Diesel Bug and Marine 16 treatment - is it working?

[dylan winter]

Are they spawned that way or fettled into it?

4 out of the last five boats have been 40 plus years old. Average ownership duration of say 5 years. That means that i have lived with the wiring, plumbing and blundering mechanicing of around 30 amateur boat fettlers

Retro fit hatches in cockpit floors are tough to keep in good nick. People keep on jumping on them

It is plan C though....see above

d

 

[Kris Cringle]

'Spawn of the devil', like sleeping dogs they lie on the cockpit sole, just waiting to bite.     I call mine a 'manhole', which come to think of it, is equally disturbing. 

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

At the moment I have no rpm being recorded on the tachometer

One more job on the list

Not sure where the signal is being lost between the engine and the dial

The boat has a lot of wiring done with house wire ....

D

The house wiring is bad news but replaceable over time. You'll have to whether you want to or not.

WRT the tachometer I fitted one to my boat - it reads way low so I disconnected it. I just use a non-contact laser tachometer instead, bit of reflective tape on the flywheel and done. You get a pretty quick feel for throttle setting and rpm once you can spot-check with the tacho gun. I may never bother trying to sort out the other tacho. Seems to be a right PITA to sort - setting the dip switches gets it to read high or low but never what the laser indicates. I'd have to tweak the alternator pulley ratios to get it correct and frankly, my dear, I don't give that much of a damn....

I also have no fuel gauges though my day tank does have a sight gauge. When it gets to half full I pump it back up which is approx 20 litres and make a log entry to that effect. Ditto with transferring fuel into the keel tanks - it's done via 10 litre containers so easy to keep track.

So far I haven't run out of fuel anyway.

FKT

 

[kent_island_sailor]

At the moment I can live with the main engine randomly stopping

I am an East coaster, the tidethrough the bar at Felixstowe ferry is an easy 3 knots

The tohatsu is just one tug away from giving me 4 knots through the water. I am always ready to turn around.

The tohatsu reduces the risks from engine failure....as long as the tohatsu starts of course

D

Outboards are not an option for my boat and the gauges were cheap

* also note turning around is not an option with current and wind behind you and a closed bridge ahead of you

 

[dylan winter]

I have no bridges

And I can always turn around and run with the tide

All I need is stearage

D

 

[olaf hart]

Love the way you are setting up an ongoing narrative for your next video series Dylan, will the old sailor succeed despite chronic diesel infection...

Perhaps you could handicap yourself with an old CQR as well, just to keep up the tension.

 And there are always the flare ups as you light the stove, who needs T&A when disaster is always looming?

 

[dylan winter]

Love the way you are setting up an ongoing narrative for your next video series Dylan, will the old sailor succeed despite chronic diesel infection...

Perhaps you could handicap yourself with an old CQR as well, just to keep up the tension.

 And there are always the flare ups as you light the stove, who needs T&A when disaster is always looming?

Dan forth

The shittest anchors ever made

D

 

[olaf hart]

Dan forth

The shittest anchors ever made

D

I will raise you a Flook...

 

[dylan winter]

11 minutes ago, olaf hart said:

I will raise you a Flook...

Flook

Fook

D

 

[IStream]

Love the way you are setting up an ongoing narrative for your next video series Dylan, will the old sailor succeed despite chronic diesel infection...

Perhaps you could handicap yourself with an old CQR as well, just to keep up the tension.

 And there are always the flare ups as you light the stove, who needs T&A when disaster is always looming?

Look how far he went with a bog brush and a flower pot! 

Dylan's the master of cheap props + questionable judgement = kindly interest.

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

Look how far he went with a bog brush and a flower pot! 

Dylan's the master of cheap props + questionable judgement = kindly interest.

More like the master of making a distaste for basic and simple maintenance into an art form... while making more work for himself over the long term than the investment in doing the job correctly the first time.

FKT

 

[dylan winter]

More like the master of making a distaste for basic and simple maintenance into an art form... while making more work for himself over the long term than the investment in doing the job correctly the first time.

FKT

I think that is a bit sharp

I sail more than most people I know and I live in a sailing village

Monday and Tuesday I did a December overnight on the Walton backwaters even with 14,000 different microbial species slopping around my tank

It was a marvelous evening and morning sail, birds, tides, seals, sunshine and creeks.

I sailed out of the East coasts second toughest bar, across the shipping lanes of Felixstowe, in to the backwaters, back up the coast through the bar and a lovely three sail reach up the deben

Better for the soul than head down in a diesel engine well for two days while clad in boiler suit and rubber gloves

So far the suggestions include cutting holes in the boat, removing tank and engine, fitting pressure gauge, employing a professional scrubber

I will keep you posted as to how the gunge buster does

Once I have beaten the bug I will post a snap on the transom sans tohatsu

  ... although the tohatsu will be slumbering in the quarter berth out of site and out of mind

d

 

[Steam Flyer]

Love the way you are setting up an ongoing narrative for your next video series Dylan, will the old sailor succeed despite chronic diesel infection...

