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This e-mail exchange betwen Robin (owner of Pheonix) and John Esposito, andwas sent to all of EBYRA. The point isn't to bash Phoenix and their NA win, but to illustrate what a huge head Espo has. Enjoy:

Friends and Sailors and all the wonderful people who cared along the way to get Phoenix to yesterdays 2005 Soverel 33 National Title.

I am a humble man today. So happy with a big smile on this face. Phoenix has come full circle after THREE hard years. From a wreck to a Champion !

I just returned home a few minutes ago, Monday. Hmm, partied a bit last night. I am just a regular small business guy who tried to due something three seasons ago really tuff to accomplish. Become a better sailor and jump up into a much more competitive type sailboat as an owner/skipper. Phoenix started off with a big crash on November 7, 2002, as most of you know, just 8 days after I bought Saucy Girl from Bill. It was the worst boating day of all my 57 years. In hindsight, it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Then the hens and chickens rocks at Larchmont YC gave her a much stiffer keel at the NOODs in Sept. 2003. I never quit on her and always thought she would come back faster and better if I committed to her to the end. I did that without reservation. This beautiful Phoenix sailboat has been a handful to keep up with physically and financially, but today I am all smiles thanks to so many people I care about so much. So here goes the names and TU's to who made Phoenix happen from Sept. 2002 purchase on to today's National Title.

Bill - So much support continues to this day. Bill was such a gentleman when we ran into difficulty with the purchase of Saucy Girl after marine survey. We sat down and did not allow, as Bill said, a "deal buster" to get in the way. Bill still sails on his old girl as alternate crew and will join us the next couple of Wednesdays. What a great ship you sold me. This Soverel 33 Hull No. 70 is now on the National Championship Trophy THREE times.

Barrons Boat Yard - John Barron - Who went beyond the call of duty for me personally. You are a very decent human being who did the right thing for Phoenix. Thank you Jason Barron for dropping my pretty boat. I did not understand what you were trying to accomplish. Today I now know you were just trying to make Phoenix faster.

The Original SIX - Who put her back together over six months in that Barrons shed and made Phoenix better then before.

John Barron/Kurt Larsen/Todd Aven/Eben Hansmire/Michael Reive/Skipper

I will always be indebted to you SIX for the endless weekends and many hours you gave over SIX MONTHS. When I review the photographs along the way, I cannot believe what a great ship we all made her after so much damage.

Kurt Larsen - Without Kurt Phoenix could never have become competitive again. Kurt did a stellar job with technical support, setting up the Phoenix rigging, but also gave me the support I needed to determine if she was a total or repairable. Kurt was the "Phoenix project manager" and along with all the skippers repair/refinishing skills combined with Kurt, she is better then I ever thought she could be.

Bill Heintz/Iris Vogel - TU for taking me out on Deviation before I purchased Saucy Girl. So I could get first hand knowledge of what these great Soverel 33's were about. You two were always there for me in person or on the phone with support. And again this weekend still giving me support. Your the best. I cannot believe how good you and your very light crew sail that Deviation boat with no pros on board. Amazing !

Steve Benjamin - When I ran into technical problems during the first six months, who better to call then the original salesman. The Benj. sent me to many emails to get her back to Mark Soverel original specification. Benj. even took photos of Phoenix underway and sent them to me explaining her mast rake was wrong. TU so much Steve Benj. and Tom Castiglione for all your personal support.

Doyle Sailmakers - Mark Ploch/Paul Beaudin

UK Sailmakers - Kerry Klinger-Butch Ulmer

North Sails Group - Steve Benjamin/Tom Castiglione

You know the deal. Who ever bangs up their vehicle next gets the next sail purchase. I love to reciprocate and give business back to say TU. TU for all the great sails you all build. ALL THREE LOFTS WERE ON PHOENIX FOR THIS VICTORY.

Main Sail - UK Sailmakers Carbon Tape Drive

155% Genoa - North 3-DL /Light-Medium

145% Carbon No. 2 - UK Sailmakers

Spinnaker - Doyle Runner

VMG Spinnaker - Doyle

TU to the pro's who have come aboard and made Phoenix a much better ship.

My Great Former Captains - Who have put up with me. I have learned so much from all of you and your crews:

Sirena/IMS 43 - Steve Loeb - The best ship I have ever sailed on. The record book shows this.

Vamp/J-44 - Lenny Sitar - Five great years of sailing and knowledge gained. TU Lenny for so much.

Deviation/Soverel 33 - Iris Vogel - Learned so much at BIRW from you in 2003.

Chaika/Taylor 34 - Richie Coar and Judy Judson - Always there with an honest opinion and helping hand.

Joe Nanartowich/To many boats he has brought me to remember - TU for what you did for me. I remember it all so clearly.

