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[Pertinacious Tom]

I'll bet a dollar to a donut that you did not go out in public dressed like that.

True, I leave the safety goggles at home.

 

[Jkdubz808]

I use a/s on one car and dedicated winter tires in one because I like “extreme summer” tires a lot on that car and they do very poorly when it gets cold and white. With a spare set of tires, it takes a floor jack and less than an hour to swap twice a year. 

Thats what I did when I used to live where it snowed.  Even with all-terrain tires on my SUV the added grip of dedicated winter tires was key in quite a few situations during that time.  

 

[billy backstay]

You use dedicated winter tires?  I’m in WI (granted, the southern part) an I use all season radials on my cars.  Of course the philosophy around here is that the roads in January should look like the roads in July.  Come the end of winter and before the Spring rains arrive, the roads are usually blacked white from the road salt.  

Yes, the WRX only comes with expensive, high performance summer tires.  I got a set of 2 year old General Altimax ice and snow tires from a WRX owner why changed to all weather tires after a year or two.  They are great!  And I got them for a good price.  The high performance tires that the car comes with are lousy in ice and snow.....

 

[jerseyguy]

Yes, the WRX only comes with expensive, high performance summer tires.  I got a set of 2 year old General Altimax ice and snow tires from a WRX owner why changed to all weather tires after a year or two.  They are great!  And I got them for a good price.  The high performance tires that the car comes with are lousy in ice and snow.....

Understood.  In my 911 driving days the car sat in the garage if there was snow within 100 miles.  Even in the dry it took a long time to get the tires warm.

 

[kent_island_sailor]

Understood.  In my 911 driving days the car sat in the garage if there was snow within 100 miles.  Even in the dry it took a long time to get the tires warm.

My 914 was an *awesome* snow car I almost never drove it in the snow though, it rusted on a humid day, never mind being exposed to salt My experience with an old 911 in snow was it would never get stuck, but where it went while not being stuck was kind of random

 

[kent_island_sailor]

Kinda goes without saying doesn't it?

Seriously - some people hate being hot, some people hate being cold. I hate being cold. I can sit on the boat on a 100 degree day and read a book while drinking a rum and coke on ice and be happy.

 

[jerseyguy]

My 914 was an *awesome* snow car I almost never drove it in the snow though, it rusted on a humid day, never mind being exposed to salt My experience with an old 911 in snow was it would never get stuck, but where it went while not being stuck was kind of random

I had a ‘73 914.  Fun car.  Damn near could hear it rust.  Good thing I wasn’t anywhere near salt water.  So underpowered, even with the 2.0 liter engine it was virtually impossible to get into any trouble.  Traded it in for a dealer demo 911T targa.  Fun ride.  Was heading home from work one night and it started to snow although no snow in the forecast.  Road was barely snow covered, no real depth. Came to a stop sign and started braking about 100’ from the intersection even though my speed was down to 20mph or so.  Skidded right through the intersection and did a very low impact hit against a curb.  Only the tires hit.  No damage.  Literally tiptoed the car home, put it in the garage and that was it for several months.  

Fast forward a few decades.  Boxster was great and my last 911 was better yet but still stayed in the garage during winter.  Those days are over.  Drive a boring but extremely reliable American sedan.  Granddaughters will want weddings and college.  They need that more than I need another Porsche

 

[Steam Flyer]

Understood.  In my 911 driving days the car sat in the garage if there was snow within 100 miles.  Even in the dry it took a long time to get the tires warm.

My 914 was an *awesome* snow car I almost never drove it in the snow though, it rusted on a humid day, never mind being exposed to salt My experience with an old 911 in snow was it would never get stuck, but where it went while not being stuck was kind of random

And having chains on do not help. Ask me how I know.

- DSK

 

[Grande Mastere Dreade]

I'm loving this weather!  Time to get outside and enjoy it! B)

get to work on that boat...  it'll be hot soon

 

[jerseyguy]

And having chains on do not help. Ask me how I know.

- DSK

How do you know (afraid to ask but too nosy not to)

 

[SloopJonB]

My 914 was an *awesome* snow car I almost never drove it in the snow though, it rusted on a humid day, never mind being exposed to salt My experience with an old 911 in snow was it would never get stuck, but where it went while not being stuck was kind of random

Ditto.

Old Porsches were worse than old Chrysler products for rusting out.

I had a 912 that rusted through the rocker panel at age 8. The body shop found a shop rag in it - soaking wet naturally.

That famous German craftsmanship.

The 914 was dangerously rusted at 6 years old.

 

[SloopJonB]

 Granddaughters will want weddings and college.  They need that more than I need another Porsche

WTF are your children not paying for them?

You deserve some nice toys at your age.

 

[jerseyguy]

WTF are your children not paying for them?

You deserve some nice toys at your age.

My kids are doing very well and well set financially.  I’m simply following a family tradition and paying it forward.  My parents were factory workers and I got through college with no loans and no debts.  My wife and I did the same for our kids.  Our sons will do the same for their kids but I’m prepared to help if necessary.

