Don't MoveTo Florida

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Actually another stupid ( not ignorant) conclusion based on the facts. The gators are literally everywhere there is a body of fresh water. Many of the newer residential areas have manmade retention ponds and lakes, a further attraction and habitat. I don’t have a problem with them but they do need a population culling
The first sentence I agree 100% with, but like to add with salt water there's sharks, accept Bull Sharks are Bi, both salt and fresh.
Maybe the FWC, should hand out a waiver to be signed prior to moving to Florida of the wildlife, dangers.
The only culling that should go on in Florida. The most destructive, to nature here is Jerseyites Then all is good Gators happy, sharks happy and Locals happy
 

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The most destructive, to nature here is Jerseyites
I dunno, the midwesterners and californians are right up there for that, and "local" developers are complicit as well. f'rinstance:

 

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veni vidi vici

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many Insurance companies leaving Florida, and cancelling Policies, why Greed,
It's been a while since a major hurricane really hit Florida, so the Insurance doing the odds want out before the next big one hits
Like shopping for health insurance we should be able to have a national base to spread the risk over a broad base. But no the K Street string pullers won’t allow that. So insurance companies make a financial killing in some states and jack up rates in others.
 

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Like shopping for health insurance we should be able to have a national base to spread the risk over a broad base. But no the K Street string pullers won’t allow that. So insurance companies make a financial killing in some states and jack up rates in others.

sigh.

The real problem is that there is no profit in health care for poor people. "Spreading the risk" doesn't mean shit.
 
many Insurance companies leaving Florida, and cancelling Policies, why Greed,
It's been a while since a major hurricane really hit Florida, so the Insurance doing the odds want out before the next big one hits
Define a while. My community is still digging out of this one just 4 years ago. Of course we aren’t as densely populated as say Dade, but this was an ass kicker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Michael

Hurricane Michael was a very powerful and destructive tropical cyclone that became the first Category 5 hurricane to make landfall in the contiguous United States since Andrew in 1992. Additionally, it was the third-most intense Atlantic hurricane to make landfall in the contiguous United States in terms of pressure, behind the 1935 Labor Day hurricane and Hurricane Camille in 1969. It was the first Category 5 hurricane on record to impact the Florida Panhandle, the fourth-strongest landfalling hurricane in the contiguous United States, in terms of wind speed, and the most intense hurricane on record to strike the United States in the month of October.
 

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Define a while. My community is still digging out of this one just 4 years ago. Of course we aren’t as densely populated as say Dade, but this was an ass kicker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Michael

Hurricane Michael was a very powerful and destructive tropical cyclone that became the first Category 5 hurricane to make landfall in the contiguous United States since Andrew in 1992. Additionally, it was the third-most intense Atlantic hurricane to make landfall in the contiguous United States in terms of pressure, behind the 1935 Labor Day hurricane and Hurricane Camille in 1969. It was the first Category 5 hurricane on record to impact the Florida Panhandle, the fourth-strongest landfalling hurricane in the contiguous United States, in terms of wind speed, and the most intense hurricane on record to strike the United States in the month of October.
Thanks for the update, I was thinking more like Andrew hitting Miami,
I've been in Florida 15+ years, I got a scratch on my boat a few years back in Martin Cty.
Can you Imagine a cat 5 hitting the east coast from Palm Beach County south, with all the new building, and the damage to the infrastructure,
it would take years to rebuild
 

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Like shopping for health insurance we should be able to have a national base to spread the risk over a broad base. But no the K Street string pullers won’t allow that. So insurance companies make a financial killing in some states and jack up rates in others.
I agree, it seems to work in other countries, but that may bring out the worst word in the english language SOCIALISM,
Funny you tell some to fuck off and they say OK, call them a Socialist and they want to shoot you.
 

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I agree, it seems to work in other countries, but that may bring out the worst word in the english language SOCIALISM,
Funny you tell some to fuck off and they say OK, call them a Socialist and they want to shoot you.
No I didn’t give a socialist solution. The same companies now offering coverage and quoting coverage nation wide
If you are insuring a home valued at say 385k in Montana and the premium is X the same premium in California for the insured value of 385k would be the same.
The insurance companies do not what to spread the risk, they want to cherry pick here and not there
 
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Like shopping for health insurance we should be able to have a national base to spread the risk over a broad base. But no the K Street string pullers won’t allow that. So insurance companies make a financial killing in some states and jack up rates in others.
Why should someone in Michigan subsidize someone in Florida's homeowners insurance. Risk should be spread of a group with a similar risk profile.
 

