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Pertinacious Tom said:
I'm no fan of DeSantis' censorship, but he didn't "send" those idiots to do anything. The article itself has the likelier explanation.
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good, noted, how about this one

Florida athletes may soon be required to submit their menstrual history to schools

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article272020202.html#storylink=cpy

Now they want to play doctors, so girls/women have no Freedom.
what next. the bullshit just keeps running downhill.
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Pertinacious Tom said:
As asked in the thread about that, a question can be interesting in NYC and not in FL, can't it?

(For non-clickers, the link leads to NY City's form, which was apparently written by DeSantis and asks about girls' periods.)
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There is a big difference. In NYC the medical info stays with the kid's doctor and is protected. Only a simple form to declare the kid fit is sent to the school.
 
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Call the "woke busters": Ron DeSantis sends volunteer army to snatch books from students' hands

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I used to give my nieces and nephews books and tell them not to let their parents know, because it was a bit "advanced" (wink wink) and most grown-ups didn't want them reading it until they were older. They always devoured this material.

Much of this stuff was history and autobiography; telling it like it is.

I hope the school kids react to this book-banning with enthusiasm for reading the stuff they're not supposed to.
 
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Steve Schmidt has this prologue to his daily email post. Please repost this information wherever you can.

Note: In response to my essay, “Ron DeSantis: the book banner,” earlier this week, The Warning community member Heather Smith was kind enough in the comments section to share details about an initiative of the Brooklyn Public Library called BooksUnbanned. The purpose of the program is to offer a free eCard nationwide to those aged 13 to 21 to access their entire digital catalog for one year in an effort to combat book banning efforts like those taking place in Florida. I promoted this yesterday on my social channels, and wanted to ensure that everyone here was also aware of it so that we can all do our part to promote this important effort. Details can be found here. Thank you, Heather!
 
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What Liberals Can Learn From Ron DeSantis

Is there anything liberals can do about Ron DeSantis other than quietly seethe, loudly condemn him every time he makes headlinesand hope that his political flaws — his distaste for glad-handing, his less-than-inspiring public-speaking style, his conspicuous unlikability — will take him down before he gets anywhere close to the presidency? It would be tempting to write off DeSantis, the bombastic Republican governor of Florida, as another unelectable right-wing lunatic unfit for national office.

We’ve made that mistake before.

It’s reliably depressing to revisit 2016 and the misbegotten liberal conviction that America couldn’t possibly elevate Donald Trump to the presidency. We’ve already cataloged the mistakes in media coverage and dissected what we missed that somehow made Trump a viable, let alone a desirable, candidate to occupy the Oval Office. But here we go again. As the Democratic political strategist Lis Smith has remarked, the left’s reaction to DeSantis looks just like its reaction to Trump: “He’s picking these fights. He’s saying and doing abhorrent things. And all the same characters — whether in the media, Democratic politics, the punditry class, whatever it is — have the same freakout.”

Let’s pay closer attention this time.

First, we shouldn’t underestimate DeSantis. He may resemble Trump in his politics — but not in his intellect or resolve. Compare their respective backgrounds: Whereas Trump’s acceptance into the University of Pennsylvania, after an academic record notable only for its mediocrity, was an egregious example of leveraging personal connections to get into a prestigious university, DeSantis, the son of a TV ratings box installer and a nurse, actually earned his way into the Ivy League. People bent over backward to ascribe some accidental form of grifter street smarts to Trump. But DeSantis is demonstrably intelligent and industrious. He worked his way through Yale while playing baseball and graduated magna cum laude.

Whereas Trump skirted military service with a convenient discovery of bone spurs, DeSantis was a commissioned officer in the Navy. He graduated from Harvard Law School. He may share Trump’s taste for bluster, but this is not someone who bumbled his way into public office. As Dexter Filkins observed last year in a New Yorker profile, “DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence and a granular understanding of policy.”