Perhaps you could handicap yourself with an old CQR as well, just to keep up the tension.

 And there are always the flare ups as you light the stove, who needs T&A when disaster is always looming?

I was thinking along these lines but you worded it very kindly

BTW you do NOT want gunk going -thru- the filter into your injector pump and injectors. They are very fussy, VERY expensive, and amazingly robust until suddenly they are not. The whole point of a filter is to protect your engine and keep it's sensitive parts from getting corroded, abraded, or otherwise fucked up

- DSK

 

[kent_island_sailor]

I was thinking along these lines but you worded it very kindly

BTW you do NOT want gunk going -thru- the filter into your injector pump and injectors. They are very fussy, VERY expensive, and amazingly robust until suddenly they are not. The whole point of a filter is to protect your engine and keep it's sensitive parts from getting corroded, abraded, or otherwise fucked up

- DSK

Yeah - there is point where being too cheap to go buy a $10 gauge off Ebay and then acting surprised when the engine stops is silly and poor seamanship. And you REALLY REALLY don't want dissolved goo of any kind in your high pressure big $$$ pump. The fuel cleaner trucks that come around and clean your tank exist for a reason

 

[Steam Flyer]

I was thinking along these lines but you worded it very kindly

BTW you do NOT want gunk going -thru- the filter into your injector pump and injectors. They are very fussy, VERY expensive, and amazingly robust until suddenly they are not. The whole point of a filter is to protect your engine and keep it's sensitive parts from getting corroded, abraded, or otherwise fucked up

Yeah - there is point where being too cheap or too silly to go buy a $10 gauge of Ebay and then acting surprised when the engine stops is silly and poor seamanship. And you REALLY REALLY don't want dissolved goo of any kind in your high pressure big $$$ pump. The fuel cleaner trucks that come around and clean your tank exist for a reason 

Well, one way around the problem is to get up some generous folk to Amazon Dylan a new Racor with gages, ~60ish ft (just a rough guess) of fuel hose, and a dozen or so 2m filter elements.

I've never had anybody give me an answer as to why they are worried that their fuel might become TOO clean.

- DSK

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

I think that is a bit sharp

I sail more than most people I know and I live in a sailing village

And that has precisely nothing at all to do with proper maintenance and your oft demonstrated distaste for doing same.

No doubt if the injector pump packs it in, or the injector nozzles get badly eroded due to the gunk quite unnecessarily being forced through them, it'll all be the fault of the engine manufacturer and nothing to to with the owner(s).

At least half a dozen qualified people have informed you of the proper and reliable way of fixing this issue and you've ignored all of them to pursue some magic fix involving no effort.

I live over the hill from the biggest marina and hard-stand in southern Tasmania, surrounded by people who sail a lot, as do I. I was having a chat with one who's sailed most of the way around Australia in a 30' boat with an old diesel engine. His attitude to maintenance and how he has his fuel set up is almost identical to mine.

Find one person on this site who agrees with the way you're approaching this. I doubt you can.

But carry on - it's your boat.

FKT

 

[py26129]

4 out of the last five boats have been 40 plus years old. Average ownership duration of say 5 years. That means that i have lived with the wiring, plumbing and blundering mechanicing of around 30 amateur boat fettlers

Those are called SPOTs around here. "Stupid "P"revious "O"wner "T"ricks

 

[chester]

2 hours ago, olaf hart said:

I will raise you a Flook...

that's fucking brilliant!!

 

[Ajax]

'Spawn of the devil', like sleeping dogs they lie on the cockpit sole, just waiting to bite.     I call mine a 'manhole', which come to think of it, is equally disturbing. 

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Oh,  you have TWO little dogs.  That poodley thing must be your wife's dog.  Your dog is much more "The craftsman's loyal companion. "

 

[fufkin]

‘I was thinking of kind of getting around to fixing my engine but it’s not really mission critical because I’ve rigged up an outboard to pick up the slack in the meantime so I’m gonna limp along and go with the least thorough easiest band aid measure available to me and put off the inevitable for the foreseeable future and not  let it get in the way of essential bird watching.’

I had a buddy like this in high school. He almost took pride in the fact that he could accidentally somehow get his car to hold together with bubble gum and duct tape. It was some kind of reverse badge of honour...as long as it didn’t get in the way of bird watching, he was good to go.