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[d'ranger]

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-trumps-inauguration-paid-trumps-company-with-ivanka-in-the-middle

Nothingburger to see here - move along.

 

[weightless]

Female. DemocRAT. 

That but mostly she's a long term elite politician. It's a job like sin eating or executioning that, if done for a time with some success, inevitably makes folks hate thems that toil at it just because of the nature of the work.

 

[Bent Sailor]

What would it take for Democrats to vote against impeachment given that they are campaigning for it prior to having a case at all?

Did all the Democrats in the house / senate campaign on that or are you just making things up again? Pretty sure it wasn't a campaign promise for everyone that got elected, but I'd be happy to see you back up your shit with some proof.

 

[Bent Sailor]

Why? Seriously?

Seriously? Because to the Republicans willing to take to the streets, gun in hand, the hatred that's been stoked against Hillary can easily be turned against Pelosi. The issue wasn't the imagined crimes the right-wing shock jocks (& GOP) tried to pin on her - they were always the excuse. Seeing a pantsuit-wearing, politically powerful Democratic woman beat their "strongman" GOP alternative is exactly the image they've been coaxed into a spittle-flecked rage over for years. Remember, these are people that would (& probably still do) buy Glenn Beck's conspiracies.

Reason & rationality isn't going to have any part of said rebellion. The "faithful" don't need an excuse, Jones, Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck will fill in the blanks for them, they just need to get angry.

 

[SloopJonB]

So - you admit that you're crowing and making a lotta noise about nothing?    Cool. 

Isn't that what this place is for?

 

[SloopJonB]

If the general public are anything like Not Guilty they will *never* accept it.

But....but....but - he's got principles.

 

[Left Shift]

Seriously? Because to the Republicans willing to take to the streets, gun in hand, the hatred that's been stoked against Hillary can easily be turned against Pelosi. The issue wasn't the imagined crimes the right-wing shock jocks (& GOP) tried to pin on her - they were always the excuse. Seeing a pantsuit-wearing, politically powerful Democratic woman beat their "strongman" GOP alternative is exactly the image they've been coaxed into a spittle-flecked rage over for years. Remember, these are people that would (& probably still do) buy Glenn Beck's conspiracies.

Reason & rationality isn't going to have any part of said rebellion. The "faithful" don't need an excuse, Jones, Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck will fill in the blanks for them, they just need to get angry.

I thought Beck quit, took his social justice blackboard and went pretty much just on-line.  Is he back?

 

[learningJ24]

The thoughtful on the right didn’t vote for him last time. It is Trump’s Party now.

I disagree, I think there were those on the right that saw Trump as a vehicle to execute THEIR strategy and would happily throw him and his baggage under the bus if it furthered their plans in regards to court appointments and tax cuts. There IS a thoughtful right, the trick is to figure out what they're thinking.  Does ANYBODY believe the Koch's are not thoughtful?

 

[Bent Sailor]

I thought Beck quit, took his social justice blackboard and went pretty much just on-line.  Is he back?

Nah, he's still online only. However, as PA amply proves, even the most braind dead of right-wingers can handle the Internet these days. If Trump & Pence both get impeached, he'll be jumping on outrage bandwagon & making up conspiracies as to how Pelosi framed Trump faster than you can say "Mormon hypocrite". 

 

[Left Shift]

I disagree, I think there were those on the right that saw Trump as a vehicle to execute THEIR strategy and would happily throw him and his baggage under the bus if it furthered their plans in regards to court appointments and tax cuts. There IS a thoughtful right, the trick is to figure out what they're thinking.  Does ANYBODY believe the Koch's are not thoughtful?

Probably quite thoughtful, except on the subject of social security.  Their daddy burned hatred of social security into their DNA.  Well, at least the two power-broker brothers.  The others are quite different creatures.

 

[learningJ24]

Like Trump, Grand-daddy made the money, the rest are just leveraging.

 

[Mrleft8]

Not mine - I'm up on a ridge in the Shenandoah valley.  How 'bout you explain what you find wrong with my observations and thoughts about likely reactions? 

Pence was seen talking to Flynn, and admitted that he knew of Flynn's transgressions before the inauguration, but he said nothing....

 

[Fakenews]

Two years until the next election..two years for the Republicans to ditch Trump and Pence and win their old traditional republican base back.