WOW/J-29 - Hank Buchanan - Two years of experience and two Key West Race Weeks in 96 & 97. Most important, Hank introduced Robin to Bear Hovey who did so much this weekend.

Diogenes/J-44 - Malcolm Clark - Doc has been around forever. He was a big help to me last year and the beginning of this season. Provided good insight which I carried over to Phoenix.

Bear Hovey and John Esposito - Mama Mia did I get TWO tuff winners for the Nationals. Robin knew Phoenix had a shot with the two of you aboard. After all, look at your track records. People told me the two of you together would be tuff to live with and you would eat the Phoenix crew up. You did that a bit. If I did not have all those years with other tuff pro's, who knows what could have happened yesterday when you two were chewing us up and spitting all out. Bottom line, the crew never gave up and in the end walked away with a national title. Thanks so much for helping us accomplish an amazing Nationals. You helped complete the cycle from 2002 to this championship. That was this Skippers dream at the beginning of 2005, to be competitive at the Soverel 33 One Design events. I did not know Phoenix would have a National title today. Bear Hovey and John Esposito own a large piece of that Title. TU, TU and TU again.

The Phoenix Crewmembers/Her future - What can I say. I told you weeks ago this would be a very tuff physical and emotional weekend for all. After all, some of you are at the beginning of your LIS sailing careers. Thank you for what you do for Phoenix. Maybe after reading this email you will better understand the long road I have had with Phoenix. Being an owner/skipper has tremendous responsibilities attached to it. I have closely watched all my former skippers go through this routine. The boat is always on your mind, day and night 24/7. Starting today Phoenix goes back to her normal crewmembers and we will have so much fun at the NOODS and more. Keep the faith and lets have a great fall racing season. You guys are the best and this Skipper knows how lucky he is.

Ciao and thank you to all. I cannot express how happy I am today

Robin - Phoenix - Hull No. 70 of 90

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Robin,

Thanks again for the weekend it was at times frustrating but all in all a good time.

It is now time to call Triad Trailers 860-354-1146 ask for Mike, to get a trailer so we can defend the title next year.

I will make up a list of things to do to make the boat faster and easier to sail.

I am glad you had a good weekend.

Regards John

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Now that I have had a chance to digest Robins e-mail, and sent out a positive response, I know I disappointed a few, so for those that I disappointed here it comes.

Now I know where he got his driving skills from sailing 5 years with Lenny would do that, I will leave it like that since I like Lenny.

As far as Doc I guess the in-sight he got from sailing on Diogenes accounts for the poor starts I have witnessed on Wed. nites, bad mark rounds,and poor tactics. I am surprised at the J/44 class results and that Diogenes is never top 3 because when when he had the old one tonner he did ok maybe its because the boat rated 105 and the rest of the one tonners rate in the middle to high 90s

 

Regards John

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John,

It never seems to surprise me how you can turn something so wonderful into sh_ _ ? Mass email again just like last time. Just have to have ALL the attention? Lets see, Phoenix won the National Soverel 33 Regatta against some of the best Soverel 33 helmsman and tacticians. No need to mention their names as they are all established drivers inside the YRA of LIS. As for Robin on the helm, I must have been at least pretty dam good, or Bear and you would NEVER have had a chance to get even close to the front. Careful John as the Phoenix crew is starting to get the hate machine towards YOU.

Up yours John. How about trying to be positive? Can you do that?

Robin - Phoenix

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Robin,

My last e-mail was not to put you down you did a decent job driving, better than I thought.

As far as mentioning Bear and I with some of the pathetic sailors that you mentioned is like a slap in the face so I commented on it, which after my first positive e-mails I was getting reponses from people that I was either drinking something funny or getting soft and I cant have that.

As far as some of your crew binging the hate towards me, I have 2 words “BRING IT” My crew and I welcome it and if you think I have hate my helmsman is me times 2 so tell them to be careful what they wish for there is a lot of racing this fall where we might end up in the same division.

Love, John

 

The Winner

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had to create a new identity (or lack thereof) to post this huh? :ph34r:
Yeah it sure sucks to have a whole bunch of big yankee fucks chasing you around the east coast.

 

Kevlar Edge

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espo would be the first to agree with you

as a matter of fact i'm a dick too, as so his his whole crew

this is like yesterdays news you really should learn how to deal with it

there is no whining and crying in sailboat racing

 

BeerDidClam

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espo is a god.

why does robin keep referring to himself as "robin?"

it's sorta "BobDole" creepy...

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Irishdriver

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8 boats at a National Championship, and this guy thinks he's King? WTF? Blow me- get a real true one design that has more than "8!!!" show up-

Probably treated himself to a new "blow-up" date that night that listened, without comment of course, to how great he is.