Because we can assume DeSantis knows what he’s doing, we should make careful note of his record in Florida, where he has been governor since 2019. His approval rating in Florida is consistently over 50 percent and includes high ratings among Latinos and in former liberal strongholds like Miami-Dade and Palm Beach Counties.

The jury is still out on whether DeSantis’s unorthodox response to Covid-19 was a colossal error or an unexpected success or, more likely, something in between, but the fact that he took an aggressive approach to avoid the pains of lockdown on small businesses and families wasn’t lost on Florida voters. While other politicians prevaricated and dithered, DeSantis spoke with conviction and seemed to be doing something, and to many working families in Florida, that mattered.

When I visited Miami from Covid-conscious New York in 2021, the vibe in bars and restaurants in the Wynwood art district — where nobody asked for proof of vaccination and I was the only person in a mask — was euphoric. In that young, overwhelmingly liberal corner of the city, people weren’t faulting DeSantis for his pandemic policies. He also acted decisively last year during Hurricane Ian, a response that won strong bipartisan approval.

In a country where government often looks sclerotic, DeSantis’s knack for action bears notice. We can decry his stunt in shipping migrants to Martha’s Vineyard, but we should also be attending to the real concerns of people living in areas of heavy immigration. Lest we forget, Hispanic voters in Florida preferred DeSantis to his Democratic opponent in last year’s election for governor; they also supported his Martha’s Vineyard escapade, according to a Telemundo/LX News poll. “There are lots of Hispanic voters in this state who really like the governor’s style, this strongman who won’t back down,” one pollster explained at the time.

Democrats need to grapple with this appeal. It would be easy to write DeSantis off as a cartoon culture warrior or as racist, homophobic, transphobic and xenophobic. He may well be all those things, and so may some of his constituents. But he may not be, and either way, it would be foolish to characterize all his followers as such. Assuming a stance of moral superiority will do us no good. (See: Hillary Clinton, “deplorables.”)

Finally, we shouldn’t let DeSantis co-opt positions on which Democrats have historical strength and a natural advantage: education, health care, jobs. There are reasons so many Americans are relocating to the Sunshine State beyond the balmy weather. This month, DeSantis released a budget plan that featured targeted tax cuts aimed at parents, salary increases for state employees, including teachers, and significant investments in schools, including programs in civic education.

DeSantis’s maverick approach to primary, secondary and higher education has brought widespread condemnation from Democrats, particularly from their more progressive wing. But we should pay attention to why his policies land better with voters than with progressive critics. A law like the Stop WOKE Act of 2021 (later partly blocked by a federal court), which limited the discussion of certain racial issues during diversity training sessions offered by private employers and in the classroom, may come with an incendiary name and some egregious efforts to curtail free speech. But it’s important to recognize that aspects of it appeal to Floridians tired of racial and ethnic divisiveness and the overt politicization of what’s taught in the classroom.

As many liberals will quietly acknowledge, the Parental Rights in Education Act, which DeSantis signed last year and which opponents nicknamed the “Don’t Say Gay” law, has reasonable and legitimate attractions for a broad range of parents who worry about the focus, efficacy and age appropriateness of what their kids are learning in primary and secondary school. Democratic leadership should worry, too. Keeping quiet or pretending those concerns aren’t real won’t make them go away.

Then there’s college. The challenges of higher education have never been a strength for the Republican Party, which has long ignored the myriad needs of indebted students and the financial and existential pressures on academic institutions. If ideological conformity has taken root in American universities, long a bastion of liberal ideals, then Democrats are the ones with the knowledge, experience and record to attend to the problem. It’s on liberals to check the excesses of illiberal orthodoxies rampant among those on its far-left wing. It’s on us to ensure academic freedom and the kind of educational system parents can trust.

It should be cause for alarm that recent polls show Republicans holding an advantage on educational issues. Rather than dismiss parents’ concerns as somehow unfounded or wrongheaded, we should be listening to them and finding better solutions to their grievances. Telling parents they’re bigots or are unenlightened for not embracing the latest faddish orthodoxy is not a winning message.

