't work for our country. It leads to corrupt leaders and a lack of coherent policies, witness four years of Trump which destroyed all vestiges of responsible governance from Republicans.
 

billy backstay

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Are you stoned or just stupid??

Daily Mail Online? Ridiculous RWNJ media..... Lies, lies, and more lies, aka alternate facts, aka bullshit!


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Dog 2.0

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Rudy dropped this newish item with, what, 10 days left before the election? IMO he wanted to repeat the Comey 2016 election meddling by not giving investigators, the press, let alone the public enough time to evaluate the material.

Even now, years later, there is no consensus on how to view data on the laptop.

The intelligence regarding Russian interference with our election was real, and social media was the medium of influence. I understand Rudy and Russian goals mesh with yours, but there is no justifiable rationale for their methods to be allowed to alter the results of an election.

Winning at any cost may be the GOP's plan, but it doesn't work for our country. It leads to corrupt leaders and a lack of coherent policies, witness four years of Trump which destroyed all vestiges of responsible governance from Republicans.

It was the NYP that dropped the true laptop story and was banished from Twitter for it. Big tech suppressed the dissemination of the story while big media ran with the Biden administration lie that it was Russian disinformation. The NYT would not have deemed it legitimate if they had any doubt and today the only people who still question it are deniers.

As for Russian meddling, it was real, has been, and no doubt will continue to be real. Russian collusion however, was a foul campaign dirty trick by the Clinton campaign aided by the FBI and big media. That doctor, is an example of the win at any cost mentality.
 

phillysailor

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Glad you agree Russian meddling occurred, but you never seem to think it shouldn’t be allowed to help Republicans win elections.

In this case, the NY Post got their materials FROM Rudy G, who took his pants down in front of an underage actor working with Borat, and let his hair dye run in front of millions. His Four Seasons wasn’t the one with a lobby so you’ll have to forgive America for not treating him as a reputable source.

Also, he’s the same Rudy Giuliani whose recorded phone call showed how he called Zelensky’s chief aide Andrei Yermak in 2019 to pressure him into falsely announcing that Ukraine was investigating Biden. This is what led to Trumps call and first impeachment.

So according to you, Hunter’s laptop, out of the blue, delivered by Rudy G just before the presidential election between Biden and Trump shouldn’t be treated with skepticism even though we STILL cannot decide whether ANY of its data will be legally useful.

Why do you hate America?
 

Dog 2.0

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Glad you agree Russian meddling occurred, but you never seem to think it shouldn’t be allowed to help Republicans win elections.

In this case, the NY Post got their materials FROM Rudy G, who took his pants down in front of an underage actor working with Borat, and let his hair dye run in front of millions. His Four Seasons wasn’t the one with a lobby so you’ll have to forgive America for not treating him as a reputable source.

Also, he’s the same Rudy Giuliani whose recorded phone call showed how he called Zelensky’s chief aide Andrei Yermak in 2019 to pressure him into falsely announcing that Ukraine was investigating Biden. This is what led to Trumps call and first impeachment.

So according to you, Hunter’s laptop, out of the blue, delivered by Rudy G just before the presidential election between Biden and Trump shouldn’t be treated with skepticism even though we STILL cannot decide whether ANY of its data will be legally useful.

Why do you hate America?
Laptop denier.
 

Steam Flyer

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It was the NYP that dropped the true laptop story and was banished from Twitter for it. Big tech suppressed the dissemination of the story while big media ran with the Biden administration lie that it was Russian disinformation. The NYT would not have deemed it legitimate if they had any doubt and today the only people who still question it are deniers.
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The New York Post is a far-right bullshit-spew propaganda version of The National Enquirer. It's stories are in the same category as NatEnqr's stories about two-headed Elvis clones and alien love bat-babies.

Bring evidence of Biden family corruption, I am definitely interested. Endless bullshitting about Hunter Biden's laptop is just more bullshitting.

If any member of President Biden's family has engaged in crimes, let the full legal process get to work.

Republicans don't want process of law, they want to punish Democrats and pretend no Republican has ever done anything wrong... or if they have, it's OK because something something, oh and Democrat=BAD!!

See the difference.
 

billy backstay

Backstay, never bought a suit, never went to Vegas
The New York Post is a far-right bullshit-spew propaganda version of The National Enquirer. It's stories are in the same category as NatEnqr's stories about two-headed Elvis clones and alien love bat-babies.

Bring evidence of Biden family corruption, I am definitely interested. Endless bullshitting about Hunter Biden's laptop is just more bullshitting.

If any member of President Biden's family has engaged in crimes, let the full legal process get to work.

Republicans don't want process of law, they want to punish Democrats and pretend no Republican has ever done anything wrong... or if they have, it's OK because something something, oh and Democrat=BAD!!

See the difference.

Midia Bias/Fack Check says.....

New York Post​


New York Post - Right Center Bias - Credible - Reliable - Conservative - Republican
Factual Reporting: Mixed - Not always Credible or Reliable

 

phillysailor

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Laptop denier.
I am arguing that Rudy Giuliani is not a reputable source and I recognize evidentiary problems with data on the laptop which would likely prevent its use in court.

Your reaction requires denial of our laws, and evinces a desire to allow Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump to influence the electorate just before a presidential election.

Why do you hate America?
 

Blue Crab

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I am arguing that Rudy Giuliani is not a reputable source and I recognize evidentiary problems with data on the laptop which would likely prevent its use in court.

Your reaction requires denial of our laws, and evinces a desire to allow Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump to influence the electorate just before a presidential election.

Why do you hate America?
It's the only argument he has. Watch the ball come casually back:
 

Dog 2.0

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The New York Post is a far-right bullshit-spew propaganda version of The National Enquirer. It's stories are in the same category as NatEnqr's stories about two-headed Elvis clones and alien love bat-babies.

Bring evidence of Biden family corruption, I am definitely interested. Endless bullshitting about Hunter Biden's laptop is just more bullshitting.

If any member of President Biden's family has engaged in crimes, let the full legal process get to work.

Republicans don't want process of law, they want to punish Democrats and pretend no Republican has ever done anything wrong... or if they have, it's OK because something something, oh and Democrat=BAD!!

See the difference.
You think disparaging the source refutes the story, it does not.
 

Dog 2.0

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I am arguing that Rudy Giuliani is not a reputable source and I recognize evidentiary problems with data on the laptop which would likely prevent its use in court.

Your reaction requires denial of our laws, and evinces a desire to allow Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump to influence the electorate just before a presidential election.

Why do you hate America?
Another one who thinks disparaging the source refutes the story. Doctor, the laptop is legit.
 

phillysailor

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Another one who thinks disparaging the source refutes the story. Doctor, the laptop is legit.
Again, I’m not denying the laptop exists and has potentially interesting details of Hunters life and business.

I’m doubting a case can be built upon it because of American laws of evidence. I don’t even think you can justify opening a case based solely on the laptop due to the concept of “fruit of the poisoned tree.”

And I don’t need to disparage Rudy’s reputation. He has shown himself as one who wants to conspire with foreign powers to slander Joe Biden and help Donald Trump. Not sure why you want his last minute games to help determine the results of an election, but it’s probably because you hate America’s democracy and it’s laws.
 






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