After 5 Porsche’s, 4 Audi’s and several sailboats I’ve had more than my share of toys.  I’m into life simplification and want to shed as much unnecessary detritus as I can before I check out. I’m buying $50 a dozen golf balls. No more X outs.  

 

[bridhb]

That could explain a lot with my life!

 

[kent_island_sailor]

I had a ‘73 914.  Fun car.  Damn near could hear it rust.  Good thing I wasn’t anywhere near salt water.  So underpowered, even with the 2.0 liter engine it was virtually impossible to get into any trouble.  Traded it in for a dealer demo 911T targa.  Fun ride.  Was heading home from work one night and it started to snow although no snow in the forecast.  Road was barely snow covered, no real depth. Came to a stop sign and started braking about 100’ from the intersection even though my speed was down to 20mph or so.  Skidded right through the intersection and did a very low impact hit against a curb.  Only the tires hit.  No damage.  Literally tiptoed the car home, put it in the garage and that was it for several months.  

Fast forward a few decades.  Boxster was great and my last 911 was better yet but still stayed in the garage during winter.  Those days are over.  Drive a boring but extremely reliable American sedan.  Granddaughters will want weddings and college.  They need that more than I need another Porsche

I wish I still had mine. With the big bore high compression cylinder set I was at 2.2 liters IIRC. That plus twin dual-throat Del'Ortos and a nice cam had me with a fair bit more power than a stock 914-6 or 911T in a car that weighted about 2100 pounds. I thought I was king of the autocross until a Porsche racing team showed up with TWO 914s on a trailer that both had 3.0 liter 911 engines and open exhausts. I think I realized I got beat when they started them up, the sound alone was amazing

The HP hierarchy was something like:

1.7/1.8 liter 4 - about 75 HP.

2.0 liter 4 - about 100

2.0 liter 6 - about 120

3.0 liter modded SC - probably over 250!

Remember all of this in a car hundreds of pounds lighter than a modern Miata

 

[jerseyguy]

I wish I still had mine. With the big bore high compression cylinder set I was at 2.2 liters IIRC. That plus twin dual-throat Del'Ortos and a nice cam had me with a fair bit more power than a stock 914-6 or 911T in a car that weighted about 2100 pounds. I thought I was king of the autocross until a Porsche racing team showed up with TWO 914s on a trailer that both had 3.0 liter 911 engines and open exhausts. I think I realized I got beat when they started them up, the sound alone was amazing

The HP hierarchy was something like:

1.7/1.8 liter 4 - about 75 HP.

2.0 liter 4 - about 100

2.0 liter 6 - about 120

3.0 liter modded SC - probably over 250!

Remember all of this in a car hundreds of pounds lighter than a modern Miata

Great story.  I’m not even king of my own neighborhood.  “Kid” (he’s probably in his early to mid 40s) about 3 houses from mine has a Ferrari 308.  Primitive beast if there ever was one.  He has a new Alfa Giulia but he got it in silver rather than red.  He also has a few other things like some 60s land cruiser convertible and a GTO in its reincarnated form.  At least he keeps most of the collection in a storage building at the family run business rather than make the neighborhood look like a used car lot.

 

[Jules]

Seriously - some people hate being hot, some people hate being cold. I hate being cold. I can sit on the boat on a 100 degree day and read a book while drinking a rum and coke on ice and be happy.

What's your rum?

 

[MR.CLEAN]

She, and Japan, beg to differ:

Not sandals, Zori.  Not japanese, chinese american.

 

[kent_island_sailor]

What's your rum?

Black Seal, Capt. Morgan, or Lyons from the local distillery in Saint Mikes.

http://lyondistilling.com/

 

[Steam Flyer]

I wish I still had mine. With the big bore high compression cylinder set I was at 2.2 liters IIRC. That plus twin dual-throat Del'Ortos and a nice cam had me with a fair bit more power than a stock 914-6 or 911T in a car that weighted about 2100 pounds. I thought I was king of the autocross until a Porsche racing team showed up with TWO 914s on a trailer that both had 3.0 liter 911 engines and open exhausts. I think I realized I got beat when they started them up, the sound alone was amazing

The HP hierarchy was something like:

1.7/1.8 liter 4 - about 75 HP.

2.0 liter 4 - about 100

2.0 liter 6 - about 120

3.0 liter modded SC - probably over 250!

Remember all of this in a car hundreds of pounds lighter than a modern Miata

IIRC the late '60s 911-S had a 2.2 and then slightly bigger, compression somewhere around 9.?/1. Every successive model year they put bigger engines in.

Mine had the five speed, which I don't believe they ever paired with the bigger engines. Bought it in North Florida and spent some winters in the Midwest and one (only one!) winter in Boston, which is where I sold it. I guy in the suburbs of Chicago showed me a trick of deflating the tires slightly, then putting on the chains, then re-flating them. Made it easier but the chains do not help a car with most of it's weight in it's butt.

It would not spin out on slick stuff so much as it would just go straight. You had to be very careful to do all braking well before any turns or off into the ditch. Then once in a while, just to keep you guessing, it would spin 180 and THEN go straight no matter you did with the steering wheel.

I took to creeping around like an old lady in snowy/icy conditions. Never put more than a minor dent in it.

- DSK