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NeedAClew

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Uh, we know NZ exists. Question is, will it be opened up by the time of the next Cup? Australia doesn't look to be in any hurry. If it's not opened up, some of the advertised allure may fade in memory. 

 

Forourselves

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Uh, we know NZ exists. Question is, will it be opened up by the time of the next Cup? Australia doesn't look to be in any hurry. If it's not opened up, some of the advertised allure may fade in memory. 
Its not overseas travellers they’re looking to attract, we’ll not yet anyway, it’s business, it’s trade, it’s the clean green NZ image that accompanies NZ exports overseas that the Government sees return on investment in. Kiwifruit, NZ lamb, NZ Dairy, even Timber, all large market exports for NZ into places like China, the EU and the US. Even the Movie industry has bought into NZ as a filming location. They buy NZ products simply because they’re guaranteed quality because of the NZ brand, the Image, the clean green NZ image projected around the world by events like the America’s Cup. The more eyes on the NZ brand, the more business it generates, the higher the return on investment. 
Once the borders open, the tourism industry will also capitalise on the exposure the AC provides for NZ as a tourist destination.

 
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Tornado-Cat

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We don't know what happens behind the supposed "negotiations" but what if GD already knows the venue without telling Ratcliffe ? he could begin to adapt their boat to the venue in advance.

Conspiracy theories ?.......It's the AC.

 

Fiji Bitter

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Conspiracy theories ?.......It's the Asocial-Cat.
As usual Asocial-Cat got it completely wrong!

The deal between Sir Grant and Sir James was done long ago in Monaco, where they are close neighbors.

The whole venue game is a developer's veil to buy up as much as they can around the Beaulieu River, so that they can watch the next DOG-Match from their lawns, together with their B$ friends.

Ratty already owns a nice property along the river.

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That, and several thousand of acres nearby at Fawley.

And Grunter is known to be swapping his Lymington mansion for the picturesque Gins Farm, right next to the posh Southampton Yacht Club.

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Plenty of room to accommodate all 12 teams along this "beau lieu", and the racing will be just outside the entrance, off the Royal Yacht Squadron Cows' Green.

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And you know, pictures or it isn't true.

P.S. All information herein is confidential and not entirely the authors responsibility and fiction.

 

porthos

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We don't know what happens behind the supposed "negotiations" but what if GD already knows the venue without telling Ratcliffe ? he could begin to adapt their boat to the venue in advance.

Conspiracy theories ?.......It's the AC.
Then Ratcliffe is stupid, and I don't think Ratcliffe is stupid. If RNZYS/TNZ is being coy or somehow not sharing information reasonably with RYS Ltd/INEOS, all Jim has to do is say "fuck it, let's have a DoG match" and RNZYS/TNZ are toast.  They've already showed their hand that they are financially strapped. 

 

Fiji Bitter

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What adding wheels to the foils allowing them to sail over the sandbanks...........don't Dick Carter do something like this 6o years ago. :rolleyes:
Kind of, Red Rooster and Noryema, I read it all here, in SA.

On 4/9/2011 at 8:36 PM, moody frog said:

Noryema VII (or VCX)

Was a wonderful cruising boat in the Med for two super joint-owners, secluded low depth anchorages ... if a bit "oily"

Now fully rebuilt in Sweden and gracing baltic waters.




Ballasted foils is just a more recent development of those very old concepts.

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Tornado-Cat

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Then Ratcliffe is stupid, and I don't think Ratcliffe is stupid. If RNZYS/TNZ is being coy or somehow not sharing information reasonably with RYS Ltd/INEOS, all Jim has to do is say "fuck it, let's have a DoG match" and RNZYS/TNZ are toast.  They've already showed their hand that they are financially strapped. 
Yes, Ratcliffe is smart, yes a DoG match is a possibility,  by I doubt it's his preference, we don't know what is discussed behind closed doors. They could also both know the venue while others possible challengers don't.

 

moody frog

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Kind of, Red Rooster and Noryema, I read it all here, in SA.

Ballasted foils is just a more recent development of those very old concepts.

