Drug Prohibition: Still Stupid

[Pertinacious Tom]

Tom you really need to see someone about this talking to yourself thing. But until then carry on. You have the floor...

Why did you downvote posts 186 and 187, among others, in this thread, and then lie about it? You know that your replies and downvotes can still be seen, right?

I have never looked at your drug war thread , little own bothered to down vote you. All this paranoia is making you....ah....paranoiad Tommy gun.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Hey dude stop bogarting the thread.

Two years after your initial downvoting spurt, another one?

You don't remember replying and downvoting repeatedly or you're lying. Since you're a grabber, I'm going with the usual guess that you're lying.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Two years after your initial downvoting spurt, another one?

You don't remember replying and downvoting repeatedly or you're lying. Since you're a grabber, I'm going with the usual guess that you're lying.

Real men don’t down vote
They take care of business!

 

[LB 15]

Two years after your initial downvoting spurt, another one?

You don't remember replying and downvoting repeatedly or you're lying. Since you're a grabber, I'm going with the usual guess that you're lying.

It appears that I did down vote you twice - 6 years ago. No doubt in response to you bitching about being down voted. That is how i roll. But Tommy gun since you have your knickers in a twist about two down votes over 6 years ago, may I suggest that losing your guns might be the least of your problems. Are all you 2A acolytes paranoid or is it just you minute men types? Perhaps you should give to the cosplay a break for a while.

Trolling back through years of posts to find a down vote doesn't just make you paranoid, it also makes you a stupid cunt.

You stupid cunt.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

It appears that I did down vote you twice - 6 years ago.

And dozens of other times over a period of years, and also replied to this thread a few times.

Denying you ever looked at it is peculiar behavior. We all know that the forum shows when you've posted in a thread, so when you look at this one, it shows that you posted, and has for years. Yet you still lie. Amazing.

 

[veni vidi vici]

And dozens of other times over a period of years, and also replied to this thread a few times.

Denying you ever looked at it is peculiar behavior. We all know that the forum shows when you've posted in a thread, so when you look at this one, it shows that you posted, and has for years. Yet you still lie. Amazing.

Real men don’t down vote
Real men don’t acknowledge a down vote
Don’t be a PA bitch

 

[Mid]

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[veni vidi vici]

And dozens of other times over a period of years, and also replied to this thread a few times.

Denying you ever looked at it is peculiar behavior. We all know that the forum shows when you've posted in a thread, so when you look at this one, it shows that you posted, and has for years. Yet you still lie. Amazing.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Don't Blame Migrants and 'Open Borders' for Fentanyl Entering the Country

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Despite the idea's sticking power in certain circles, it's inaccurate to say that undocumented immigrants crossing an open border are chiefly responsible for fentanyl arriving at the country's doors. In reality, U.S. citizens carrying the drug through legal ports of entry are primarily to blame.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has reported an upward trend in fentanyl seizures over the past few years. From 2,800 pounds seized in FY 2019, CBP seized 11,200 pounds of fentanyl in FY 2021 and 12,900 pounds in FY 2022 through the end of August.

Seizures conducted by two distinct bodies within CBP combine to yield those numbers. The first, the Office of Field Operations (OFO), enforces immigration and customs laws at ports of entry—points where someone may lawfully enter the United States. The second is U.S. Border Patrol, which intercepts undocumented individuals and illegally imported goods between those ports of entry.

The vast majority of fentanyl seized in recent years has been obtained by the OFO, not Border Patrol. The drug was mainly seized from smugglers at legal ports of entry, not illegal border crossings. OFO seizures amounted to 2,600 pounds in 2019 (93 percent of the total fentanyl seized by CBP), 4,000 pounds in 2020 (83 percent), 10,200 pounds in 2021 (91 percent), and 10,900 pounds so far in 2022 (84 percent). The Drug Enforcement Agency confirms the port trend, saying that "the most common method employed [by Mexican cartels] involves smuggling illicit drugs through U.S. [ports of entry] in passenger vehicles with concealed compartments or commingled with legitimate goods on tractor-trailers."

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We put cartels in the fentanyl business by cracking down on "pill mills" and we can put them out of the business too, but not by looking in the wrong places. By decriminalizing recreational use of drugs.

 

[Olsonist]

Oklahomans Will Vote On Recreational Marijuana Next Year

The state will hold a special election to legalize weed on March 7.

www.huffpost.com

Stitt, a Republican, has said he opposes the legalization proposal because the federal government still considers marijuana a dangerous, illegal substance.

That's almost Tom-like logic.

 

[LB 15]

And dozens of other times over a period of years, and also replied to this thread a few times.

Denying you ever looked at it is peculiar behavior. We all know that the forum shows when you've posted in a thread, so when you look at this one, it shows that you posted, and has for years. Yet you still lie. Amazing.

I didn't realise that we still could downvote with the new forum ware so here is one for old times sake cupcake. Imagine getting so butthurt by a downvote. You see Tommy gun this is why people with cronic short mans syndrome and raging paranoia like you should not be allowed to own guns. Without them you have nothing.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Will Soon Open Alongside Florida Circle K Stores

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This week, Green Thumb Industries, a Chicago-based manufacturer of packaged cannabis products, announced a joint agreement with Circle K convenience stores. By the end of the year, Green Thumb will build a 28-acre cultivation facility in Ocala, Florida. Then, starting in 2023, it will lease space in some Circle K stores to build its "RISE Express" dispensaries.