I wouldn't be so confident of a Dem win in 2020. They've shown little solidarity in cleaning their own house out in the last two years. Pelosi may be their best card...she's got Two years to be a voice of reason and unification in a profile that everyone sees nationwide.

I’m fairly certain your grasp of the American body politic is flimsy.  I have no idea what you mean by “solidarity in cleaning their own house out “ given that the DemocRAT party added 40 new Congress critters introducing an unprecedentedly diverse freshman class with a huge amount of them being women.

please stick to commenting on things you know something about whatever that may be.

 

[Steam Flyer]

Seriously? Because to the Republicans willing to take to the streets, gun in hand, the hatred that's been stoked against Hillary can easily be turned against Pelosi. The issue wasn't the imagined crimes the right-wing shock jocks (& GOP) tried to pin on her - they were always the excuse. Seeing a pantsuit-wearing, politically powerful Democratic woman beat their "strongman" GOP alternative is exactly the image they've been coaxed into a spittle-flecked rage over for years. Remember, these are people that would (& probably still do) buy Glenn Beck's conspiracies.

Reason & rationality isn't going to have any part of said rebellion. The "faithful" don't need an excuse, Jones, Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck will fill in the blanks for them, they just need to get angry.

Umm, Glenn Beck retired from the hate-spew business years ago.

-DSK

 

[Bent Sailor]

Umm, Glenn Beck retired from the hate-spew business years ago.

No, he was "retired" from Fox News years. He still spews hate, just from a less prolific platform. He's got a show on the Blaze Network still.

 

[Steam Flyer]

Umm, Glenn Beck retired from the hate-spew business years ago.

No, he was "retired" from Fox News years. He still spews hate, just from a less prolific platform. He's got a show on the Blaze Network still.

I haven't paid much attention to him, but what I've seen is pretty mild, certainly anti-Trump, and he has recant/apologized many times for damaging America with his former hate-spewing ways. Not that I'm proposing him for sainthood

-DSK

 

[Mark K]

No, he was "retired" from Fox News years. He still spews hate, just from a less prolific platform. He's got a show on the Blaze Network still.

He owns Blaze. Or did when he started it anyway. I haven't kept close tabs either.  

 

[Bent Sailor]

He owns Blaze. Or did when he started it anyway. I haven't kept close tabs either.  

I believe Beck's company merged with another one at some point, but they're still broadcasting. Not as off-the-wall batshit crazy as he was during the early Obama / Tea Party years, but still not giving any love to progressives. Like most of the GOP support framework, he's indeed not a fan of Trump... but he's going to take him over any Democrat. Impeach the GOP politicians ahead of Pelosi and he'll be linking her to the pizza parlour child abuse in under 24hrs.

 

[A guy in the Chesapeake]

Why? Seriously?

I really don't folllow Mrs. Pelosi all that much. I get the hate machine is being turned on her now that Hillary is not running for anything, but what fictional or non-fictional horrible crime does all the Right think she did?

I know the shtick with Hillary was she was a socialist who hated the country and would destroy the economy and democracy in general as soon as she was sworn in. What is Nancy's deal? Mandatory castration? Have to watch goat porn? What?

I think you misunderstood my intent:  It's not hate for Mme Pelosi - but a recognition of distrust of the Democrats in general among many of the hard-core right. If the Pres and VP are disposed w/the result being that the D Speaker became President?  I don't think that that would sit well with most on the right, and I could see the result of that distrust and what would be perceived as a political coup turning into a violent response. 

 

[Steam Flyer]

I think you misunderstood my intent:  It's not hate for Mme Pelosi - but a recognition of distrust of the Democrats in general among many of the hard-core right. If the Pres and VP are disposed w/the result being that the D Speaker became President?  I don't think that that would sit well with most on the right, and I could see the result of that distrust and what would be perceived as a political coup turning into a violent response. 

I think you misunderstand.

The "distrust" you speak of might as well be called what it is..... irrational hatred stoked by constant harping of right-wing media. What did Hillary do that was so bad, other than be a prominent woman Democrat and get investigated for years? What has Pelosi done? I'm interested in hearing it.

The existence of this huge skew is very apparent, and the right is always trying to build a false equivalence that there's an equal hate-spew from the far left. Wrong on two counts, there really isn't much of a far left in the US, and they don't own any mega-million media companies.

The hatred of Clinton and Pelosi (and any powerful Democrat) is just as substantive as if Pepsi drinkers hate-hate-HATED Coke drinkers, from believing their advertising.

-DSK