Emirates Team New Zealand.

[marlowe]

Nah, he changed it recently to a very traditional Kiwi name: Sheepshaggersconi.

Plenty of Sheepshaggersconi's in Italy - especially Sardinia!

 

[Blitzkrieg9]

"How is that for bold, innovative, and thinking outside the box?"

Up is down. Left is right. Front is back. History is 4 days old and we're already rewriting it. What a joke. 

ETNZ shitting on the DoG is somehow bold and innovative. Go fuck yourself, ETNZ

 

[Jethrow]

Can you explain your thinking Throw, you've lost me.

I was just commenting on the post above mine where they wanted to know the top speed and who got it.

The top speeds I remember, without going over all the techo readout repeats, all happened at the top mark bear-away or coming up at the bottom mark.

The speeds achieved while sailing an upwind or downwind leg didn't represent the fastest overall speeds achieved during the race and the actual top speed achieved bearing away at the top mark had very little relevance to the race.

 

[The Advocate]

I was just commenting on the post above mine where they wanted to know the top speed and who got it.

The top speeds I remember, without going over all the techo readout repeats, all happened at the top mark bear-away or coming up at the bottom mark.

The speeds achieved while sailing an upwind or downwind leg didn't represent the fastest overall speeds achieved during the race and the actual top speed achieved bearing away at the top mark had very little relevance to the race.

Coy that.

 

[Monkey]

I’ll just say that we’ve got a petition floating around work to end our sponsorship. It’s overwhelmingly popular. I may be involved in that.  Sorry Grant, Americans won’t pay for you if you exclude us. 

 

[marlowe]

So hypothetically ETNZ (once again hard up) agrees to an AC match with INEOS around the Is of W and loses.

What's the difference in Grant allowing Ratty to buy the Cup in this way and Coutts, Butterworth, et al taking Ernie's cash and bringing him the Cup?

At least in 2003 Kiwis got to lose it in home waters. Would the compensation of being amongst the challengers in Auckland at the next AC be enough?

 

[trig42]

'One Hears' it's $100million to ETNZ.

A match in the Solent/IoW.

ETNZ Win, AC38 in Auckland with ITUK as CoR.

ITUK Win, AC38 in the UK, ETNZ as CoR.

ETNZ just have to sell it to the public and the gummint. Good luck with that.

 

[jaysper]

What's the difference in Grant allowing Ratty to buy the Cup in this way and Coutts, Butterworth, et al taking Ernie's cash and bringing him the Cup?

Better, but still a bit shit.

The real cuntery afoot is around trying to enfore the use of AC75s for AC38 also.

 

[marlowe]

Better, but still a bit shit.

The real cuntery afoot is around trying to enfore the use of AC75s for AC38 also.

Yes, in as much as it's against the DoG and seeks to tie the hands of the next defender. But, as has been pointed out, I'm not sure they could make it binding.

However all current teams appear happy with the AC75 and agree there needs to be stability with the class. I know you're not keen on the AC75 but I do think stability of the class is a good thing.

 

[jaysper]

Yes, in as much as it's against the DoG and seeks to tie the hands of the next defender. But, as has been pointed out, I'm not sure they could make it binding.

However all current teams appear happy with the AC75 and agree there needs to be stability with the class. I know you're not keen on the AC75 but I do think stability of the class is a good thing.

So despite disliking the AC75s I agree that class stability is a good thing.

However, I still take massive umbrage at the attempt to do this.

Its not getting away with it that makes you a cunt, its the very attempt to do so.

If you'd like proof of this, go with your wife/husband to some place, single out the hottest chick/dude there and go try to get him to take you home for some sweet loving.

I doubt that you getting rejected will put you in any less of a sticky situation.

 

[Sailbydate]

I know, I know - was there for AC33  <_<

But prior to that, wasn’t there a fuss over the Australia II tank tests in Holland and related intellectual property?

Yes. There was lots of fuss from the yanks, but the Aussies prevailed. Which is just as well, because otherwise NZL would never have imagined such a thing as winning the AC remotely possible. Thanks Aussie.

 

[marlowe]

So despite disliking the AC75s I agree that class stability is a good thing.

However, I still take massive umbrage at the attempt to do this.

Its not getting away with it that makes you a cunt, its the very attempt to do so.

If you'd like proof of this, go with your wife/husband to some place, single out the hottest chick/dude there and go try to get him to take you home for some sweet loving.

I doubt that you getting rejected will put you in any less of a sticky situation.

Fair enough. Might come down to whether anyone objects enough to want to put up a legal fight.

It would be ironic if EB were the one to take a dodgy protocol to the NYSC and end up in a DoG with ETNZ!

 

[jaysper]

Fair enough. Might come down to whether anyone objects enough to want to put up a legal fight.

It would be ironic if EB were the one to take a dodgy protocol to the NYSC and end up in a DoG with ETNZ!

Oh that would be beautiful except that Ernie would behave the same.

 

[marlowe]

Oh that would be beautiful except that Ernie would behave the same.

It would be a DoG eat DoG match.

 

[Sailbydate]

So hypothetically ETNZ (once again hard up) agrees to an AC match with INEOS around the Is of W and loses.

What's the difference in Grant allowing Ratty to buy the Cup in this way and Coutts, Butterworth, et al taking Ernie's cash and bringing him the Cup?

At least in 2003 Kiwis got to lose it in home waters. Would the compensation of being amongst the challengers in Auckland at the next AC be enough?

Nope.

'One Hears' it's $100million to ETNZ.

That's a lot of chump change. Seems like 30 pieces of silver will no longer cut it.

 

[Xlot]

Yes. There was lots of fuss from the yanks, but the Aussies prevailed. Which is just as well, because otherwise NZL would never have imagined such a thing as winning the AC remotely possible. Thanks Aussie.

I also remembered that Azzurra had to have nominally Italian designers. So definitely in 1983 there was a nationality requirement for designers too

 

[Sailbydate]

Plenty of Sheepshaggersconi's in Italy - especially Sardinia!

Really. Ewe've definitely piqued my interest in the place. ;-)

 

[Sailbydate]

I also remembered that Azzurra had to have nominally Italian designers. So definitely in 1983 there was a nationality requirement for designers too

Interesting. Thanks, Xlot.

 

[strider470]

I also remembered that Azzurra had to have nominally Italian designers. So definitely in 1983 there was a nationality requirement for designers too

Vallicelli?

 

[The Advocate]

Yes. There was lots of fuss from the yanks, but the Aussies prevailed. Which is just as well, because otherwise NZL would never have imagined such a thing as winning the AC remotely possible. Thanks Aussie.

I also remembered that Azzurra had to have nominally Italian designers. So definitely in 1983 there was a nationality requirement for designers too

Indeed.

Seems to be some real "picking" about what "origins" want to be returned to.