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Olsonist

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WTF

"Two days after then-acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe formally put President Trump under criminal investigation in May 2017, bureau officials reached out to the author of the controversial "Steele dossier" for more information, even though they had fired him for misconduct six months earlier".

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/03/02/mccabe_of_fbi_re-engaged_with_fired_dossier_author_after_comey_firing.html
Actually Steele didn't 'work' for the FBI so they FBI didn't 'fire' him. If they did 'fire' him then he'd arguably have cause for a whistleblower lawsuit. Moreover as even your own cite says the FBI un-'fired' him.

WTF indeed.

 

Dog

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Dog - answer me this:

If Putin appears on every network tonight and swears on a stack of (Orthodox) bibles he rigged the whole election and presents proof, what do you think will change? The Ds will be as outraged as ever and the Rs will say "Thanks!" :rolleyes:
I think our working assumption should be that Putin (and likely others) will attempt to fuck with our elections. It is interesting that, while he was aware of it, president Obama chose not to address Russian meddling when Hillary's election was considered a foregone conclusion.

 
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Bent Sailor

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I think our working assumption should be that Putin (and likely others) will attempt to fuck with our elections. It is interesting that, while he was aware of it, president Obama chose not to address Russian meddling when Hillary's election was considered a foregone conclusion.
His administration did address it. They just didn’t announce it, having more respect for the rule of law and legal presumption of innocence than Trump.

 

Bus Driver

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I think our working assumption should be that Putin (and likely others) will attempt to fuck with our elections. It is interesting that, while he was aware of it, president Obama chose not to address Russian meddling when Hillary's election was considered a foregone conclusion.
His administration did address it. They just didn’t announce it, having more respect for the rule of law and legal presumption of innocence than Trump.
I wish Dog gave as much of a shit about how President Trump acts as he did/does with regard to how President Obama acted.

 

Gone Drinking

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His administration did address it. They just didn’t announce it, having more respect for the rule of law and legal presumption of innocence than Trump.
So if he addressed it (and how did he do that - oh right told them to stop doing that) how did it happen?  I am assuming that the FBI and the CIA knew about it, why didn't they do anything?

 

Bent Sailor

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So if he addressed it (and how did he do that - oh right told them to stop doing that) how did it happen?  I am assuming that the FBI and the CIA knew about it, why didn't they do anything?
What did they do about it?
Asked and answered. A publicly muted response, whilst still addressing the issue behind the scenes, is exactly what I'd expect from a man that respects the democratic will of the public. Had he made a great fanfare of the matter, I know you'd be complaining about that - Obama is a Democrat after all. :rolleyes:  

 

Gone Drinking

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Dog

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Asked and answered. A publicly muted response, whilst still addressing the issue behind the scenes, is exactly what I'd expect from a man that respects the democratic will of the public. Had he made a great fanfare of the matter, I know you'd be complaining about that - Obama is a Democrat after all. :rolleyes:  
Ha...Yeah, muted and ineffective

 

d'ranger

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He also laughed when asked about Russian interference and told Trump to stop whining before the election.  This while knowing what the Russians were trying to do.  So it wasn't a problem because everyone knew that Hillary was going to win.  Glad I didn't bet on that one. 
Bullshit

 

Bent Sailor

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Ha...Yeah, muted and ineffective
Ineffective, certainly. That's one of the hard decisions a president has to make. Of the two evils, he decided that the administration going public during the election would have been the worst. That said, I don't hold him completely blameless. He knew what the GOP were like and still over-estimated their patriotism by expecting them to act on the information he gave them at the time.w

 

Gone Drinking

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From an Opinion piece in USA Today:

Just think about that for a moment. A hostile foreign power was able to unilaterally install its choice for president to lead our country and our people. This has never happened before in our nation’s history. Yet it happened on Obama’s watch. And Obama, despite knowing of the Russian efforts, could not and did not stop it from happening, if you believe the narrative. This failure to protect our democracy is an astonishing dereliction of presidential duty, and a damning indictment of the quality and efficacy of Obama’s leadership. In fact, Russia’s success just might make Obama one of our greatest failures. One narrative creates the other. In their efforts to discredit the Trump presidency through the “stolen election” narrative, Trump’s enemies only serve to discredit Obama’s even more. Isn’t irony fascinating? 

And from the Times, NY that is:


Mrs. Clinton was off the campaign trail on Tuesday, preparing for her final debate with Mr. Trump on Wednesday, so it fell to Mr. Obama to rebut Mr. Trump’s assertions. The president did so with obvious relish.

There is no evidence, he said, that a presidential election has ever been rigged. He said there was little indication that it could be, given that elections are run by state and local authorities, with people from both parties supervising polling sites and ballot counting.

“The notion that somehow if Mr. Trump loses Florida, it is because of those people that you have to watch out for,” he said, his voice thick with sarcasm. “That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn’t really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you want out of a president.”



“If you start whining before the game’s even over,” Mr. Obama continued, “if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job, because there are times when things don’t go our way — or my way.”



 

d'ranger

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From an Opinion piece in USA Today:

Just think about that for a moment. A hostile foreign power was able to unilaterally install its choice for president to lead our country and our people. This has never happened before in our nation’s history. Yet it happened on Obama’s watch. And Obama, despite knowing of the Russian efforts, could not and did not stop it from happening, if you believe the narrative. This failure to protect our democracy is an astonishing dereliction of presidential duty, and a damning indictment of the quality and efficacy of Obama’s leadership. In fact, Russia’s success just might make Obama one of our greatest failures. One narrative creates the other. In their efforts to discredit the Trump presidency through the “stolen election” narrative, Trump’s enemies only serve to discredit Obama’s even more. Isn’t irony fascinating? 

And from the Times, NY that is:


Mrs. Clinton was off the campaign trail on Tuesday, preparing for her final debate with Mr. Trump on Wednesday, so it fell to Mr. Obama to rebut Mr. Trump’s assertions. The president did so with obvious relish.

There is no evidence, he said, that a presidential election has ever been rigged. He said there was little indication that it could be, given that elections are run by state and local authorities, with people from both parties supervising polling sites and ballot counting.

“The notion that somehow if Mr. Trump loses Florida, it is because of those people that you have to watch out for,” he said, his voice thick with sarcasm. “That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn’t really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you want out of a president.”



“If you start whining before the game’s even over,” Mr. Obama continued, “if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job, because there are times when things don’t go our way — or my way.”
Do you enjoy your rant? Because Obama was responding to Trump's constant assertions that if he lost it was because the election was rigged. Remember his claim that millions of illegals voted for Hillary?

And an op-ed is opinion, not fact. I can tell you didn't bother to read the link I provided.  One note further - Obama did not want to publicize the concerns over Russian interference since it was early, not all the facts were known (and may still not be) and he did not want to interfere with the election - especially in light of Trump's constant claims of corruption.  The irony that is lost on you is that it was Trump who was benefiting from the same - and he knew it. Of course Trump didn't plan on winning, didn't think he would and was just piling up bullshit to continue his "greatest infomercial of all time" to further his businesses.

Moron.

 

Mike G

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Ineffective, certainly. That's one of the hard decisions a president has to make. Of the two evils, he decided that the administration going public during the election would have been the worst. That said, I don't hold him completely blameless. He knew what the GOP were like and still over-estimated their patriotism by expecting them to act on the information he gave them at the time.w
We went from "chose not to address Russian meddling" to muted and ineffective.

Dog is Dishonest.  He's effective though, because he's got a bunch of people jumping through his dishonest hoops.

He enjoys that.

 




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