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[Tacoma Mud Flats]

Buy the Sacajawea and start your own cruise line. Going for a song...

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[Kurtz]

Post covid, I can't imagine that anyone would actually go on a cruise. Maybe they will end up being used for low-income housing afterall.

In my head, this is how I thought (wanted) the cruise industry would end up post covid.

 

[huey 2]

The Coral Sea cruise boats have been dumping on some of the islands, in Vanuatu we saw a mega tip from all the "Cattletrucks"as we were want to call them. Townships downstream dealt with it daily.
They had also dumped oil engine room waste near dive site of WW2 wrecks
but the damage in the docking area from prop wash was extraordinary and the indiscriminate anchoring just callous....

 

[NaClH20]

Buy the Sacajawea and start your own cruise line. Going for a song...

SACAJAWEA Yacht for Sale in Oakland | 125' (38.1m) 1936 Lake Washington Shipyard | N&J

Click here to discover SACAJAWEA yacht for sale in Oakland. This 125' (38.1m) Motor Yachts boat by Lake Washington Shipyard is for sale with Northrop & Johnson.

www.northropandjohnson.com

Oh man, if I had lottery money that’d be my dream putter around retirement gig. Reminds me a bit of the Ted Geary motor yachts, Principia and Canim especially, which I’ve lusted after for decades. Those were rather more refined, though; the exposed riveted steel in the cabins is an interesting aesthetic, not necessarily bad. Still, would work a treat in New England. Would probably add stabilizers, though. To complete the fantasy would also need an original antique main engine to fiddle with.

 

[bgytr]

I wonder if they built the Magic pipe into that one?

The $40m 'magic pipe': Princess Cruises given record fine for dumping oil at sea​

Ferrer said the illegal practices came to light when an engineer aboard the Caribbean Princess discovered the “magic pipe” in 2013 off the coast of Britain and told investigators about it.

Authorities later learned the 952ft ship had been illegally discharging oily water into the ocean since 2005.

“Our open seas are not dumping grounds for waste,” Ferrer said. “One thing we must never do is take our clear blue oceans for granted.”

A single illegal discharge dumped 4,227 gallons of oil-contaminated waste about 20 miles off the coast of England on 26 August 2013, according to court documents.

The documents also show illegal practices were found on four other Princess ships, including use of clean ocean water to fool onboard sensors that would otherwise detect dumping of improperly contaminated bilge water. Authorities say cost savings was the motive and that the ship’s officers and crew conspired to cover up what was going on.

Sometimes regulations can be poorly conceived, leading to problems. Without disclosing identifying details, a ship project I was involved with re. discharge of oil waste at sea exemplified the idiot regulators that write the rules with their heads firmly and fully stuck up their asses.
The regulation was that the amount of oil in discharge was to be so many parts per million of the total discharge. So in order to meet the regulation, all you had to do was flush more sea water into the discharge to get the ppm down to the legal limit. So the obvious solution was to draw more sea water in to dilute the discharge per the requirements, then dump it overboard.
So the same amount of oil goes overboard, but it is per the requirements. What a bunch of shit4brains.
Needless to say, a certain young engineer who pointed this out got in trouble for doing so because the regulation had to be re-written by the higher ups at the time who fucked up in the first place.

 

[Lark]

Sometimes regulations can be poorly conceived, leading to problems. Without disclosing identifying details, a ship project I was involved with re. discharge of oil waste at sea exemplified the idiot regulators that write the rules with their heads firmly and fully stuck up their asses.
The regulation was that the amount of oil in discharge was to be so many parts per million of the total discharge. So in order to meet the regulation, all you had to do was flush more sea water into the discharge to get the ppm down to the legal limit. So the obvious solution was to draw more sea water in to dilute the discharge per the requirements, then dump it overboard.
So the same amount of oil goes overboard, but it is per the requirements. What a bunch of shit4brains.
Needless to say, a certain young engineer who pointed this out got in trouble for doing so because the regulation had to be re-written by the higher ups at the time who fucked up in the first place.

More likely somebody’s spouse just lost their consulting gig because the regulation could no longer be bought under the guise of simple incompetence.

 

[MagentaLine]

I fell into a YouTube rabbit hole of video shorts of how cruise passengers find ingenious ways to smuggle alcohol on board cruise ships so they don't have to pay for drinks at the bar.

 

[bgytr]

I fell into a YouTube rabbit hole of video shorts of how cruise passengers find ingenious ways to smuggle alcohol on board cruise ships so they don't have to pay for drinks at the bar.

Just quit drinking. Saves a lot of money, and one's health.

 

[Goodvibes]

Sometimes regulations can be poorly conceived, leading to problems. Without disclosing identifying details, a ship project I was involved with re. discharge of oil waste at sea exemplified the idiot regulators that write the rules with their heads firmly and fully stuck up their asses.
The regulation was that the amount of oil in discharge was to be so many parts per million of the total discharge. So in order to meet the regulation, all you had to do was flush more sea water into the discharge to get the ppm down to the legal limit. So the obvious solution was to draw more sea water in to dilute the discharge per the requirements, then dump it overboard.
So the same amount of oil goes overboard, but it is per the requirements. What a bunch of shit4brains.
Needless to say, a certain young engineer who pointed this out got in trouble for doing so because the regulation had to be re-written by the higher ups at the time who fucked up in the first place.

