Dean Barker's Future

[**ONTOIT**]

Seriously interested in thoughts from SA posters.....

 

[NZL4EVER]

By age alone yes. Jimmy and Ben are in the same age range...... 

New blood. 

 

[Sailbydate]

New blood. 

Agreed. Apparent wind sailing is not a game for middle-aged, or older folks. 

 

[Varan]

Agreed. Apparent wind sailing is not a game for middle-aged, or older folks. 

Poland’s Karol Jablonski and other older sailors do just fine at apparent wind sailing, and at faster speeds than these AC blokes.

 

[**ONTOIT**]

By age alone yes. Jimmy and Ben are in the same age range...... 

New blood. 

But even when Barker was in the same age bracket you cant compare him to Jimmy and Ben.....different mental toughness. All the successful AC Helmsman have it, sadly Barker doesn't seem too! I was surprised when the AM team decided to go with Barker.....I would have thought Nathan Outteridge would have been a far better choice!

 

[LB 15.1]

While there are fools willing to buy into the "Barker delusion" he will keep taking the money.

Outeridge would sail rings around Barker... But Barker's got Hutches ear.

Every team that has employed Barker has regretted it.

His future....   The same as the past..  

 

[Sailbydate]

Poland’s Karol Jablonski and other older sailors do just fine at apparent wind sailing, and at faster speeds than these AC blokes.

So what's he been doing for the last decade? 

 

[Guest]

So what's he been doing for the last decade? 

Why helming in the AC, didn’t you know?

 

[Varan]

So what's he been doing for the last decade? 

For example, in the DN class...


DN Class Ice SailingEdit



World ChampionshipsEdit






Year


Medal


Regatta Site




1992


Gold


Arsunda, Sweden




1993


Silver


Lake Geneva, Switzerland




1994


Silver


Nieporęt, Poland




1995


Gold


Montreal, Canada




1996


Gold


Vienna, Austria




1997


Gold


Lake St. Clair, United States




2000


Gold


Lake Hjalmaren, Sweden




2001


Gold


Saginaw Bay, United States




2002


Silver


Haapsalu, Estonia




2003


Gold


Lake Champlain, United States




2004


Silver


Lake Balaton, Hungary




2014


Gold[1]


Haapsalu, Estonia




2015


Gold[2]


Lake Ontario, Canada




2016


Gold[3]


Lake Glan, Sweden




2017


Gold[4]


Lake Kegonsa, United States




2018


Gold[5]


Lake Wielimie, Poland

 

[Sugarscoop]

From what I have seen, 

Dean is the only one who applies match racing tactics when the boats are close. We have seen all the other skippers with more fleet racing pedigree split when infront and not defend their position and rather go to boundary and chase wind shifts. 

All good when you are a fair way in front but if its close, Dean is the only one who will tack and defend his position. This is how they beat ETNZ

 

[eurochild]

For those like myself who are scratching their heads about ages...

DB is 47

Ainslie 43

Spithill 41

I reckon if he wins the Prada this time he'd be odds on to get a gig in a small fleet (like this one) next time. Depending on the participants.

If it's a larger fleet (e.g. more participants in a more established AC75 class) he'd likely have options in any event. No-one besides Spithill has as much experience test piloting the post-2007 era of AC boats, and he's been to 3 finals (+ 2000). It's like football managers, experience gets hired.

 

[Rennmaus]

None of the options. 

 

[dogwatch]

It's like football managers, experience gets hired.

As managers. Nobody the wrong side of 40 here. https://www.colossusbets.com/blog/oldest-players-in-the-premier-league/

 

[southseasbill]

What about being 30 seconds late for the start of that match race? Forget that bit numpty?

According to TH, they had a jib issue and had to change it. Made them late for the start.

 

[enigmatically2]

Agreed. Apparent wind sailing is not a game for middle-aged, or older folks. 

Thats what people were saying about Ben a week ago.

 

[minimumfuss]

What about being 30 seconds late for the start of that match race? Forget that bit numpty?

Late entry, not start so much, emergency jib change. Forget that numpty? Guess your armchair would be bang on time.. 

 

[Fiji Bitter]

Stupid thread with stupid poll. 

Seriously interested or not, I usually say: "mind your own fucking business" 

 

[**ONTOIT**]

Stupid thread with stupid poll. 

Seriously interested or not, I usually say: "mind your own fucking business" 

Nice one! This whole forum would be “stupid” if we minded our own business, didn’t you realise that, move along, and  go back to drinking that shit Fiji Bitter dressed up as a beer!

 

[EYESAILOR]

Even if he won the whole thing, I dont think he drives next time round because he will doubtless want to retire