SOunds like you're talking blade weather. We've done both. It really depends on the driver keeping the boat deep and in control. So long as the chute's behind the main, it doesn't seem like that big a deal one way or the other. The jib will certainly help get the bow back downwind if you screw the pooch and round up hard.
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KmLury
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I have a J 105 with a 110 sq meter asymm which I single hand and double hand frequently. Launch and retrieve asymm out of the forward hatch. Head almost dead downwind to take pressure off kite. To douse double hand is easy. Roll out jib. Crew to foredeck, release sheet. Crew grabs lazy sheet, I pop the tack clutch. When foot is in hatch, I pop halyard clutch and bring halyard tail back to helm where I feed it out as crew stuffs kite into hatch. One the key things in any asymm douse is to put lazy jib sheet behind the hatch. If it is a "windward" douse, the only difference is first the crew hauls on the lazy sheet to bring the kite in front of forestay and to windward. The jib will keep it from going off to leeward.
If you douse it properly, no need to run the tapes for next launch.
If I am alone, I use this technique I found on the J 105 forum. Set autopilot for nearly dead downwind course. Take tackline back around winch (no wrap, just turn) and bring forward to tie off on foredeck. Do the same with halyard. When I am ready, release sheet, pop clutches and go on foredeck. Grab lazy sheet with one hand, untie tack line with other and get foot into hatch. Then untid halyard, try to keep it under my foot so I can release slowly and stuff like crazy as chute comes down.
Never had a problem yet.
Good luck.
Check out the J105 class site forum and search for spinnaker take down. Lots of good ideas.
If you douse it properly, no need to run the tapes for next launch.
If I am alone, I use this technique I found on the J 105 forum. Set autopilot for nearly dead downwind course. Take tackline back around winch (no wrap, just turn) and bring forward to tie off on foredeck. Do the same with halyard. When I am ready, release sheet, pop clutches and go on foredeck. Grab lazy sheet with one hand, untie tack line with other and get foot into hatch. Then untid halyard, try to keep it under my foot so I can release slowly and stuff like crazy as chute comes down.
Never had a problem yet.
Good luck.
Check out the J105 class site forum and search for spinnaker take down. Lots of good ideas.
ryley
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you can also use a lazy tack. blow sheet so kite depowers, open pole and tackline, yank lazy tack to bring sail back to companionway or wherever, ease halyard as necessary. hardest part is making sure the lazy tack is run properly in the first place.
Streetwise
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I love the spin retrieval line setup on our Viper 640. Would it be possible to mirror that setup on a larger boat, or is there a max size for that feature to be practical?
jason
jason
Presuming Ed
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AIUI, TP52s run grinder driven string drop systems. As do ACCs. Certain amount of kit required, though...
tolachi
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I am curious about the Melges 32 system described with the bungee and ring pulling in the halyard. Any opinions, pics, etc.. on it?
Schnick
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Well this morning I was looking at Gladstone's NorthU Trim book, he says the best it to do stretch-and-blow (pole forward, stretch sheet, blow halyard, gather) or if it is heavy, to letterbox. But he says the "traditional leeward douse" is not good (run or trip the guy, gather foot, let off halyard), although this is almost the same as a letterbox or pulling under the boom into the companionway. He presumes 4 - 6 crew throughout though.
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Daimond
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Delta Blues
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I've done it on a 44-footer double-handed mast head rig in 35 knots of breeze. It was easy.
1. Keep the chute behind the main.
2. Keep the wraps around the winch drum.
3. Throw the haylard overboard (there is more drag when the chute is near the top of the mast, and less drag in the water as the sail comes down.
4. Sit under the boom, on the spinnaker halyard (post winch side of load).
5. You will need to adjust the number of wraps on the spinnaker halyard drum to get it to work right.
6. Life your butt cheeks to let some of the halyard down, then sit back down on the halyard, collect the spinnaker. Keep repeateding this collecting the spinnaker in your lap.
7. Carry the spinnaker to the hatch and drop it down.
1. Keep the chute behind the main.
2. Keep the wraps around the winch drum.
3. Throw the haylard overboard (there is more drag when the chute is near the top of the mast, and less drag in the water as the sail comes down.
4. Sit under the boom, on the spinnaker halyard (post winch side of load).
5. You will need to adjust the number of wraps on the spinnaker halyard drum to get it to work right.
6. Life your butt cheeks to let some of the halyard down, then sit back down on the halyard, collect the spinnaker. Keep repeateding this collecting the spinnaker in your lap.
7. Carry the spinnaker to the hatch and drop it down.
KmLury
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Also, I would think stretch and blow would only work if you are dousing into the cabin via the companionway as with a J 80
leonsuperfly
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not true it works better in the forward hatch as its closer to the centre of the kite,
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