Do Libertarians Still Exist?

[billy backstay]

There are plenty of threads for those things.

I didn't notice the LP tweet in Ish's post so thanks for extracting it.

Not sure wtf they're talking about. Is there some actual criminal allegation that I've missed? I know of no reason to lock her up.

One can only assume that came from the Trumptard camp. Anyone who opposes their Big Chief Monster of all Grifters should be removed permanently from the playing field, according to them...
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[Bus Driver]

I don't know any libertarians that think they have different rights than anyone else. Saying so is just a straw man and is stupid.

You could just shorten that to the first 5 words.

 

[jzk]

You could just shorten that to the first 5 words.

For a concept that people on this forum think doesn't exist, they sure do get all hot and bothered over it. Almost makes one think you aren't being honest. If someone tried to post that the earth was flat, I don't think you would be as threatened as you seem to be over libertarianism.

 

[Raz'r]

Can’t say I’ve seen a libertarian, kinda like unicorns shitting rainbow soft-serve. Sounds good in theory, in practice, kinda nasty creatures.

 

[SloopJonB]

Can’t say I’ve seen a libertarian, kinda like unicorns shitting rainbow soft-serve. Sounds good in theory, in practice, kinda nasty creatures.

Exactly - people who call themselves Libertarians are simply the ultimate refinement of "Fuck you, I've got mine".

 

[Olsonist]

That was pretty funny to read, but I think it shouldn't have been a surprise. I am constantly reminded that politics is a circle, not a line. The Foxxified endless fearmongering about a far-left Marxist takeover of the USA has always been ridiculous, the "far left" or what passes for it here will endlessly divide and fight among themselves.
It appears the Libertarians are no different

I'm not sure what you mean by circle but be that as it may.

I do know a few far left types. There really aren't very many. One is a Green Party and was easily manipulated by Russian agitprop to hate, hate, hate Hillary. The other I think is Greenish. He was sharing a meme about Jackson MS and a Cal buddy and I were simply abusing him. Pretty much the same. My experience with the far left is that they're a lot like the right wing Fakebertarians, muddle headed and easily manipulated.

 

[Olsonist]

One can only assume that came from the Trumptard camp. Anyone who opposes their Big Chief Monster of all Grifters should be removed permanently from the playing field, according to them...
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The Tweet is still up.

 

[jzk]

Exactly - people who call themselves Libertarians are simply the ultimate refinement of "Fuck you, I've got mine".

This is a fake argument. Libertarians support the social economic system that has brought more ordinary people out of grinding poverty than any other system.

 

[Bus Driver]

This is a fake argument. Libertarians support the social economic system that has brought more ordinary people out of grinding poverty than any other system.

Oh, cool. We're back to "grinding poverty".

By the way - Libertarianism ≠ Capitalism. You've credited Capitalism for lifting a huge chunk (I think you cited 95%) of the world out of "grinding poverty".

As for Libertarians - I am not threatened by them. I just find them interesting that they embrace the theory, but not always the practice.

 

[jzk]

Oh, cool. We're back to "grinding poverty".

As for Libertarians - I am not threatened by them. I just find them interesting that they embrace the theory, but not always the practice.

Libertarianism and capitalism are social economic systems. They are not about choosing to practice them other than voting. Socialism is usually a system of government force. It is imposed on people. No one has a choice of whether or not to have fica taken from them.

The cool thing about libertarianism and capitalism is that if you like socialism, you can still do it in a libertarian system. Just get together with like minded folks and pay for each other's stuff. You won't do this, however, because in order for it to work, you need other people's money.

 

[Voyageur]

Libertarianism and capitalism are social economic systems. They are not about choosing to practice them other than voting. Socialism is usually a system of government force. It is imposed on people. No one has a choice of whether or not to have fica taken from them.

The cool thing about libertarianism and capitalism is that if you like socialism, you can still do it in a libertarian system. Just get together with like minded folks and pay for each other's stuff. You won't do this, however, because in order for it to work, you need other people's money.

who pays for the infrastructure that allows our economy to be productive?

 

[Steam Flyer]

who pays for the infrastructure that allows our economy to be productive?

Suckers

 

[Raz'r]

Libertarianism and capitalism are social economic systems. They are not about choosing to practice them other than voting. Socialism is usually a system of government force. It is imposed on people. No one has a choice of whether or not to have fica taken from them.

The cool thing about libertarianism and capitalism is that if you like socialism, you can still do it in a libertarian system. Just get together with like minded folks and pay for each other's stuff. You won't do this, however, because in order for it to work, you need other people's money.

Y’all keep redefining libertarianism. So much so that it’s clearly true there is not “true” libertarian.

 

[jzk]

who pays for the infrastructure that allows our economy to be productive?

All sorts of ways to do it under different systems. Government is not the only and certainly not the best answer.

 

[Voyageur]

Somalia is a true libertarian paradise.

 

[Voyageur]

All sorts of ways to do it under different systems. Government is not the only and certainly not the best answer.

that is the kind of answer that i would expect. no answer at all. i would assume, no govt means no border enforcement funds as well, right? maybe no more borders.

 

[jzk]

that is the kind of answer that i would expect. no answer at all. i would assume, no govt means no border enforcement funds as well, right? maybe no more borders.

Who said no government? Talk about a straw man.

 

[kent_island_sailor]

Libertarianism and capitalism are social economic systems. They are not about choosing to practice them other than voting. Socialism is usually a system of government force. It is imposed on people. No one has a choice of whether or not to have fica taken from them.

The cool thing about libertarianism and capitalism is that if you like socialism, you can still do it in a libertarian system. Just get together with like minded folks and pay for each other's stuff. You won't do this, however, because in order for it to work, you need other people's money.

You are a great example of how divorced libertarians are from reality.
First, a LOT of political parties support capitalism. It sure as shit was not invented by libertarians and predates them by centuries.
Second, plenty of countries choose social-democrat parties and can freely vote them out if they want to.
Third, every government in the history of the world "is a system of government force", otherwise it would be a debating society

 

[jzk]

You are a great example of how divorced libertarians are from reality.
First, a LOT of political parties support capitalism. It sure as shit was not invented by libertarians and predates them by centuries.
Second, plenty of countries choose social-democrat parties and can freely vote them out if they want to.
Third, every government in the history of the world "is a system of government force", otherwise it would be a debating society

Whe that is all mildly interesting, none of that contradicts anything I have said.

 

[Swimsailor]