 

Just_Me

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Just checked out the NOOD results. Look like everything Espo said was pretty accurate! This guy must really suck.

 

Lift

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This e-mail exchange betwen Robin (owner of Pheonix) and John Esposito, andwas sent to all of EBYRA.  The point isn't to bash Phoenix and their NA win, but to illustrate what a huge head Espo has.  Enjoy:

Friends and Sailors and all the wonderful people who cared along the way to get Phoenix to yesterdays 2005 Soverel 33 National Title.

I am a humble man today. So happy with a big smile on this face. Phoenix has come full circle after THREE hard years. From a wreck to a Champion !

I just returned home a few minutes ago, Monday. Hmm, partied a bit last night. I am just a regular small business guy who tried to due something three seasons ago really tuff to accomplish. Become a better sailor and jump up into a much more competitive type sailboat as an owner/skipper. Phoenix started off with a big crash on November 7, 2002, as most of you know, just 8 days after I bought Saucy Girl from Bill. It was the worst boating day of all my 57 years. In hindsight, it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Then the hens and chickens rocks at Larchmont YC gave her a much stiffer keel at the NOODs in Sept. 2003. I never quit on her and always thought she would come back faster and better if I committed to her to the end. I did that without reservation. This beautiful Phoenix sailboat has been a handful to keep up with physically and financially, but today I am all smiles thanks to so many people I care about so much. So here goes the names and TU's to who made Phoenix happen from Sept. 2002 purchase on to today's National Title.

Bill - So much support continues to this day. Bill was such a gentleman when we ran into difficulty with the purchase of Saucy Girl after marine survey. We sat down and did not allow, as Bill said, a "deal buster" to get in the way. Bill still sails on his old girl as alternate crew and will join us the next couple of Wednesdays. What a great ship you sold me. This Soverel 33 Hull No. 70 is now on the National Championship Trophy THREE times.

Barrons Boat Yard - John Barron - Who went beyond the call of duty for me personally. You are a very decent human being who did the right thing for Phoenix. Thank you Jason Barron for dropping my pretty boat. I did not understand what you were trying to accomplish. Today I now know you were just trying to make Phoenix faster.

The Original SIX - Who put her back together over six months in that Barrons shed and made Phoenix better then before.

John Barron/Kurt Larsen/Todd Aven/Eben Hansmire/Michael Reive/Skipper

I will always be indebted to you SIX for the endless weekends and many hours you gave over SIX MONTHS. When I review the photographs along the way, I cannot believe what a great ship we all made her after so much damage.

Kurt Larsen - Without Kurt Phoenix could never have become competitive again. Kurt did a stellar job with technical support, setting up the Phoenix rigging, but also gave me the support I needed to determine if she was a total or repairable. Kurt was the "Phoenix project manager" and along with all the skippers repair/refinishing skills combined with Kurt, she is better then I ever thought she could be.

Bill Heintz/Iris Vogel - TU for taking me out on Deviation before I purchased Saucy Girl. So I could get first hand knowledge of what these great Soverel 33's were about. You two were always there for me in person or on the phone with support. And again this weekend still giving me support. Your the best. I cannot believe how good you and your very light crew sail that Deviation boat with no pros on board. Amazing !

Steve Benjamin - When I ran into technical problems during the first six months, who better to call then the original salesman. The Benj. sent me to many emails to get her back to Mark Soverel original specification. Benj. even took photos of Phoenix underway and sent them to me explaining her mast rake was wrong. TU so much Steve Benj. and Tom Castiglione for all your personal support.

Doyle Sailmakers - Mark Ploch/Paul Beaudin

UK Sailmakers - Kerry Klinger-Butch Ulmer

North Sails Group - Steve Benjamin/Tom Castiglione

You know the deal. Who ever bangs up their vehicle next gets the next sail purchase. I love to reciprocate and give business back to say TU. TU for all the great sails you all build. ALL THREE LOFTS WERE ON PHOENIX FOR THIS VICTORY.

Main Sail - UK Sailmakers Carbon Tape Drive

155% Genoa - North 3-DL /Light-Medium

145% Carbon No. 2  - UK Sailmakers

Spinnaker - Doyle Runner

VMG Spinnaker - Doyle

TU to the pro's who have come aboard and made Phoenix a much better ship.

My Great Former Captains - Who have put up with me. I have learned so much from all of you and your crews:

Sirena/IMS 43 - Steve Loeb - The best ship I have ever sailed on. The record book shows this.

Vamp/J-44 - Lenny Sitar - Five great years of sailing and knowledge gained. TU Lenny for so much.

Deviation/Soverel 33 - Iris Vogel - Learned so much at BIRW from you in 2003.

Chaika/Taylor 34 - Richie Coar and Judy Judson - Always there with an honest opinion and helping hand.

