JALhazmat
Super Anarchist
Oops
Not always right are you sunshine. @4
unless you think grant lied about appointing Origin sport to conduct the event selection process
Emirates Team New Zealand.
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unless you think grant lied about appointing Origin sport to conduct the event selection process
Liquid
NFLTG
Don't get out much, eh?
There are 2,668 billionaires worldwide
As you point out though, none in NZ...
Hurry up and lose already!
https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.team_new_zealand_limited.5faa6251c6746df1d6307e6fa8682d3c.html
Not hard to find information about it... 4everwrong probably thinks it's fake news, but its certainly been in the public domain since 1993- pretty hard to argue against that. And more to the point, Grant isn't the only decision maker.
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dogwatch
Super Anarchist
Definitive current information would, I believe, be held by NZ Companies House, to which periodic filing must be made. This information has been on SAAC before. Talk of Dalton being "fired" are likely nonsense, he is a Director and a shareholder.
https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/582931
Directors:
Full legal name:Grant Stanley DALTON
Residential Address:14 Crescent Road, Parnell, Auckland, 1052 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:18 Mar 2019
Shareholder:Yes
Consent:View Consent Form
Full legal name:Robert Leslie FIELD
Residential Address:532 Lees Road, Rd 5, Feilding, 4775 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:01 Oct 2014
Consent:View Consent Form
Full legal name:Gregory Bernard HORTON
Residential Address:712 Remuera Road, Remuera, Auckland, 1050 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:31 May 2021
Consent:View Consent Form
Full legal name:Kevin Basil SHOEBRIDGE
Residential Address:3 Selby Square, Saint Marys Bay, Auckland, 1011 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:18 Mar 2019
Consent:View Consent Form
Shareholders are Dalton and Horton.
Allocation 1:790 shares (100.00%)
Grant Stanley DALTON
14 Crescent Road, Parnell, Auckland, 1052 , New Zealand
Director: Yes
Gregory Bernard HORTON
712 Remuera Road, Remuera, Auckland, 1050 , New Zealand
https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/582931
Directors:
Full legal name:Grant Stanley DALTON
Residential Address:14 Crescent Road, Parnell, Auckland, 1052 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:18 Mar 2019
Shareholder:Yes
Consent:View Consent Form
Full legal name:Robert Leslie FIELD
Residential Address:532 Lees Road, Rd 5, Feilding, 4775 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:01 Oct 2014
Consent:View Consent Form
Full legal name:Gregory Bernard HORTON
Residential Address:712 Remuera Road, Remuera, Auckland, 1050 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:31 May 2021
Consent:View Consent Form
Full legal name:Kevin Basil SHOEBRIDGE
Residential Address:3 Selby Square, Saint Marys Bay, Auckland, 1011 , New Zealand
Appointment Date:18 Mar 2019
Consent:View Consent Form
Shareholders are Dalton and Horton.
Allocation 1:790 shares (100.00%)
Grant Stanley DALTON
14 Crescent Road, Parnell, Auckland, 1052 , New Zealand
Director: Yes
Gregory Bernard HORTON
712 Remuera Road, Remuera, Auckland, 1050 , New Zealand
Forourselves
Super Anarchist
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So... You're telling me you already knew this (that TNZL is comprised of share holders).. Yet you are insisting that Grant alone makes every decision? :wacko: That's not how shit works.
Forourselves
Super Anarchist
Yes, but he's also the CEO, so yes, he makes the decisions. Does he answer to shareholders for those decisions? Absolutely. But they don't make the decisions, he does.
His job as CEO is literally to make those decisions. Thats what he gets paid to do. Thats why companies have CEO's.
Thats how shit works.
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shebeen
Super Anarchist
So that explains why you've been posting from a mini van parked outside 14 crescent road in Parnell since then?
Has Dalts given you the wifi password yet?
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
That ultimately depends on how many of the 490 shares in TNZL Dalton owns, which we don't know. UK limited company listings make that information publicly available but NZ Companies House does not, or if it does, I've failed to find it. The only other shareholder is Gregory Horton, of whom not so much is heard. Not a well man, apparently https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/team-new-zealand-director-greg-hortons-battle-with-motor-neuron-disease/VUHBQE4COPTWL7SYNKPEDQ5LVU/
I can tell you that being a minority shareholder of a small company generally does not of itself give you much influence. That has been a deal-breaker in my life when I was in discussions on forming a company with someone else.
Forourselves
Super Anarchist
Nah not yet, but when he's done taking you up the back door, like the groupie you are, how about you bring it out the front door. and leave it at the gate, and remember to wipe your chin before you take the old walk of shame lol
JALhazmat
Super Anarchist
I’m sure you are really close and trusted friend of his but outing him in public like this is absolutely terrible behaviour
Forourselves
Super Anarchist
I know, I should've known better, I'm sorry. I apologize for outing you shebeen. I hope we can continue being trusted friends. But seriously, can ya grab me the Wifi password when you're done?
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Sea Breeze 74
Anarchist
You are right and I think the NYYC would most likely hold it on home waters but my reaction to Singers' comments went back to him calling NZ taking it offshore "Distasteful". My point is that a US defense set the precedent.
While the Great Sound in Bermuda was a good venue for the AC50's I do agree that taking it there was distasteful in that instance too. But it was not done for some big mega-deal motivation the likes of the Barcelona choice, which makes this one all the more 'distasteful' even if it does, yes like GD argues, put the event on a much grander stage. Oh well.. may as well go with it and live by a good motto: Enjoy the Ride.
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Sea Breeze 74
Anarchist
Don't get me wrong, I think it's unfortunate that NZ won't defend in Auckland again but I accept that it is necessary for a realistic defence. Larry on the other hand wasn't strapped for cash.
We can't forget that Larry and Russell whored the cup to a variety of venues while playing them off against each other in a pretty shitty way. San Diego was genuinely shocked to not be selected but couldn't offer nearly the same sort of financial package as BDA. I'm uncomfortable with the move to Barcelona (regardless of what a fantastic place it is!) but this precedent has been set by a US defence and we can't look surprised now it's happening again
You are blaming the move out of Auckland on Larry and Russell? Lol!
Yes, San Diego did express marginal interest. Bermuda too, all they really bid for was an ACWS event and were shocked when they got chosen for the Cup itself, based probably on the Great Sound if they could just set up that dockyard by the cruise ship terminal, which they happily did.
Again, Barcelona will be big-time and there are some good things about all that since money is the goal this time. Would prefer a 'smaller, more boutique' venue, even Malaga could have been cool, but BCN could be better than even SF in some tourism ways. The number of annual visitors and existing hotel rooms at all budget levels and the flight connections are already amazing. Easy ferries and trains to and from BCN to other cool places too. Book it!
I have posted about a low-key apt already booked; yesterday I also did the same on another, roomier one because more friends are curious about the fun and scenery to be seen.
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Forourselves
Super Anarchist
JALhazmat
Super Anarchist
Looks right up your street eh 4
enigmatically2
Super Anarchist
Looks like they want people who can sail, so that's 4whoonlywentoutonafriendsboatonce out