Oh I see, the regulators are the fuckwits, while the people poluting the oceans are the good smart guys?

 

[bgytr]

Oh I see, the regulators are the fuckwits, while the people poluting the oceans are the good smart guys?

Is that what I said? The regulation was fixed due to a certain someone pointing out the flaw, and hopefully mitigating the pollution. What have you done that had such an impact on oil discharge into the oceans? Whine on sailing forums?

 

[Lost in Translation]

Sacajawea is beautiful. And sitting really low in the water compared to when she first floated:

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

Is that what I said? The regulation was fixed due to a certain someone pointing out the flaw, and hopefully mitigating the pollution. What have you done that had such an impact on oil discharge into the oceans? Whine on sailing forums?

You are arguing with a troll. Just put him on ignore and improve the S/N ratio for all of us, because replying to him is perpetuating the problem.

FKT

 

[Goodvibes]

Is that what I said? The regulation was fixed due to a certain someone pointing out the flaw, and hopefully mitigating the pollution. What have you done that had such an impact on oil discharge into the oceans? Whine on sailing forums?

I have never paid money to a fucking cruise company. That's an excellent start.

And yes that's what you said.

 

[MagentaLine]

Just quit drinking. Saves a lot of money, and one's health.

Fuck that.
And fuck cruise ships. Except for those classy smaller ones that aren't for the unwashed masses.

 

[bgytr]

You are arguing with a troll. Just put him on ignore and improve the S/N ratio for all of us, because replying to him is perpetuating the problem.

FKT

Of course you are correct. Ignore put in place.

 

[SemiSalt]

Sometimes regulations can be poorly conceived, leading to problems. Without disclosing identifying details, a ship project I was involved with re. discharge of oil waste at sea exemplified the idiot regulators that write the rules with their heads firmly and fully stuck up their asses.
The regulation was that the amount of oil in discharge was to be so many parts per million of the total discharge. So in order to meet the regulation, all you had to do was flush more sea water into the discharge to get the ppm down to the legal limit. So the obvious solution was to draw more sea water in to dilute the discharge per the requirements, then dump it overboard.
So the same amount of oil goes overboard, but it is per the requirements. What a bunch of shit4brains.
Needless to say, a certain young engineer who pointed this out got in trouble for doing so because the regulation had to be re-written by the higher ups at the time who fucked up in the first place.

This was the case with the Clairol plant here in Stamford dumping stuff, mostly surfactants, into Long Island Sound. "The solution to pollution is dilution." In this case, I think it was Federal regulation. (Clairol left town a decade or so ago.)

 

[Goodvibes]

Fuck that.
And fuck cruise ships. Except for those classy smaller ones that aren't for the unwashed masses.

I have heard the same statement from several other people.

Just means that you still want to go on a cruise ship, just finding a socially acceptable excuse.

Fucking bogan.

 

[SASSAFRASS]

This was the case with the Clairol plant here in Stamford dumping stuff, mostly surfactants, into Long Island Sound. "The solution to pollution is dilution." In this case, I think it was Federal regulation. (Clairol left town a decade or so ago.)

Interesting side note on this, there is a USCG paper out there from the late 90's or early 2000's. Essentially the foreign flagged Cruise industry was put under the microscope for a multitude of bad operator practices, oily water discharge, black water etc. This was the foundation for the current maritime policies in US waters. In 20 years there have been some very good improvements. One of the last big OWS units I was involved in was light years ahead, a Alfa Level unit that could process metric tons per hr of bilge slops. Everything data logged with GPS capabilities, IE regulatory agency could come on board and stick a flash drive in and get all history and data. Not that I would thank the Cruise industry, but they were the catalyst that brought about some good changes as a whole. The idea of the solitary unit that is tested once a month on clean water went away. Many items and processes have been added to actually be compliant and make it all work, without tons of headache. Skimmer tech, which is super simple has helped a lot.

 

[Sailabout]

Sometimes regulations can be poorly conceived, leading to problems. Without disclosing identifying details, a ship project I was involved with re. discharge of oil waste at sea exemplified the idiot regulators that write the rules with their heads firmly and fully stuck up their asses.
The regulation was that the amount of oil in discharge was to be so many parts per million of the total discharge. So in order to meet the regulation, all you had to do was flush more sea water into the discharge to get the ppm down to the legal limit. So the obvious solution was to draw more sea water in to dilute the discharge per the requirements, then dump it overboard.
So the same amount of oil goes overboard, but it is per the requirements. What a bunch of shit4brains.
Needless to say, a certain young engineer who pointed this out got in trouble for doing so because the regulation had to be re-written by the higher ups at the time who fucked up in the first place.

The oil book regulations somewhat cover that as a very high percentage of the oil you take on board must be dropped ashore.
Same for the cooking oil.
USCG does enforece it and does send people to prison, ( but never the ship owners)

 

[Santanasailor]