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Like shopping for health insurance we should be able to have a national base to spread the risk over a broad base.
back to cuba with you, commie fuck. The idea that I should subsidize the risk-loving folks that live in hurricane alley or the dry forests of california is straight out of marx. next thing you're gonna say is that the government should force states to send their water to arizona. You're a fucking communist and a hater of state's rights.

Free market says 'fuck you florida, pay the actual cost of your risky decision to locate here.' if Florida is such a great place to live and businesses are flocking there as desantis and his russian agent PR chick say, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
 

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Why should someone in Michigan subsidize someone in Florida's homeowners insurance. Risk should be spread of a group with a similar risk profile.
back to cuba with you, commie fuck. The idea that I should subsidize the risk-loving folks that live in hurricane alley or the dry forests of california is straight out of marx. next thing you're gonna say is that the government should force states to send their water to arizona. You're a fucking communist and a hater of state's rights.

Free market says 'fuck you florida, pay the actual cost of your risky decision to locate here.' if Florida is such a great place to live and businesses are flocking there as desantis and his russian agent PR chick say, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
Does your wife know you are on the internet again ?
Gotta pull your weight putting food on the table
 

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Health "insurance" is not a real insurance paradigm since there many incentives to use it routinely. In general, people don't intentionally wreck cars and burn down their own homes. So it's not a great comparison for true insurance.

If a building insurer is leaving the Florida market, they have basically decided they are more likely to lose money than make money. They are really into big data. If the airline's insurer refused to insure your flight today, would you still board if you knew that? What do they see that you don't?

Personally I would never move to FL. So flat as to be largely devoid of geographical landmarks IMHO. I hate the climate, even without hurricanes and the occasional wildfires. But the country derives some benefit from having somebody live there, if for no other reason than NASA and fishing. So we ought to help (within reasonable bounds) make it a livable place where people can raise kids. And if someone wants to live on a barrier island beach they can accept that personal risk with the commercial insurance markets.

After Hurricane Katrina some folks from non-gulf states opposed aid. But then Missouri gets a few tornados and Kentucky floods etc. and suddenly federal aid and loans and subsidies are a good thing. The West burns annually and Michigan has its own challenges with infrastructure and contamination. We are in this shit together and we need to decide if we are going to hang together as a nation or hang separately.
 

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back to cuba with you, commie fuck. The idea that I should subsidize the risk-loving folks that live in hurricane alley or the dry forests of california is straight out of marx. next thing you're gonna say is that the government should force states to send their water to arizona. You're a fucking communist and a hater of state's rights.

Free market says 'fuck you florida, pay the actual cost of your risky decision to locate here.' if Florida is such a great place to live and businesses are flocking there as desantis and his russian agent PR chick say, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
To me Insurance is the great American rip off, House, car, health, boat. Pay/pay/pay/pay, oh you want to submit a claim, we don't cover that, or the deductible is high, or it's a name storm....................
Rates go up why, cost of cars/houses up, so we have raise your premium, More and worst drivers so we raise your rates,

Look at how much the CEO/presidents of these companies make, that you pay.
You should look at the Forum I started this month Socialism/capitalism
We are in this shit together and we need to decide if we are going to hang together as a nation or hang separately.
 
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A relative of mine is about to move to Florida to be closer to family. Her relatives are Trumpers as far as I can tell. Her politics are centre-left. I don't see this going well at all.
 

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To me Insurance is the great American rip off, House, car, health, boat. Pay/pay/pay/pay, oh you want to submit a claim, we don't cover that, or the deductible is high, or it's a name storm....................
Rates go up why, cost of cars/houses up, so we have raise your premium, More and worst drivers so we raise your rates,

Look at how much the CEO/presidents of these companies make, that you pay.
You should look at the Forum I started this month Socialism/capitalism
Insurance is one of our biggest expenses - 2 cars, 2 houses, boat etc.

I have never been fucked over by an insurance company - well, except ICBC, our mandatory public auto insurance provider.

Insurance companies are like cops, lawyers and tow truck drivers - everyone loves to hate them until they need them.
 
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