Joe Nanartowich/To many boats he has brought me to remember - TU for what you did for me. I remember it all so clearly.

WOW/J-29 - Hank Buchanan - Two years of experience and two Key West Race Weeks in 96 & 97. Most important, Hank introduced Robin to Bear Hovey who did so much this weekend.

Diogenes/J-44 - Malcolm Clark - Doc has been around forever. He was a big help to me last year and the beginning of this season. Provided good insight which I carried over to Phoenix.

Bear Hovey and John Esposito - Mama Mia did I get TWO tuff winners for the Nationals. Robin knew Phoenix had a shot with the two of you aboard. After all, look at your track records. People told me the two of you together would be tuff to live with and you would eat the Phoenix crew up. You did that a bit. If I did not have all those years with other tuff pro's, who knows what could have happened yesterday when you two were chewing us up and spitting all out. Bottom line, the crew never gave up and in the end walked away with a national title. Thanks so much for helping us accomplish an amazing Nationals. You helped complete the cycle from 2002 to this championship. That was this Skippers dream at the beginning of 2005, to be competitive at the Soverel 33 One Design events. I did not know Phoenix would have a National title today. Bear Hovey and John Esposito own a large piece of that Title. TU, TU and TU again.

The Phoenix Crewmembers/Her future - What can I say. I told you weeks ago this would be a very tuff physical and emotional weekend for all. After all, some of you are at the beginning of your LIS sailing careers. Thank you for what you do for Phoenix. Maybe after reading this email you will better understand the long road I have had with Phoenix. Being an owner/skipper has tremendous responsibilities attached to it. I have closely watched all my former skippers go through this routine. The boat is always on your mind, day and night 24/7. Starting today Phoenix goes back to her normal crewmembers and we will have so much fun at the NOODS and more. Keep the faith and lets have a great fall racing season. You guys are the best and this Skipper knows how lucky he is.

Ciao and thank you to all. I cannot express how happy I am today

Robin - Phoenix - Hull No. 70 of 90

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Robin,

Thanks again for the weekend it was at times frustrating but all in all a good time.

It is now time to call Triad Trailers 860-354-1146 ask for Mike, to get a trailer so we can defend the title next year.

I will make up a list of things to do to make the boat faster and easier to sail.

I am glad you had a good weekend.

Regards John 

------------------------------------------------------------------

Now that I have had a chance to digest Robins e-mail, and sent out a positive response, I know I disappointed a few, so for those that I disappointed here it comes.

Now I know where he got his driving skills from sailing 5 years with Lenny would do that, I will leave it like that since I like Lenny.

As far as Doc I guess the in-sight he got from sailing on Diogenes accounts for the poor starts I have witnessed on Wed. nites, bad mark rounds,and poor tactics. I am surprised at the J/44 class results and that Diogenes is never top 3 because when when he had the old one tonner he did ok maybe its because the boat rated 105 and the rest of the one tonners rate in the middle to high 90s   

 

Regards John

-------------------------------------------------------------------

John,

It never seems to surprise me how you can turn something so wonderful into sh_ _ ? Mass email again just like last time. Just have to have ALL the attention? Lets see, Phoenix won the National Soverel 33 Regatta against some of the best Soverel 33 helmsman and tacticians. No need to mention their names as they are all established drivers inside the YRA of LIS. As for Robin on the helm, I must have been at least pretty dam good, or Bear and you would NEVER have had a chance to get even close to the front. Careful John as the Phoenix crew is starting to get the hate machine towards YOU.

Up yours John.  How about trying to be positive? Can you do that?

Robin - Phoenix

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Robin,

My last e-mail was not to put you down you did a decent job driving, better than I thought.

As far as mentioning Bear and I with some of the pathetic sailors that you mentioned is like a slap in the face so I commented on it, which after my first positive e-mails I was getting reponses from people that I was either drinking something funny or getting soft and I cant have that.

As far as some of your crew binging the hate towards me, I have 2 words “BRING IT”  My  crew and I welcome it and if you think I have hate my helmsman is me times 2 so tell them to be careful what they wish for there is a lot of racing this fall where we might end up in the same division.

Love, John   
Don't know who you are or what EBYRA is or why anyone cares, but I point out that your post is not pasted, which makes it highly suspect. Was it you who made bold some of the text? Better luck next time with the rabble-rousing.

 

MikeR

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Espo, You are my hero. Im sure Espo's comments about the hacks that be are only to inspire them to become better sailors.
Oh BTW I wouldn't wanna piss Espo off if I were you. I drove through the Pine Barrons this past weekend and it was not a place where I would want to be burried.
How was your cell phone reception?.... and was someone talking about Interior Decorators and deceased Hungarians?

Cheers,

MikeR

 
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