Drip Drip Drip

[Bent Sailor]

I doubt Dog and his elk can even GET it up much less keep it up.

Would explain their bitterness at the youth of the world and the lack of, er, rigor in their arguments.

 

[Bus Driver]

What do they have to hide?

 

[Dog]

“High crimes and misdemeanors” according to Old English Laww: misappropriating government funds, appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, not spending money allocated by Parliament, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, arresting a man to keep him from running for Parliament, losing a ship by neglecting to moor it, helping “suppress petitions to the King to call a Parliament,” granting warrants without cause, and bribery. 

Arguably, “Lock her Up” violates one of these, although the act was merely threatened. The inaugural and his hotel are opportunities for “misappropriation of government funds.” His hotel is also a grand opportunity for ongoing bribery.  T-Mobile can’t be the only company using this strategy. Were any successful?

And appointing unfit subordinates? A cast of characters and their crimes speak to this one, not to mention nepotism x 2.

Plenty of available charges. Just have to work the politics and imagery. 

Drip, drip, drip

Agreed, Democrats will come up with some pretext for impeachment. Their real challenge will be selling it.

 

[hermetic]

What do they have to hide?

“The White House’s argument defies the Constitutional separation of powers, decades of precedent before this Committee, and just plain common-sense,” Cummings wrote. “The White House security clearance system is broken, and it needs both congressional oversight and legislative reform.”

getting congress involved in the clearance process is the stupidest thing I've heard.   I thought that opm was incompetent, but these people are nuts

 

[Fakenews]

When the career intelligence staffers are ignored by a criminal president and his corrupt and comprimied spawn receive clearances on his order (which he lied about) congress clearly has a role in providing proper oversight and sunshine.

 

[Bus Driver]

When the career intelligence staffers are ignored by a criminal president and his corrupt and comprimied spawn receive clearances on his order (which he lied about) congress clearly has a role in providing proper oversight and sunshine.

It's right there, in the title of the committee -

House Committee on Oversight and Reform

If ever there were a President and Administration in need of oversight and reform....

 

[Grrr...]

We went from "chose not to address Russian meddling" to muted and ineffective.

Dog is Dishonest.  He's effective though, because he's got a bunch of people jumping through his dishonest hoops.

He enjoys that.

He does.  I particularly like his puzzlement regarding why you'd contact someone in an investigation - even if they were fired.  You know, to get sources' names, to verify information, etc.  Much like Trump's "the election is only rigged if I lost" mantra, dog pulls these gems up only when he is against the action politically.

Democrats = bad has NEVER been more true than it is with Dog and his constant lying.

 

[hermetic]

When the career intelligence staffers are ignored by a criminal president and his corrupt and comprimied spawn receive clearances on his order (which he lied about) congress clearly has a role in providing proper oversight and sunshine.

It's right there, in the title of the committee -

House Committee on Oversight and Reform

If ever there were a President and Administration in need of oversight and reform....

so you two are just fine with congress reviewing sf86 data and the determinations made on them?

 

[Bus Driver]

so you two are just fine with congress reviewing sf86 data and the determinations made on them?

Is it within their purview? 

Given the two separate statements about how President Trump ordered the Security Clearance(s) be given against the recommendation of those charged with doing such things, I'd say it is high time we find out how far reaching this rot is.

 

[hermetic]

so you two are just fine with congress reviewing sf86 data and the determinations made on them?

Is it within their purview? 

you said it was "right there, in the title of the committee - "  so you tell me where you think it's covered

 

[Bus Driver]

you said it was "right there, in the title of the committee - "  so you tell me where you think it's covered

The legislative jurisdiction of the Committee on Oversight and Reform includes the following areas, as set forth in House Rule X, clause 1:

Federal civil service, including intergovernmental personnel; and the status of officers and employees of the United States, including their compensation, classification, and retirement;
Municipal affairs of the District of Columbia in general (other than appropriations);
Federal paperwork reduction;
Government management and accounting measures generally;
Holidays and celebrations;
Overall economy, efficiency, and management of government operations and activities, including federal procurement;
National archives;
Population and demography generally, including the Census;
Postal service generally, including transportation of the mails;
Public information and records;
Relationship of the federal government to the states and municipalities generally; and
Reorganizations in the executive branch of the government.

 

[Bent Sailor]

You know there is a "paste as plain text" link that shows up after you copy formatted html in from elsewhere right? Damn that is hard to read.

The legislative jurisdiction of the Committee on Oversight and Reform includes the following areas, as set forth in House Rule X, clause 1:

Federal civil service, including intergovernmental personnel; and the status of officers and employees of the United States, including their compensation, classification, and retirement;
Municipal affairs of the District of Columbia in general (other than appropriations);
Federal paperwork reduction;
Government management and accounting measures generally;
Holidays and celebrations;
Overall economy, efficiency, and management of government operations and activities, including federal procurement;
National archives;
Population and demography generally, including the Census;
Postal service generally, including transportation of the mails;
Public information and records;
Relationship of the federal government to the states and municipalities generally; and
Reorganizations in the executive branch of the government.

