Dip start after the gun

[Svanen]

Yes of course the RC has read the RRS. They just seem to want to dumb the rules down for twilight racing, where most of the entrants are inexperienced. I have argued against it.

You might tell them that World Sailing wants to standardize NoRs and SIs so that competitors encounter the same terms at different regattas (including in different countries) with as few modifications as possible. That is the intent behind Rules 89.2(a), 90(2)(a), and Appendix J.

Not all class associations want to have it either. In my days of helping to run one, we never instigated such a conversation, nor were we asked.

The problem is that different competitors prefer different things. For example: cancel or abandon a race due to lack of wind and some people who like very light air will complain; start or condition a race in such conditions and (most) other sailors will complain.

If some members of a class association dislike an RO’s decisions, it is up to them to persuade the other members and elect a couple of representatives to speak to the RO reflecting the class’ preference. Very few ROs would be resistant to that approach.

 

[duncan (the other one)]

In general - people need to talk and help their RC and RO as much as possible.

Talk to them, and most of all, help out when you can!

They are mostly volunteers and don't need or appreciated random bitching about their decisions.

 

[Phil]

In general - people need to talk and help their RC and RO as much as possible.

Talk to them, and most of all, help out when you can!

They are mostly volunteers and don't need or appreciated random bitching about their decisions.

Thanks Duncan, being a NRO has it's moments. I tell sailors that they should assist at least once per season, rules and methods change.

 

[Gone Drinking]

If you have a RO that is not talking with the classes they need to be replaces. My thought is that when I am running races, the competitors are my customers. My job is to make as many as I can happy with the choices I make setting and running the race. If the 'customers' are happy chances are the OA is going to be happy. Win-win.

 

[danstanford]

If you have a RO that is not talking with the classes they need to be replaces. My thought is that when I am running races, the competitors are my customers. My job is to make as many as I can happy with the choices I make setting and running the race. If the 'customers' are happy chances are the OA is going to be happy. Win-win.

Gone, it is my impression that the job of RO is a thankless volunteer position and we should be happy with whoever gets onto that boat! I always say thanks as I swing by.

 

[knh555]

Gone, it is my impression that the job of RO is a thankless volunteer position and we should be happy with whoever gets onto that boat! I always say thanks as I swing by.

I couldn’t agree more. My comments about the black flag are aimed more at the rules. Something as simple as no black flags for the first two start attempts would seem reasonable to me. YMMV though. Give the volunteer RO guidance without turning it into a debate among the fleet with the RO on the receiving end.

 

[Gone Drinking]

I couldn’t agree more. My comments about the black flag are aimed more at the rules. Something as simple as no black flags for the first two start attempts would seem reasonable to me. YMMV though. Give the volunteer RO guidance without turning it into a debate among the fleet with the RO on the receiving end.

There are some classes that agree to 1 general recall go direct to the black. The question becomes why a general, if from a fucked up line - FIX IT!