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Mike G

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You're right - I did miss that, I thought you were inquiring as to why I thought there would be angst, and IMHO, that's got nuttin' to do w/the fact that the Speaker is Mme Pelosi.    To your question?   Aside from the fact that she has different legislative priorities than I do, and that I think that she suffers from the same ailment that many/most of our legislators do, in that they don't feel the need to completely understand what they're proposing/voting on before they do, I don't think I could come up with a list of bad "things" that would be specific to Mme Pelosi.   Anger/disagreement w/much of the D agenda?  Yeah, I think that there'd be plenty of that.   

Look at the response we've seen from the left since Trump was elected - and he WAS elected.  Can you imagine that the response from the right would be muted should it come to pass that Mme Pelosi is deposited into the WH without being elected?    As to the violence?  I don't see it as an armed revolt marching up the steps in DC as much as I see it as smaller groups who feel disenfranchised responding with violent protest.   The Watts riots weren't an armed insurrection - but, they certainly were a violent protest, weren't they? 
So can I ask you a few things Chesapeake?

Do you think that a foreign government TRIED to influence our election in favor of Trump?

Do you think they were ABLE to influence our election, in any way, in favor of Trump?

I've got to be honest, I don't care for the guy.  I think his lying and immorality and lack of knowledge are disgusting.

And I don't feel he's got the best interests of all/most Americans in mind.

I DO feel that Russia was able to influence the election in favor of Trump.  Enough to get him elected, possibly.

And I really have a hard time with other people not seeing/believing the evidence that the lies/omissions attempt to cover up.

 

A guy in the Chesapeake

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So can I ask you a few things Chesapeake?

Do you think that a foreign government TRIED to influence our election in favor of Trump?

Do you think they were ABLE to influence our election, in any way, in favor of Trump?

I've got to be honest, I don't care for the guy.  I think his lying and immorality and lack of knowledge are disgusting.

And I don't feel he's got the best interests of all/most Americans in mind.

I DO feel that Russia was able to influence the election in favor of Trump.  Enough to get him elected, possibly.

And I really have a hard time with other people not seeing/believing the evidence that the lies/omissions attempt to cover up.
Ask anything ya want - I'll do my best. 

I think that it's beyond question that the Russians tried to influence the last election.  Tom Ray shared an article in a different thread that opined that the Russian effect was minimal in comparison to the impact of the rhetoric flying from both campaigns, and the media commentators.   I don't like him either - I think he epitomizes much of what I dislike and try hard every day to rise above in human nature. 

Lemme ask you something - do you think that my mention of the fact that Trump was elected was intended to be a statement of support for him? 

 

Bus Driver

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Ask anything ya want - I'll do my best. 

I think that it's beyond question that the Russians tried to influence the last election.  Tom Ray shared an article in a different thread that opined that the Russian effect was minimal in comparison to the impact of the rhetoric flying from both campaigns, and the media commentators.   I don't like him either - I think he epitomizes much of what I dislike and try hard every day to rise above in human nature. 

Lemme ask you something - do you think that my mention of the fact that Trump was elected was intended to be a statement of support for him? 
Are you talking about President Trump or Tommy Dogballs?   :rolleyes:

 

Mike G

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Ask anything ya want - I'll do my best. 

I think that it's beyond question that the Russians tried to influence the last election.  Tom Ray shared an article in a different thread that opined that the Russian effect was minimal in comparison to the impact of the rhetoric flying from both campaigns, and the media commentators.   I don't like him either - I think he epitomizes much of what I dislike and try hard every day to rise above in human nature. 

Lemme ask you something - do you think that my mention of the fact that Trump was elected was intended to be a statement of support for him? 
Nah, probably not.

MY opinion is they DID have an influence, and possibly altered the outcome.

So it drives me nuts to see what he's doing, foreign and domestic.  Things that I feel hurt our country and our standing as a world leader.

I know bitching about that really does no good, but I think the investigation can't wrap up soon enough.

 

Mike G

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Ask anything ya want - I'll do my best. 

I think that it's beyond question that the Russians tried to influence the last election.  Tom Ray shared an article in a different thread that opined that the Russian effect was minimal in comparison to the impact of the rhetoric flying from both campaigns, and the media commentators.   I don't like him either - I think he epitomizes much of what I dislike and try hard every day to rise above in human nature. 

Lemme ask you something - do you think that my mention of the fact that Trump was elected was intended to be a statement of support for him? 
I didn't read the article...but how can it be accurate when the investigation into the interference hasnt been completed?

 

Mark K

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Let's unravel that a bit. Speaker Pelosi only becomes Pres if your boy Shitstain and his boy Mike get the boot for, you know, selling out the country to Putin and that this only happens over and above the objections of McConnell who when he was informed of the Russian election interference in September 2016 threatened to cast it as partisan politics. With that proviso, you're saying that should all that come to pass, we had better not install Speaker Pelosi as the Constitution requires because you'd expect fighting in the streets.

I'll admit that it's hard to separate what you think from what you want. To your point, yeah, these guys might whip out their dogballs.

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I don't buy the civil war stuff. Let's say Trump and Pence were impeached and Nancy was made POTUS. Certainly there would be some Teahadis out looking for some trouble...but only a very tiny minority of them will whipping out their dogballs and waving them at police.  

 A few nuts getting their dogballs shot off them does not a civil war make.    

 

Olsonist

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Agreed. My point was that warning about the dire circumstances (civil war) attending an unlikely event (McConnell even putting such a trial on the Senate calendar) struck me less as analysis as wishful thinking.

 
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Pertinacious Tom

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I disagree, I think there were those on the right that saw Trump as a vehicle to execute THEIR strategy and would happily throw him and his baggage under the bus if it furthered their plans in regards to court appointments and tax cuts. There IS a thoughtful right, the trick is to figure out what they're thinking.  Does ANYBODY believe the Koch's are not thoughtful?
Here's a pro tip on how to perform that trick: look at the pre$$ corporation they $pon$or.

 

Mike G

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There's  30+ tweets by Seth that are pretty interesting.

6/ QUOTE #3 (CBS): "The [probe] isn't compiling the story of one pivotal election, but of something larger, more complicated and—from a counterintelligence perspective—more nefarious. The final report may be so highly classified that a meaningful portion may not be made public."

10/ QUOTE #5: "'[This is] work the [Senate Intel] committee will do for the next decade. And it has helped even our intelligence community's understanding of Russia's capabilities and intent behind this.' This was not, he stressed, 'Let's go screw with the Americans in 2016.'"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard-burr-on-senate-intelligence-committees-russia-investigation-2-years-on/

 
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Olsonist

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Jeff+Guy will be along shortly to tell us that there was no Russian election interference except for Hillary who the Democrats shouldn’t have nominated so that we wouldn’t have gotten Shitstain. It’s really the Democrats fault. Belief me.

 

Bent Sailor

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I thought there was nothing to the allegation Russia meddled.  I know several folks here have said that.
Yeah, but they've moved on and doubled down on the "there'll be no conviction for collusion". They like that since collusion isn't a crime, regardless of the crimes that one commits & can be indicted/convicted for that constitute collusion, so they can word game their way around being wrong. Still, this thread is going to be a goldmine later. Whichever way it goes, the Dog/Sol quote dredging will be most amusing. 

 


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