Did he do it?

badlatitude

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No he didn't, but that won't stop you or Fox News from making fake news.
 
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Just saw this in another article...

What value to Putin is it to destroy his major income source and leverage with the Europeans? Makes no sense, but here we have video of the POTUS saying it in public... Not the best optics...
 

Go Left

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Just saw this in another article...

What value to Putin is it to destroy his major income source and leverage with the Europeans? Makes no sense, but here we have video of the POTUS saying it in public... Not the best optics...
The value is cutting off heating fuel to Europe as winter approaches, on the principle that shivering German and French citizens will weaken their government's resolve to continue to ship weapons to Ukraine.

Or maybe it's just to spite them.

The more likely result is that the EU will shift its purchases to other suppliers as fast as they can.
 

Raz'r

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The US wants Europe support of Ukraine. Cutting off their heating fuel? Creating public pressure to back away from support? Sounds like something Trump would do, not a president who looks at the strategic interests of the US.
 

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The US wants Europe support of Ukraine. Cutting off their heating fuel? Creating public pressure to back away from support? Sounds like something Trump would do, not a president who looks at the strategic interests of the US.
Yeah but Trump is not president and Biden who is President actually said he would do it. Soooo....
 

badlatitude

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Just saw this in another article...

What value to Putin is it to destroy his major income source and leverage with the Europeans? Makes no sense, but here we have video of the POTUS saying it in public... Not the best optics...
Right now 1 and 2 are useless, makes no sense that anyone did it. There were NATO exercises in that area not long ago. It is possible naval exercises damaged the pipeline and it took this long for the structure to fail.
 

βhyde

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Yeah, nice try. Biden is talking about allowing NS2 to be commissioned if Russia doesn't play nice, which it never was. NS1 was the only pipeline that was ever operational, and is now junk along with NS2. Biden never mentioned NS1 or threatened to blow up anything. More BS from BS Central.
 

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What data?
You clearly have not looked into this issue have you. I suggest you go and study the information before landing at an opinion.

Swedish sensors detected three undersea explosions just prior to the pipeline damage becoming apparent. Still think this it's NATO exercises? Someone did this as an act of sabotage. Only one government that has openly said they would shut down the pipeline. The Biden Administration...
 




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