Does being a social democrat preclude being wealthy?

HuronBouy

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There seems to be a trope from righties that a social democrat that is wealthy is somehow a hypocrite. 

Can someone please explain???   How these things related. Bernie Sanders does not want everyone to have the same amount of money (middle class incomes????) he wants very wealth people to pay more tax and close income disparity. 

 

jerseyguy

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There seems to be a trope from righties that a social democrat that is wealthy is somehow a hypocrite. 

Can someone please explain???   How these things related. Bernie Sanders does not want everyone to have the same amount of money (middle class incomes????) he wants very wealth people to pay more tax and close income disparity. 
Righties  cognitive complexity ranges from zero to negative numbers.

 

Sol Rosenberg

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One of my favorite Foxy memes is treating democRATS like hypocrites if they don't live in cardboard boxes.  You see that from the moron squad here, giving @B.J. Porter shit for living the dream better than they could ever accomplish. 

 

d'ranger

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One of my favorite Foxy memes is treating democRATS like hypocrites if they don't live in cardboard boxes.  You see that from the moron squad here, giving @B.J. Porter shit for living the dream better than they could ever accomplish. 
To top it off if you are poor it's because you are lazy and/or stupid.  Deep States, Shallow Thoughts.

 

Bus Driver

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There seems to be a trope from righties that a social democrat that is wealthy is somehow a hypocrite. 

Can someone please explain???   How these things related. Bernie Sanders does not want everyone to have the same amount of money (middle class incomes????) he wants very wealth people to pay more tax and close income disparity. 
Why you gotta get all factual, and stuff?

That requires some thinking.

They don't wanna.

 

Happy

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Some of those that created their own wealth in honest ways are intelligent and aware enough to support  a view of a better life for all.

Some are heartless sociopaths, they hang out with (and exploit) the dumb angry racist mob. There's money in MAGA.

 

BeSafe

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I think it's mostly just a squabble over branding.  Strawmen arguements combined with good ole fashioned binning   

 

Ease the sheet.

ignoring stupid people is easy
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I think wealth has a relationship with intelligence rather than politics.

Of course politics may have a relationship with intelligence, so....

 

Saorsa

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I think wealth has a relationship with intelligence rather than politics.

Of course politics may have a relationship with intelligence, so....
Maybe, but a lot of the sports/entertainment rich end up broke.

If they were smart they wouldn't have to bribe folks to get their kids into schools.

 

Ease the sheet.

ignoring stupid people is easy
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Maybe, but a lot of the sports/entertainment rich end up broke.

If they were smart they wouldn't have to bribe folks to get their kids into schools.
Since when does running fast make a person intelligent?

I'm not sure "intelligence" means what you think it means. Not surprised either.

 
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Pertinacious Tom

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Some of those that created their own wealth in honest ways are intelligent and aware enough to support  a view of a better life for all.
That's true.

And some even go beyond living a luxurious dream while yammering on the internet and instead spend their time working for charity and employing people who are virtually unemployable (need rides to work, have to be paid daily) so that they stop seeing them in the charity line.

The guy I know who does those things thinks he is pleasing his Sky Fairy, so is really only worthy of derision. And that would be Catholic charity, so extra-bad.

 

BeSafe

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Yeah, we need labels so it's easy to respond without thinking.
That's it really.  You don't have to actually think about an argument if you know you just 'hate liberals' or 'hate religion' or whatever.

The two party system works great for binary (yes/no) kind of thinking but it does create problems when people slip in to your tent you don't like or you have a run of bad elections and suddenly 'liberal' becomes a bad word so then you become 'progressive' or whatever.  Rebranding!  Deviled Ham sounds much better than Pink Slime after all. 

Social Democrat is popular because of Bernie.  He was a way to be a Democrat without being part of the orthodoxy under Clinton.  That makes people feel cool and special without really taking any risk.  Bernie himself really does have that old-school socialist bend but he gets away with it because of the crazy uncle bit - we like him at dinner parties because he's got some interesting ideas and certainly speaks with passion but no, we're not giving him the checkbook.   Social democrats get attacked because there's enough of them to matter and the easiest trope to rope them with is as a 'rebranded' limousine liberal.

Money just amplifies personality.  If you're a good person, money allows that goodness to impact more people.  If you're an asshole, money amplifies that as well.  

 
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Saorsa

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Since when does running fast make a person intelligent?

I'm not sure "intelligence" means what you think it means. Not surprised either.
It doesn't.

I'm not sure you understand much of anything.

When you figure out that wealth is nice but cash flow pays the bills you might understand why some folks aren't quite as envious as others.

 

Movable Ballast

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There seems to be a trope from righties that a social democrat that is wealthy is somehow a hypocrite. 

Can someone please explain???   How these things related. Bernie Sanders does not want everyone to have the same amount of money (middle class incomes????) he wants very wealth people to pay more tax and close income disparity. 
No not at all, the difference is it's much easier to be a socialist when you are rich!  

 

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