 

[Ishmael]

You know there is a "paste as plain text" link that shows up after you copy formatted html in from elsewhere right? Damn that is hard to read.

Just highlight it.

 

[Steam Flyer]

you said it was "right there, in the title of the committee - "  so you tell me where you think it's covered

Would you be a little bit concerned that Jared was busy using his Top Secret clearance to find info to sell to Saudi Arabia? Or some other not-entirely-friendly country?

Jared and Ivanka are certainly spending their time doing something, and it certainly isn't doing a good job helping their Daddy run the gov't

-DSK

-DSK

 

[Navig8tor]

So nice to see The top secret international man of mystery Jared becoming an international dupe.

MBS has said publicly that Jared’s in his pocket,  sad that the King is getting a little tetchy with MBS and his overreaching of late.

Any good diplomat would be informed and know how to manoeuvre in these circles, suspect Jared like Daddy think they know better and of course they are so indebted to the Saudi’s it could get interesting.

 

[hermetic]

you said it was "right there, in the title of the committee - "  so you tell me where you think it's covered

Would you be a little bit concerned that Jared was busy using his Top Secret clearance to find info to sell to Saudi Arabia? Or some other not-entirely-friendly country?

yes - disclosing classified information is a crime, and if there is evidence that this occurred it should be investigated.  no matter who the individual is.

the investigation should be done by the fbi, not congress.  this is the procedure that is in place

congress has no business inserting itself into personnel clearance levels or the classification of documents

 

[hermetic]

you said it was "right there, in the title of the committee - "  so you tell me where you think it's covered

The legislative jurisdiction of the Committee on Oversight and Reform includes the following areas, as set forth in House Rule X, clause 1:

Federal civil service, including intergovernmental personnel; and the status of officers and employees of the United States, including their compensation, classification, and retirement;
Municipal affairs of the District of Columbia in general (other than appropriations);
Federal paperwork reduction;
Government management and accounting measures generally;
Holidays and celebrations;
Overall economy, efficiency, and management of government operations and activities, including federal procurement;
National archives;
Population and demography generally, including the Census;
Postal service generally, including transportation of the mails;
Public information and records;
Relationship of the federal government to the states and municipalities generally; and
Reorganizations in the executive branch of the government.

I suppose you're hanging your hope on the first line - classification.

nope

 

[Steam Flyer]

yes - disclosing classified information is a crime, and if there is evidence that this occurred it should be investigated.  no matter who the individual is.

the investigation should be done by the fbi, not congress.  this is the procedure that is in place

congress has no business inserting itself into personnel clearance levels or the classification of documents

Congress is supposed to oversee the operating of the other two branches of gov't, and remedy problems by legislation. Its what they do. It is the most closely connected to the voters of any part of the gov't

That aside, we've seen seen Congress waste a monumental amount of time and money on nonsense investigations. I am not in favor of more of the same. But they would be failing their duty if they did not look into a President who flouted national security so flagrantly; one of the ways they do that is to get info from the FBI or direct further investigation if warranted

-DSK

 

[hermetic]

yes - disclosing classified information is a crime, and if there is evidence that this occurred it should be investigated.  no matter who the individual is.

the investigation should be done by the fbi, not congress.  this is the procedure that is in place

congress has no business inserting itself into personnel clearance levels or the classification of documents

Congress is supposed to oversee the operating of the other two branches of gov't, and remedy problems by legislation. Its what they do. It is the most closely connected to the voters of any part of the gov't

That aside, we've seen seen Congress waste a monumental amount of time and money on nonsense investigations. I am not in favor of more of the same. But they would be failing their duty if they did not look into a President who flouted national security so flagrantly; one of the ways they do that is to get info from the FBI or direct further investigation if warranted

congress can not legislate it's way past the constitutional right afforded the president to be the final arbiter.  if a crime has been committed, let the fbi investigate it.

again, congress has no business inserting itself into personnel clearance levels or the classification of documents

 

[Steam Flyer]

congress can not legislate it's way past the constitutional right afforded the president to be the final arbiter.  if a crime has been committed, let the fbi investigate it.

again, congress has no business inserting itself into personnel clearance levels or the classification of documents

The President does not have the Constitutional right to give access to top secret or sensitive information to his son-in-law so that his son-in-law can sell it to the highest bidder.

It looks like that's what happened. Maybe it didn't but without an investigation, there is no answer. Investigation is part of oversight, which is Congress' duty.

-DSK