Kate short for Bob
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Emirates Team New Zealand.
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JALhazmat
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No Emirates, no (E)TNZ
more simple?
more simple?
Forourselves
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Salty Seacock
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Reading through you soft cocks talking gentlemanly regarding ethics in sporting politics makes me sick with wonder.
GD will do whatever's required to keep the cup for his sponsors and the club he's racing for. His tactics are hard, his success undeniable. Trust in his mindset until he fucks it all up and then you can all spit on his failure.
My wonder is pity based. Pity on you fools still in here debating bullshit before the stock have eaten.
I only poke my nose in every now and then to read what sailbtdate has to say.
We won. We choose. Fuck everyone else.
GD will do whatever's required to keep the cup for his sponsors and the club he's racing for. His tactics are hard, his success undeniable. Trust in his mindset until he fucks it all up and then you can all spit on his failure.
My wonder is pity based. Pity on you fools still in here debating bullshit before the stock have eaten.
I only poke my nose in every now and then to read what sailbtdate has to say.
We won. We choose. Fuck everyone else.
Chobani Sailor
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maybe devos, penske and fauth just like to piss money down the toilet, otherwise they should have seen the deficiencies with TH and the COO (not sure where he came from) early in the program. Penske doesn't have the reputation of losing so maybe he was just a guy giving money and not playing an active roll. Either way if the NYYC is going again, they need more AC experience at the top calling the day to day shots.
JALhazmat
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First port of call for high value hires is this place…
Forourselves
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This is fantastic! They should just do this for every race! No need for commentators, just let the crews do the commentary!
dg_sailingfan
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Why are the Italians consistently playing the "Crybaby" Card especially Francesco Bruni. When ETNZ announced INEOS as CoR they said Venue within 6 months which is excatly Sept. 17!
New pods up from Shirley, this time with Mike Sanderson. I know he's not from ETNZ, but he's a Kiwi, so close enough......
https://shirleyrobertson.com/podcast/
https://shirleyrobertson.com/podcast/
dogwatch
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Fiji Bitter
I love Fiji Bitter
dullers
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Went down to Plymouth to watch the sail gp today. Weather perfect and even enough wind. We had a high and close vantage point over the finish. Well worth the watch if you are into sailing but if you dont have an idea of how it goes it would be confusing to watch.
chesirecat
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Local rag
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-royal-new-zealand-yacht-squadrons-desperate-attempts-to-keep-auld-mug-on-home-waters/CC7C5DFEQP2PNQXHGOAW6XGSS4/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3CtJxF94mNUax4uOscwAKVZEEv0WJytLBI9BnvZwYTQlLbVL28Jlo3BFM#Echobox=1626421790
A leaked email has revealed a last-ditch effort was made to try and raise the money required to host the next America's Cup in Auckland, despite an admittedly low chance of success.
Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron (RNZYS) commodore Aaron Young sent an email to the squadron's members this week that contained an update on efforts being made to keep the event on New Zealand shores.
Last month, Team New Zealand (TNZ) CEO Grant Dalton told a gathering of more than 400 squadron members that it was extremely unlikely that a funding agreement with the Government would be reached, after more than three months of negotiations had failed.
Now, after another month of attempts to raise at least $80m to add to a reported offer worth around $100 million from the Government and Auckland Council, Young says the campaign has failed to progress its cause.
"I have been working tirelessly for the last month with numerous people and meetings to look at every possible opportunity to raise the funds needed. We have had many worthwhile meetings, some positive outcomes and some no's. I can honestly say we have tried and continue to do so, but as of now we aren't there," Young wrote in the email.
He says, now, that negotiations are set to begin with offshore venues ahead of a deadline of September 17, 2021.
"Time isn't on our side... There is genuine interest internationally to support our team and host the AC37 event. As we stated at the update - the RNZYS needs our team to represent the RNZYS by conducting a successful defence and event so nothing has changed there. We continue to work closely with TNZ towards this common goal."
Team New Zealand was formed for the RNZYS's pursuit of the America's Cup in 1993 and so both parties are inextricably linked as far as the next event is concerned.
The RNZYS's final effort to keep the America's Cup in New Zealand now seems to be via fundraising directly from its members, even though the email denies such a thing.
"I have heard a few people say - 'surely we can raise the money'; 'it's only $1m from 100 members'; 'there must be a way; 'if everyone put in $1000 then we got a bit more from someone…' amongst other comments," the update begins, before an attempt to make readers feel less guilty follows at its conclusion.
"This isn't a request for funding from our members, but is to communicate where we are at. That being said, if you do have a genuine interest and desire to be one of those unique 100 members mentioned above, then yesterday was the time to call us!
"We don't want any of our members to look back and say we could have, would have or should have. Personally I know that I have tried very, very hard and if that isn't enough then so be it. All I ask is that you all do the same if you have the same desire."
If the money fails to be raised to support a local defence, then a string of foreign cities and countries are reported to be waiting in line to take Auckland's place.
The Irish Examiner reported in June that Cork, the Isle of Wight, China, Saudi Arabia, Valencia and Dubai have all been tipped as possible locations.
However, Dalton told the Herald in June that a final decision will most likely not be made until bang on the final deadline.
"The last time... honestly I think it was 45 minutes before we were about to sign, to agree to go somewhere else, the deal was done to stay here.
