Dr. Laura Rumor from this Weekend

[Antony]

So, there is a rumor circulating that Dr. Laura, after having learned that she had sailed the wrong course refused to drop out of the race becuase it would hurt her chances of winning the Ullman Inshore Series.

The story is that in the third race the Race Committee sent her class on the same course as the previous one (twice around W/L), however, they changed the weather mark to the short one from the long one for the previous class. Only one boat figured this out, and they sailed the shorter course.

One of the boats that sailed the longer course protested the one boat. In the arbitration room they learned that the one boat sailed the proper course. They also figured out that all of the boats, using the 'string theory', sailed the correct course except one. One boat (Dr. Laura's) sailed on a long starboard tack then came into the far windmark mark on port, thus leaving the correct mark on the wrong side. Evidently, the weather mark set boat confirmed this. However, it was too late to protest her.

One of the owners confronted her, after the race and explained the situation. She agreed that she had not sailed the course and when pressed to withdraw from the race only said "let me speak with my cres." By the next morning she had not withdrawn and explained that 'she'd discussed it with her crew and decided that it would hurt her chances of doing well in the Ullman Inshore Series if she took a last place in the 3rd race".

What a complete load of sh*t. She should bail, or we should let her know at every regatta that ensues that we believe her to be a cheat and should leave the sport.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

If what you have been told is accurate and that is the whole story, I'd say it sounds like an RAF situation to me.

 

[amolitor]

RAF and DSQ are the only choices on the table, really, unless she thinks she can get the entire race tossed for lousy RC work or something.

Pays to know your flags and signals, eh?

 

[NoStrings]

Maybe we all ought to take a field trip to her radio show and ask her what to do in this situation:

Dr. Laura, I play golf, it's a self policing sport, and if you knowingly commit a foul, you have to take your penalties, even if the penalty is disqualification. One of my fellow competitors knowingly broke the rules, and has admitted so, yet refuses to withdraw because it would......... You get the point.

I wonder how she would answer this.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Maybe we all ought to take a field trip to her radio show and ask her what to do in this situation:
Dr. Laura, I play golf, it's a self policing sport, and if you knowingly commit a foul, you have to take your penalties, even if the penalty is disqualification. One of my fellow competitors knowingly broke the rules, and has admitted so, yet refuses to withdraw because it would......... You get the point.

I wonder how she would answer this.

Field Trip?

 

[krispy kreme]

If she, or anyone else in her class did not sail the proper course why was she (or they)scored? If the mark set boat at the (furthest) windward mark recalled her (or any other boat in that class and in that race) rounding said mark, why didn't they communicate this to RC? Why didn't the RC abandon this race?

 

[TPG]

Field Trip?

Not legit.

No forums or ability to comment publicly on her real site (drlaura.com).

Any of the radio stations she's on have forums?

Time for Clean to put up an article on the front page to get her attention (again).

All the California stations she's on are on AM. :lol:

edit #132414123 sweet fucking jesus, she's ONLY on AM.

Talk about has been.

 

[Antony]

If she, or anyone else in her class did not sail the proper course why was she (or they)scored? If the mark set boat at the (furthest) windward mark recalled her (or any other boat in that class and in that race) rounding said mark, why didn't they communicate this to RC? Why didn't the RC abandon this race?

They were a markset boat and not equipped or allowed to 'black flag' people. It was not until they realized that the boat that sailed the shorter course had actually sailed the correct course. Thus, it was too late for a competitor to protest her. RAF is her only option.

 

[NoStrings]

Here's another approach:

Get the owners and crews together and buy a really nice trophy that resembles, but is not quite like the actual series perpetual metal. Present it to her midway through the Ullman series, "we know you'd do anything to win, so we're giving you this trophy".

It's brutal, but even a rock would get the point.

 

[Christian]

If she, or anyone else in her class did not sail the proper course why was she (or they)scored? If the mark set boat at the (furthest) windward mark recalled her (or any other boat in that class and in that race) rounding said mark, why didn't they communicate this to RC? Why didn't the RC abandon this race?

Why would the RC abandon the race? Just because most (but not all) the competitors couldn't figure out to sail the right course? Nah - that will teach them that the sheep mentality doesn't always work for the best

Are you saying that she sailed a longer course? The further windward mark? If that is the case then she may have sailed the course if she left the shorter weather mark to Port. No need to retire, just a bonehead move and if she placed well against the boat that sailed the shorter course...they must suck hard.

Read the post again - this time sloooooowly

 

[sailman]

nevermind

 

[wabbiteer]

If she, or anyone else in her class did not sail the proper course why was she (or they)scored? If the mark set boat at the (furthest) windward mark recalled her (or any other boat in that class and in that race) rounding said mark, why didn't they communicate this to RC? Why didn't the RC abandon this race?

RC may not DNF boats for failing to sail the course properly. See def of "finish." RC has the option of protesting the offending boats but is not required to do so. If the RC properly signaled the course change, then there is no reason for the RC to abandon. It seems odd that this went only to arbitration, not to a full jury.

 

[NoStrings]

KK,

When I get to a corner and see a course change flag, I know something is different. I may not be smart enough to know exactly what the change is, but I know what the flag is and what it means. Why should the RC abandon the race because some wanker couldn't figure out what a C flag means?

 

[Jonny_B]

My understanding is that everyone except one boat sailed the longer course. Of those who sailed the longer course, everyone happened to keep the short course windward mark to port except her. Basically, everyone screwed up except one boat, and all those who screwed up got lucky except her.

 

[TPG]

It seems odd that this went only to arbitration, not to a full jury.

Maybe she's blowing someone on the committee? <_<

 

[Antony]

RC may not DNF boats for failing to sail the course properly. See def of "finish." RC has the option of protesting the offending boats but is not required to do so. If the RC properly signaled the course change, then there is no reason for the RC to abandon. It seems odd that this went only to arbitration, not to a full jury.

As I understand it, there was no course change. The R/C changed the weather mark between starts, but kept the course the same. Thus, most of the boats in her class, including her, failed to catch the changed to a shorter windward mark. Only one boat did and they got protested for getting it right.

No good deed goes unpunished from that boat's perspective.

 

[wabbiteer]

As I understand it, there was no course change. The R/C changed the weather mark between starts, but kept the course the same. Thus, most of the boats in her class, including her, failed to catch the changed to a shorter windward mark. Only one boat did and they got protested for getting it right.
No good deed goes unpunished from that boat's perspective.

Maybe course change was a bad choice of words but there has to be something in the SIs to specify the mark change. My point is that if the RC followed the SIs there is no reason to abandon the race.

 

[amolitor]

Sounds like Dr. Laura might have been going to the wrong side of the course, anyways. How'd she do relative to the other boats on the wrong course?

 

[some dude]

what's it rate?