Daysailer for old people

[bmiller]

That seems sensible to me. My octogenarian father may have similar tastes. He had a Cape Cod Bull's Eye but I think he found it a bit small. Also, he decided that he wanted an auxiliary so he could get home if caught out in the calms.  He's not as spry as he used to be. He uses a cane most of the time. A floating dock with an easy step aboard and no lifelines in the way really helps. We added a pole on the dock that he can steady himself with.

This is his setup:

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Beautiful, what is it? No backstay, so a custom gallows?

 

[weightless]

Beautiful, what is it? No backstay, so a custom gallows?

It's a Herreshoff Fish. 

https://maineboats.com/print/issue-136/herreshoff-fish-a-good-catch

 

[Bull City]

It's a Herreshoff Fish. 

https://maineboats.com/print/issue-136/herreshoff-fish-a-good-catch

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Ah! A raked rudder post.    There is/was a good pissing match about these going on over at the "To Lust Over on YotLot.com" thread. It may rival off-set companionways. Check it out. 

Sailing a Herreshoff Fish in a blue oxford cloth button down shirt. @weightless your dad is living right! 

 

[weightless]

There is/was a good pissing match about these going on over at the "To Lust Over on YotLot.com" thread. It may rival off-set companionways. Check it out. 

I saw that. I would have commented but I had already posted in the anchoring thread and didn't want to get entangled in two religious wars at the same time.

 

[Steam Flyer]

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[Alan H]

I have a daysailer for old people, seeing as I'll be retiring shortly, and retiring from solo racing and the incredible money sump that it is. I have a Scottish Piper One Design, but you'll never find one in the USA.

Alternatively, McVey Bluenose 24...

 

[Alan H]

The 19 foot version of the Bluenose is the Minuet. There's one in Bellingham, WA that I've seen pop up on Craigslist off nd on for  couple of years. It was listed just a couple weeks ago and it's got to be this one.

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/69031

Here's a blog about them with lots of pictures....might be a little small for your folks. I'm suspecting they might want to sit more IN the boat, and these seats are pretty small and not deep.

https://mcvayminuet.wordpress.com/

 

[weightless]

I'm suspecting they might want to sit more IN the boat, and these seats are pretty small and not deep.

 On small boats with low topsides it's hard to get both nice seats and a self bailing cockpit.

 

[socalrider]

The 19 foot version of the Bluenose is the Minuet. There's one in Bellingham, WA that I've seen pop up on Craigslist off nd on for  couple of years. It was listed just a couple weeks ago and it's got to be this one.

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/69031

Here's a blog about them with lots of pictures....might be a little small for your folks. I'm suspecting they might want to sit more IN the boat, and these seats are pretty small and not deep.

https://mcvayminuet.wordpress.com/

The Bluenose is glorious!  Minuet does look small. Why do people post ads with just one exterior picture?  

 On small boats with low topsides it's hard to get both nice seats and a self bailing cockpit.

Yeah, the Harbor 20 seems pretty miraculous in that respect. 

 

[Rambunctious]

As was mentioned up the thread, the Harbor 25 is also worth a look. Very comfortable, very forgiving, but still a nice sailing little daysailor (with the ability to do some weekending as well). If the Alerion 28 was ticking all of the boxes, I would certainly recommend checking out the Harbor 25.

 

[Crash]

As was mentioned up the thread, the Harbor 25 is also worth a look. Very comfortable, very forgiving, but still a nice sailing little daysailor (with the ability to do some weekending as well). If the Alerion 28 was ticking all of the boxes, I would certainly recommend checking out the Harbor 25.

Plus PHRF ratings give the Harbor 25 J-24 like speed (+/-) depending on area, so that’s not too shabby either...

 

[socalrider]

Plus PHRF ratings give the Harbor 25 J-24 like speed (+/-) depending on area, so that’s not too shabby either...

As was mentioned up the thread, the Harbor 25 is also worth a look. Very comfortable, very forgiving, but still a nice sailing little daysailor (with the ability to do some weekending as well). If the Alerion 28 was ticking all of the boxes, I would certainly recommend checking out the Harbor 25.

For some reason the Harbor 25 leaves me a bit cold relative to the Alerion 28. Also the ones I’ve seen have wheel steering which seems silly for a boat that size. And they seem over-finished below (marble countertops!). 
 

That said if they want a cabin I’ll steer them toward both. 

 

[Crash]

No doubt the A28 is the better looking boat...and yeah, wheel steering on a 25 footer is more than silly, it’s kinda downright dumb 

 

[Son of Hans]

I looked seriously at the H25 before buying an A28 (you may see me on SD bay).  Both are potentially budget busters for the OP, but they do tick a lot of boxes.  I felt it important to have a big cockpit, an inboard and a proper head (the last two as concessions to advancing years), and that narrows the choices quite a bit.  I felt that the H25 was basically a knockoff of the A28 concept, albeit with a number of details that were better worked out, but the overall impression was much less aesthetically pleasing.  Agree that the wheel steering is overkill.  Haven't regretted my choice so far.

 

[socalrider]

I looked seriously at the H25 before buying an A28 (you may see me on SD bay).  Both are potentially budget busters for the OP, but they do tick a lot of boxes.  I felt it important to have a big cockpit, an inboard and a proper head (the last two as concessions to advancing years), and that narrows the choices quite a bit.  I felt that the H25 was basically a knockoff of the A28 concept, albeit with a number of details that were better worked out, but the overall impression was much less aesthetically pleasing.  Agree that the wheel steering is overkill.  Haven't regretted my choice so far.

We’re on the same page!  Lovely boat - are you at Kona Kai per chance?  There’s a nice A28 there where we keep our trawler.

A28 was my first thought for them; just not sure if they need the accommodations. My mom never once went below in our First 405. The head is a consideration though. 

 

[Steam Flyer]

That Piper is a beauty, all right! Too bad there's so many miles between us

FB- Doug

 

[Son of Hans]

We’re on the same page!  Lovely boat - are you at Kona Kai per chance?  There’s a nice A28 there where we keep our trawler.

A28 was my first thought for them; just not sure if they need the accommodations. My mom never once went below in our First 405. The head is a consideration though. 

No, I'm at Harbor Island West.  There are a couple around - haven't tracked them all down yet!

 

[GoldenStreak]

I always wanted a Soverel 28 MORC for a daysailer.

 

[SpongeDeckSquareFoil]

Helped haul a Capri 26 the other day. I had never seen this model boat before and was surprised how attractive it appeared on the water. I thought it was a very nice looking boat, in more of a modern sense, not in a traditional manner. This boat had an inboard which due to the reverse transom probably makes more sense than an outboard. Enclosed head and minimalist interior are nice touches. Cockpit appeared to be fairly roomy. All in all it took me by surprise. Probably would fit the budget if the non-traditional look isn't a deal breaker.

I'm guessing the performance might be a bit lacking, but for an older couple it might work.

 

[socalrider]

WITCH: a 16' Herreshoff - not sure about that coachroof but the sheer sure is nice.  Fiberglass version of the 12 1/2?  Would love to see a pic of her on the water.  

Looks like a sloop rig.  Pinged the broker for details.  

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/d/newport-beach-1970-herreshoff/7209285033.html