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 Oh yes that's older than us  .......                                                                                                                                          14th century celtic boat (replica)

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Forourselves

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Yes, Ratcliffe is smart, yes a DoG match is a possibility,  by I doubt it's his preference, we don't know what is discussed behind closed doors. They could also both know the venue while others possible challengers don't.
They could, but thats the way the AC works. Its not fair. The Defender has an advantage. Its extremely hard to win, and thats why its such an achievement when you win. 

As Peter Blake said "The biggest thrill is to be able to say we did it, when a lot of people would've said you're never gonna do it, its just impossible. Bullshit, its not impossible at all. You can make any dream happen if you work at it enough"

 

Rhumline

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The best way forward for Team whatevertheycallthemselvesnowadays to remain a force in their own right is to align with a powerful brand that has some resonance with their support base, and which welcomes outsiders who are attracted to the 'underdog punches above its weight' tag.

Sounds a whole lot like NZ Inc doesn't it?  And all we want in return is a boat race held in our own back yard.  In return everyone gets  free rent and TWTCTN can demonstrate to the billionaires-in-waiting that they have a LOYAL following like the Man U's, Barcelona's and Werder Bremen's that people on this site have been trying to compare 'their' team to.

ETNZ is not and will never be on a par with sporting behemoths like these.

Oh that's right, it's all because the AC is in Auckland, 12 hours away from the sport's power base.  Who in the NH wants to watch a yacht race in the middle of the night?

Yeh Nah. 

The TV audience numbers mean little because (as erudite commentators on both sides of the fence keep saying) the event hardly registers on the world stage.  There's about 1,000 of you north of the equator interested in getting out of bed for the AC.

And half of you seem to be on SA.

Just sayin'  ;-) (apologies SBD)

 
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dg_sailingfan

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Aucklands International Tennis Tournaments cancelled for the 2nd year in a row per NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tennis-asb-classic-cancelled-for-second-straight-year/HFT33WQ7ABUGE5HZ37IGYW5BHY/

And yet they want to continue to hold the AC there. If they can't handle a bunch of International Tennis Players and their staff why should the City being allowed to host AC37.

Grant Dalton made the best move ever to put the AC37 Hosting up to the highest bidder.

Jacinda Ardern and her Clown Labor Government has to ease these Quarantine Restrictions at some Point for International Travellers if NZ ever wants to host a big International Sporting Event with Fans & Supporters coming from other Countries.

 

Gissie

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Aucklands International Tennis Tournaments cancelled for the 2nd year in a row per NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tennis-asb-classic-cancelled-for-second-straight-year/HFT33WQ7ABUGE5HZ37IGYW5BHY/

And yet they want to continue to hold the AC there. If they can't handle a bunch of International Tennis Players and their staff why should the City being allowed to host AC37.

Grant Dalton made the best move ever to put the AC37 Hosting up to the highest bidder.

Jacinda Ardern and her Clown Labor Government has to ease these Quarantine Restrictions at some Point for International Travellers if NZ ever wants to host a big International Sporting Event with Fans & Supporters coming from other Countries.
Maybe the tennis needed to learn from Dalts and demand 200 mill to run the event. Then you could bitch like a child about that instead.

 

SimonN

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Jacinda Ardern and her Clown Labor Government has to ease these Quarantine Restrictions at some Point for International Travellers if NZ ever wants to host a big International Sporting Event with Fans & Supporters coming from other Countries.
They will, but only when they have vaccinated enough of the population to make it safe to do so. 

Why do you think the NZ government are clowns. They controlled the virus and have had one of the best economic results in the world due to controlling the virus. The people of NZ clearly don't think the government are clowns and they handed them the biggest election win since 1951. A sure fire way to lose the next election would be to open the borders too soon, although I suspect the government would be more worried about the human cost of a major outbreak, followed by the economic devastation. 

 

Gissie

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They will, but only when they have vaccinated enough of the population to make it safe to do so. 

Why do you think the NZ government are clowns. They controlled the virus and have had one of the best economic results in the world due to controlling the virus. The people of NZ clearly don't think the government are clowns and they handed them the biggest election win since 1951. A sure fire way to lose the next election would be to open the borders too soon, although I suspect the government would be more worried about the human cost of a major outbreak, followed by the economic devastation. 
Interesting to see how the outside world perceives us. From inside the country I would disagree with much of this, especially the build up to the election. But this is not really the place for political discussions, they turn nasty here very quickly, so I will leave it alone.

 
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