Which brings us back to Trump. We know that he takes DeSantis seriously because Trump has shown signs that he’s scared of DeSantis as a competitor. If even Trump knows that much, Democrats are capable of knowing more. Trump may think the best way to defang DeSantis — whom he calls “DeSanctimonious” — is to mock and belittle him. Democrats should recognize it will take far more than that.
 
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hobie1616 said:
“There are lots of Hispanic voters in this state who really like the governor’s style, this strongman who won’t back down,” one pollster explained at the time.
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Amazingly a lot of Hispanics whose families fled strongman dictators and came to Florida actually love strongman dictators. Makes no sense to me. Doesn't have to be a good person, just has to have the appearance of a strongman.
 
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billsreef said:
Amazingly a lot of Hispanics whose families fled strongman dictators and came to Florida actually love strongman dictators. Makes no sense to me. Doesn't have to be a good person, just has to have the appearance of a strongman.
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Like Mr. Potato Head DeSantis. I'm pretty sure strongmen don't wear white rubber boots.
 
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Ron DeSantis Pushed for Privatizing Social Security, Medicare in 2012 Campaign, Tape Shows​

Newly resurfaced footage from Ron DeSantis's first campaign for the House of Representatives in 2012 shows the now-Governor expressing support privatizing Social Security and Medicare. The clip emerged as proposals by House and Senate Republicans to privatize or cut these institutions has emerged as a top talking point from President Joe Biden's State of the Union address.

DeSantis made the comments to the St. Augustine Record while running for Congress. "I would embrace proposals like Paul Ryan offered, and other people have offered, that are going to provide some market forces in there, more consumer choice, and make it so that it's not just basically a system that's going to bankrupt when you have new people coming into it," he said. DeSantis referenced policy proposals by Congressman Paul Ryan, who that year was chosen as the Vice Presidential nominee for the GOP ticket alongside Mitt Romney.

"I would not change Social Security and Medicare for people who are on the program or near retirement, 55 and over," he went on to say. "I think there's settled expectations there." His plan would apply for those still multiple decades away from accessing these programs. Referencing younger Americans like himself, candidate DeSantis added, "I should have to provide for myself in certain respects, and if I want a really grand policy I should be contributing to that."

Medicare, an $888 billion program in the 2021 federal budget, is primarily funded through general revenues, payroll taxes and healthcare premiums. Social security is funded through deductions taken out of payrolls at 6.2% by both employees and employers, up to a maximum amount of $160,200. Those who employ themselves cover the cost on both ends, paying 12.4%.

DeSantis was elected to the House of Representatives in 2012, representing all of Flagler and St. Johns counties and parts of Volusia and Putnam. He served as a congressman until his successful 2018 bid for Governor. With DeSantis in state government he hasn't had to submit an opinion on Medicare and Social Security in some time, but his stances may be called into renewed question if he runs for President in 2024, as many suspect he will.

The issue is being discussed after President Biden accused certain Republicans of wanting to cut into Medicare of Social Security. The assertion drew loud jeers from congressional Republicans. Senator Mike Lee of Utah has said on tape that he was advocating for cuts to these programs, and Senator Rick Scott of Florida has said they should, along with all other federal legislation, be put on the chopping block every five years for Congress to pass again if they're still worthwhile.

The below clip depicts the comments in question for DeSantis, to be consumed in their full context. Relevant portion begins at approximately 19:22.


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Ron DeSantis Pushed for Privatizing Social Security, Medicare in 2012 Campaign, Tape Shows

Newly resurfaced footage from Ron DeSantis's first campaign for the House of Representatives in 2012 shows the now-Governor expressing support privatizing Social Security and Medicare. The clip …
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every one in Florida should be armed, but not around me, what a Pussy.


The Republican governor’s campaign wanted weapons banned from his victory celebration at the city-run Tampa Convention Center, a city official said in emails obtained by The Washington Post. And the campaign suggested that the city take responsibility for the firearms ban, the official said — not the governor, who has been a vocal supporter of gun rights.
 
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