"This is not us taking the Cup away yet."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-royal-new-zealand-yacht-squadrons-desperate-attempts-to-keep-auld-mug-on-home-waters/CC7C5DFEQP2PNQXHGOAW6XGSS4/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3CtJxF94mNUax4uOscwAKVZEEv0WJytLBI9BnvZwYTQlLbVL28Jlo3BFM#Echobox=1626421790
A leaked email has revealed a last-ditch effort was made to try and raise the money required to host the next America's Cup in Auckland, despite an admittedly low chance of success.
Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron (RNZYS) commodore Aaron Young sent an email to the squadron's members this week that contained an update on efforts being made to keep the event on New Zealand shores.
Last month, Team New Zealand (TNZ) CEO Grant Dalton told a gathering of more than 400 squadron members that it was extremely unlikely that a funding agreement with the Government would be reached, after more than three months of negotiations had failed.
Now, after another month of attempts to raise at least $80m to add to a reported offer worth around $100 million from the Government and Auckland Council, Young says the campaign has failed to progress its cause.
"I have been working tirelessly for the last month with numerous people and meetings to look at every possible opportunity to raise the funds needed. We have had many worthwhile meetings, some positive outcomes and some no's. I can honestly say we have tried and continue to do so, but as of now we aren't there," Young wrote in the email.
He says, now, that negotiations are set to begin with offshore venues ahead of a deadline of September 17, 2021.
"Time isn't on our side... There is genuine interest internationally to support our team and host the AC37 event. As we stated at the update - the RNZYS needs our team to represent the RNZYS by conducting a successful defence and event so nothing has changed there. We continue to work closely with TNZ towards this common goal."
Team New Zealand was formed for the RNZYS's pursuit of the America's Cup in 1993 and so both parties are inextricably linked as far as the next event is concerned.
The RNZYS's final effort to keep the America's Cup in New Zealand now seems to be via fundraising directly from its members, even though the email denies such a thing.
"I have heard a few people say - 'surely we can raise the money'; 'it's only $1m from 100 members'; 'there must be a way; 'if everyone put in $1000 then we got a bit more from someone…' amongst other comments," the update begins, before an attempt to make readers feel less guilty follows at its conclusion.
"This isn't a request for funding from our members, but is to communicate where we are at. That being said, if you do have a genuine interest and desire to be one of those unique 100 members mentioned above, then yesterday was the time to call us!
"We don't want any of our members to look back and say we could have, would have or should have. Personally I know that I have tried very, very hard and if that isn't enough then so be it. All I ask is that you all do the same if you have the same desire."
If the money fails to be raised to support a local defence, then a string of foreign cities and countries are reported to be waiting in line to take Auckland's place.
The Irish Examiner reported in June that Cork, the Isle of Wight, China, Saudi Arabia, Valencia and Dubai have all been tipped as possible locations.
However, Dalton told the Herald in June that a final decision will most likely not be made until bang on the final deadline.
"The last time... honestly I think it was 45 minutes before we were about to sign, to agree to go somewhere else, the deal was done to stay here.
"This is not us taking the Cup away yet."
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Jethrow
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Hmmm, $100,000 "then a bit more from someone" for $1M. With maths like that it's no wonder they're having trouble raising the money! :lol:
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chesirecat
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And now this
New Zealand made a loss of $156 million from hosting the America's Cup event in March.
"It also details the organisation's frustrations in working with the public sector, with some processes described as "cumbersome and time consuming". ACE said it was required to attend 32 regular meetings, "most of which were unproductive and resulted in conflicting information and instructions being delivered to ACE". "Unfortunately, due to the number of people who attended and the fact that they were led by Auckland Unlimited who was not responsible for delivering the event, they became very unproductive, and required outcomes were not able to be achieved."
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/447287/america-s-cup-new-zealand-made-156m-loss-on-hosting-event?fbclid=IwAR1NCkyVF1uktwinI3HlAKKuzs93VNAc-oo8CDD2x2U32DUPbOsfSLevChw
[SIZE=15.9375px]And the review itself[/SIZE]
https://www.americascup.com/files/m5301_Americas-Cup-Event-Limited-Final-Event-Report_FA_2.pdf
New Zealand made a loss of $156 million from hosting the America's Cup event in March.
"It also details the organisation's frustrations in working with the public sector, with some processes described as "cumbersome and time consuming". ACE said it was required to attend 32 regular meetings, "most of which were unproductive and resulted in conflicting information and instructions being delivered to ACE". "Unfortunately, due to the number of people who attended and the fact that they were led by Auckland Unlimited who was not responsible for delivering the event, they became very unproductive, and required outcomes were not able to be achieved."
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/447287/america-s-cup-new-zealand-made-156m-loss-on-hosting-event?fbclid=IwAR1NCkyVF1uktwinI3HlAKKuzs93VNAc-oo8CDD2x2U32DUPbOsfSLevChw
[SIZE=15.9375px]And the review itself[/SIZE]
https://www.americascup.com/files/m5301_Americas-Cup-Event-Limited-Final-Event-Report_FA_2.pdf
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Forourselves
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Most businesses are running at a loss due to the closed borders.
Rennmaus
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If RNZYS pulls this off, it's a bit back to the roots, syndicate and all. But then RNZYS should have a close look at the salaries of the people that are funded. It must be rather frustrating giving your more or less hard earned bucks away for some chap to buy the next bach on Waiheke Island.
