Etchells Worlds

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$2000 for 4 up crew.

They are doing a nice job of trying to make it a class for fat old men with heeps of coin.

Shame as it is the most competive One design keel boat in the world where you get to race against some of the biggest legends of our sport, past and present.

 

some dude

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They are doing a nice job of trying to make it a class for fat old men with heeps of coin.
already is. as you correcty point out, you're sailing against the best. you think it's a better value to pay for a round of golf with Tiger Woods or a day of tennis with Rafael Nadal? $500 per person for a week of sailing fantasy camp ain't bad.

 

DoRag

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$2000 for 4 up crew.

They are doing a nice job of trying to make it a class for fat old men with heeps of coin.

Shame as it is the most competive One design keel boat in the world where you get to race against some of the biggest legends of our sport, past and present.

Maybe you need to work harder and perhaps you will get a raise.

 

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The economy is in the dump, sailboats take forever to sell, fuel for travelling is taking its toll on a lot of classes. Entry fees are getting out of line. There is a difference between paying to be in tiger's 4some and playing against him. That argument doesn't hold up.

 

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Two functions at least. Salvation Army hostel has stuff for free.

 

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An Etchells Worlds would expect expertly run racing (as well as the shore side of the event). That means professional race officers, probably professional event managers, excellent facilities, plenty of mark boats, professional protest committee etc. This all costs money - no doubt defrayed somewhat by a sponsor or 2, but on other threads a lot of people bemoan over-reliance on sponsors (look at Geelong Week).

In the scheme of things, $2000 is small change compared to what these guys spend on boats, sails and the best of everything else.

A budding corinthian team might struggle with that sort of entry fee, but unfortunately that's not the target audience.

 

Wombat 867

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Well it is $250 entry fee for the A Class Nationals, and think Tiger Woods equals are definatly there. And dont go on about the tow out to the start, this should be a cost the club has to cover if they want to host the event.

They are doing a nice job of trying to make it a class for fat old men with heeps of coin.
already is. as you correcty point out, you're sailing against the best. you think it's a better value to pay for a round of golf with Tiger Woods or a day of tennis with Rafael Nadal? $500 per person for a week of sailing fantasy camp ain't bad.
 

johnnysaint

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Well it is $250 entry fee for the A Class Nationals, and think Tiger Woods equals are definatly there. And dont go on about the tow out to the start, this should be a cost the club has to cover if they want to host the event.

They are doing a nice job of trying to make it a class for fat old men with heeps of coin.
already is. as you correcty point out, you're sailing against the best. you think it's a better value to pay for a round of golf with Tiger Woods or a day of tennis with Rafael Nadal? $500 per person for a week of sailing fantasy camp ain't bad.
$250. No crew, No crane in or out. What are you so famous for that the club should pay you an attendance fee?

 

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$2000 for 4 up crew.

They are doing a nice job of trying to make it a class for fat old men with heeps of coin.

Shame as it is the most competive One design keel boat in the world where you get to race against some of the biggest legends of our sport, past and present.
Are you just having a whinge because you didn't qualify, as anyone would know the costs of a WORLD'S Campaign far outweigh $2K in such a class as that. If you can't justify that small cost to rub shoulders and boats with the worlds best then you don't deserve to be there.

 

dogwatch

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An Etchells Worlds would expect expertly run racing (as well as the shore side of the event). That means professional race officers, probably professional event managers, excellent facilities, plenty of mark boats, professional protest committee etc. This all costs money - no doubt defrayed somewhat by a sponsor or 2, but on other threads a lot of people bemoan over-reliance on sponsors (look at Geelong Week).
Last year my club ran a World Championship for a 100+ keelboat fleet for a hell of a lot less than $2000 and we still turned a profit. No we didn't use professional race officers, we don't need to as we have club members used to running high-level events but even if you did, that's not actually a large expense. Excellent facilities - check, Plenty of mark boats - check. Professional protest committee - well that's a given. Doesn't add up to anything like $2000.

 
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Recidivist

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An Etchells Worlds would expect expertly run racing (as well as the shore side of the event). That means professional race officers, probably professional event managers, excellent facilities, plenty of mark boats, professional protest committee etc. This all costs money - no doubt defrayed somewhat by a sponsor or 2, but on other threads a lot of people bemoan over-reliance on sponsors (look at Geelong Week).
Last year my club ran a World Championship for a 100+ keelboat fleet for a hell of a lot less than $2000 and we still turned a profit. No we didn't use professional race officers, we don't need to as we have club members used to running high-level events but even if you did, that's not actually a large expense. Excellent facilities - check, Plenty of mark boats - check. Professional protest committee - well that's a given. Doesn't add up to anything like $2000.
South coast UK - HISC?

 
tow out....only way to go from there
So I'm just saying but in Santa Cruz you can go from trailer to kick ass venue after a dozen tacks at most out of the harbor. Probably couldn't fit all the fat etchell asses in the clubhouse at one time though there's a nice deck.

 
guy in SD who had "hopes" to win the EW's in DAGO

said it cost him $100,000 upkeep & stuff to race the boat per each year

that did Not include price of the boat (to buy)

& the boat has few sails, no bottom paint, no head, no tunes, no slip fees, no BBQ & no motor
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WTF is $2,000 this way or that way ???

hate to think what those 1 - 2 - 3 place boats spent

they could put on the event for Free but it just wouldn't be the same (even if it was the same)
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savoir

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An Etchells Worlds would expect expertly run racing (as well as the shore side of the event). That means professional race officers, probably professional event managers, excellent facilities, plenty of mark boats, professional protest committee etc. This all costs money - no doubt defrayed somewhat by a sponsor or 2, but on other threads a lot of people bemoan over-reliance on sponsors (look at Geelong Week).
Last year my club ran a World Championship for a 100+ keelboat fleet for a hell of a lot less than $2000 and we still turned a profit. No we didn't use professional race officers, we don't need to as we have club members used to running high-level events but even if you did, that's not actually a large expense. Excellent facilities - check, Plenty of mark boats - check. Professional protest committee - well that's a given. Doesn't add up to anything like $2000.

Don't blame the club - blame the class.

They want professional starters $

They want offshore courses $$

They want international jury $$$

They want tow boats $$$$

It all adds up. There will be a long motor to the course for all the volunteer committee boats who will want their fuel paid for. RSYS to the course by motor boat would be about 50 - 70 minutes. It's around 5 - 7 miles depending on breeze. Tow boats will be needed in any breeze under 10 knots or so.

With an all amateur, all inshore regatta the club could probably do it for less than half . . . . but then the competitors would start whining.

 
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