A Circle K spokesman clarified to CBS News that the dispensaries will be distinct from its convenience stores: "To be clear, Circle K is not selling cannabis in its U.S. stores." The dispensaries will operate out of separate storefronts with separate entrances.

The rollout is modest: Out of more than 600 Circle K stores in Florida, only 10 will see dispensaries. Green Thumb referred to it as the "test and learn phase of the rollout," implying that more locations could be forthcoming if the first 10 prove successful. In the meantime, relatively few of Florida's more than 750,000 medical marijuana cardholders will have access.

But despite the small initial numbers, the announcement is a promising one: While making it easier to purchase marijuana will be good for the patients who need it, greater access is a good step overall in ending the drug war. The more people are able to purchase marijuana from a credible source like a retail establishment, rather than illegally on the black market, the fewer people risk being sent to jail or consuming a contaminated product.

While Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has not taken a firm stance for or against legalization, he told reporters that "it smells so putrid… I don't want to see that here. I want people to be able to breathe freely."
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It is unclear exactly where DeSantis visited and found the smell of marijuana so overwhelming. Recreational marijuana is legal in 18 states as well as D.C. and Guam, per U.S. News and World Report.

Many places where marijuana ends up legal, DeSantis said, ended up “regretting it.”

“I could not believe the pungent odor that you would see in some of these places,” the Republican Governor added. “I don’t want to see that here. I want people to be able to breathe freely.”
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It would be nice if they could just sell it in the Circle K stores but we're still a nation that elects drug warriors so this is the best we'll get for now.

DeSantis is obviously completely out of good arguments and realizes his Team's stupid prohibition program just isn't as popular as it was when a young Joe Biden was writing our drug war looting and mandatory sentencing laws.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

I didn't realise that we still could downvote with the new forum ware so here is one for old times sake cupcake. Imagine getting so butthurt by a downvote. You see Tommy gun this is why people with cronic short mans syndrome and raging paranoia like you should not be allowed to own guns. Without them you have nothing.

Still denying the repeated replies to this thread over a period of years, huh? No matter, in this place, no one will question your lies even when proof is right in this thread. Anything is justified when it's a grabber going after a nutter.

But, when considering the stupid Reagan/Biden drug war, as with every other issue, it is important to recognize that I sometimes say bad things about TeamD gun bans and confiscation programs, so thanks for sounding your one note yet again.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Will Soon Open Alongside Florida Circle K Stores



It would be nice if they could just sell it in the Circle K stores but we're still a nation that elects drug warriors so this is the best we'll get for now.

DeSantis is obviously completely out of good arguments and realizes his Team's stupid prohibition program just isn't as popular as it was when a young Joe Biden was writing our drug war looting and mandatory sentencing laws.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Lol… won’t take long before store owners repackage blackmarket pot into tax stamped weed packs and pocket the difference.
SYLD

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Lol… won’t take long before store owners repackage blackmarket pot into tax stamped weed packs and pocket the difference.
SYLD

That's what happens in states with weak enforcement of its laws like Florida. Is it legal to grow weed there?

 

[hobie1616]

Is it legal to grow weed there?

Iy should be fun watching the gators getting into the wonder weed.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

That's what happens in states with weak enforcement of its laws like Florida. Is it legal to grow weed there?

Actually, we have regrettably stringent enforcement of the stupid drug war here in FL, and no, it would not be legal for me to just grow a few plants in my yard. The article I posted mentions a 28 acre cultivation facility in Ocala. So I guess they can get permission somehow, but I would not want to invest. Seems like something that drug war looters might target for forfeiture. I don't see what would stop them.

Biden's Marijuana Pardons Did Not Free a Single Federal Prisoner or Deliver the Expungement He Promised

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The moral logic of Biden's distinction between simple possession and other marijuana offenses is puzzling. He says marijuana use should not be treated as a crime. Yet he is willing to let individuals like Rubis languish in prison merely for helping people use marijuana, which today is recognized as a legitimate business in most states, 19 of which allow recreational as well as medical use.


That puzzle is compounded by the fact that Biden has acknowledged the injustice of long prison terms for growing or distributing marijuana in particular cases. Last April, he announced 75 commutations for federal drug offenders. The beneficiaries included eight people convicted of marijuana distribution offenses:

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"No one should be in jail because of marijuana," Biden said while running for president. "As president, I will decriminalize cannabis use and automatically expunge prior convictions." His mass pardon did not accomplish either of those things, which are beyond Biden's powers "as president."

Decriminalizing marijuana use would require new legislation. Unless and until Congress acts, simple possession will remain a federal crime punishable by a fine of $1,000 or more and up to a year in jail.

As for expungement, it is available to people convicted of simple possession under federal law if they were younger than 21 at the time of the offense.
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The article also gets into the sad story of Edwin Rubis, who has been locked up for two decades and will be for another decade. Another life ruined by the stupid drug war. One of thousands. People win awards for selling weed and Circle K is even allowing it near their stores but Rubis will be locked up until 2032.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Iy should be fun watching the gators getting into the wonder weed.

Nothing new. Micanopy Dopey was high quality weed in the 1980's.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

None of the above. Just checking your claim that downvoting is mindless.

The "mindless" part was a reference to going along and downvoting dozens of posts in a row.

Not sure if you're able to acknowledge that reality or if you buy into LB's lie that it was only a couple.

I agree that a single downvote isn't necessarily mindless and might be humorous, as yours seems intended to be. I think I've downvoted one post in my history here and it was something BJ Porter said that a bunch of us found it funny to downvote. I don't remember what he said nor in what thread.